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Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

Don't wear clothes.

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Rysithusiku
Nov 10, 2013

Witness the assless man and despair!
All futures point to a world of filled holes.

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

Don't wear clothes.

Beautiful post/av

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

om nom nom posted:

Was about to post this. Goodwill makes lots of money off of your donations, and while it hires employees with disabilities, it uses a law (Special Wage Certificate Program) from 1938 that allows them to pay them less than minimum wage. They give the disabled worker a "productivity test" and decide what they are worth, I've read that some are paid as low at $0.22/hr, although that was in 2011 so I don't know what the current numbers are like.

Everyone who hires disabled workers (where "disabled" means "this actually impairs his productivity*, not "lost a leg in the war and has a prosthetic limb that doesn't affect his ability to do his job) does this. It's allowed by Federal law and is specifically to incent businesses to hire disabled workers:

https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs39.pdf

Flyball
Apr 17, 2003

A FUCKIN CANARY!! posted:

Yeah, I tried using fabric softener just to see what it actually did and it basically dissolved all of the seams. Entire sleeves just falling off shirts as I lifted them out.

I hate the way it makes clothes feel anyway, it's like they're coated in an invisible layer of grease.

And also wax.

If you don't use a dryer at all, the clothes last much, much longer.

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Flyball posted:

And also wax.

If you don't use a dryer at all, the clothes last much, much longer.

I hang my clothes up outside on a clothesline. I have a dryer, but I hardly ever use it. Hell, the sun is free.

mustard_tiger
Nov 8, 2010

Randaconda posted:

I hang my clothes up outside on a clothesline. I have a dryer, but I hardly ever use it. Hell, the sun is free.

what do you do in the winter?

Randaconda
Jul 3, 2014

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

mustard_tiger posted:

what do you do in the winter?

I live in Florida.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

Phanatic posted:

Everyone who hires disabled workers (where "disabled" means "this actually impairs his productivity*, not "lost a leg in the war and has a prosthetic limb that doesn't affect his ability to do his job) does this. It's allowed by Federal law and is specifically to incent businesses to hire disabled workers:

https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs39.pdf

Yeah and it sucks.

The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy

Randaconda posted:

I live in Florida.

Good plan. Where do you go in summer? :v:

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

As I mentioned it allows them to keep social security and Medicare.

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

Don't wear clothes.

Outside of work I usually don't ;)

Ziv Zulander
Mar 24, 2017

ZZ for short


Glazier posted:

Outside of work I usually don't ;)

Lifehack: start your new career as a prostitute, never wear clothing again

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Phanatic posted:

Everyone who hires disabled workers (where "disabled" means "this actually impairs his productivity*, not "lost a leg in the war and has a prosthetic limb that doesn't affect his ability to do his job) does this. It's allowed by Federal law and is specifically to incent businesses to hire disabled workers:

https://www.dol.gov/whd/regs/compliance/whdfs39.pdf

Yeah because people who have a significant disability don't need money or anything

Phanatic
Mar 13, 2007

Please don't forget that I am an extremely racist idiot who also has terrible opinions about the Culture series.

Improbable Lobster posted:

Yeah because people who have a significant disability don't need money or anything

Note that SSDI is a thing and is not based on income. If someone is so disabled they can’t even generate minimum-wage levels of productivity, then nobody will hire that person at all if he has to pay them that, because he’d literally be losing money to do it.

Like, do you just want such unfortunate people to be literally unemployable? To have SSDI as their sole source of income? I don’t see how Goodwill is being a bad guy for doing this (although maybe they’re bad guys for other reasons).

SubponticatePoster
Aug 9, 2004

Every day takes figurin' out all over again how to fuckin' live.
Slippery Tilde

Phanatic posted:

Note that SSDI SSI is a thing and is not based on income.
SSDI is the one you have to pay into. SSI is for people who never worked, or who worked so little they didn't contribute to the fund.

anchorpunch
Mar 30, 2006

Phanatic posted:

Note that SSDI is a thing and is not based on income. If someone is so disabled they can’t even generate minimum-wage levels of productivity, then nobody will hire that person at all if he has to pay them that, because he’d literally be losing money to do it.

Like, do you just want such unfortunate people to be literally unemployable? To have SSDI as their sole source of income? I don’t see how Goodwill is being a bad guy for doing this (although maybe they’re bad guys for other reasons).

I really appreciate this thing you do, where you are calling bullshit and post facts at people who are talking out of their asses.

Zipperelli.
Apr 3, 2011



Nap Ghost
So instead of just flat-out not hiring someone who is otherwise unemployable, they're not only hiring them, but paying them (regardless of how much or how little) as well? Sounds like a good idea to me. :shrug:

Loomer
Dec 19, 2007

A Very Special Hell
It can be good or it can be bad. You need good oversight and care arrangements or it can get real exploitative and ugly quick, because the employees making less than minimum usually aren't just 'oh, john has a bad back or stu's a little slow, pay him 60 cents a day' - it's 'John has extremely significant autism and will spend hours at a time sorting the same exact box of books before they go on the shelf' and similarly serious impairments. So on one hand, they absolutely aren't putting in the same amount of productive work as everyone else, but they already have income assistance to compensate, and on the other, they're also a specially vulnerable class.

It's that intersection that leads to a system designed to help John go out and get work and maybe, over time, acclimate to it and the people there sometimes becoming defacto sweatshop labour.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Medicare is 200x more important than the wages (which are also important) and if goodwill or whomever paid them minimum wage they may lose their Medicare.

Because if you earn a certain amount of money you are no longer disabled under the SSA*

The best answer would of course be UHC and high minimum wages but lol this isn't Europe.

* lots of exceptions

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit
OF course it's not like it's a bitch and a half to get SSDI or anything, even with a lawyer

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Ssi is straightforward. Ssdi can be a problem if you get a bad administrative law judge.

But that is always the ultimate life hack: get a lawyer .

sassassin
Apr 3, 2010

by Azathoth
Disableds should move to a civilised country instead.

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

euphronius posted:

The best answer would of course be UHC and high minimum wages but lol this isn't Europe

so why don’t we try to get that stuff rather than giving up and accepting poo poo for marginalized people will be hosed up forever?

Iron Crowned
May 6, 2003

by Hand Knit

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

so why don’t we try to get that stuff rather than giving up and accepting poo poo for marginalized people will be hosed up forever?

bootstraps!

Gynocentric Regime
Jun 9, 2010

by Cyrano4747

Ziv Zulander posted:

Lifehack: start your new career as a prostitute, never wear clothing again

That could be fun, I do have a neighbor who is a porn star :)

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

ah whoops, just noticed what thread I’m in.

Ornamental Dingbat
Feb 26, 2007

euphronius posted:

Ssi is straightforward. Ssdi can be a problem if you get a bad administrative law judge.

But that is always the ultimate life hack: get a lawyer .

My wife suffers from an autoimmune disorder that attacks her muscular connective tissue, is going through this process now, and just got rejected because the judge found her able to work based off of records from when she initially entered her first claim 2 years ago- since then her condition has deteriorated and she's lost most of the use of her right arm, can't sit for more than 2 hours, can't stand for more than an hour, and can't lift more than 30 lbs. We received the certified letter from her lawyer stating that they would be dropping our case last night.

Our best bet is to scrap the current claim and start a new one, throwing out all chance of back pay for the last 2 years- the new process should take 18-24 months to get an answer.

Luckily, we're in a situation where I make enough to support the family, but we are astounded by the length and difficulty of this process, and can't imagine where we'd be if we were financially dependent on it.

Lifehack content:
My wife's crack-addict cousin is also going through the same process of claiming long-term disability, and offered the sage advice to just "lie and say you have an anxiety disorder and back problems- that's what I'm doing!"

aardvaard
Mar 4, 2013

you belong in the bog of eternal stench

here's an idea: when your company is called "goodwill" and your stated mission is to help the unfortunate, maybe one way you could go about doing that is by paying disabled people minimum wage even if they're not as productive as non-disabled people. you know, because they need that money to survive.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

As has been explained paying them minimum wage would drastically cut their income and healthcare.

aardvaard
Mar 4, 2013

you belong in the bog of eternal stench

Stop me if I've got something wrong here, but the maximum you can make as an individual under SSI before you're disqualified is $735 a month. Goodwill has been paying some disabled employees less than $0.10/hr. Some as little as $0.04/hr. If you're working full-time (forty hours a week), that's about 160 hours a month - so they could be paying you $4.50 an hour before you hit that limit. And I'm guessing a lot of disabled people don't work full-time at Goodwill.

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

I pmed you to stop the derail

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

obvi the solution is to reform the social safety net so everyone can live the full and dignified life that they deserve, rather than being hemmed in at every turn by procedures and means-testing that keep marginalized and poor people stuck as second- and third- place citizens

lifehack: be born rich in a capitalist country. everything will be so easy!



can someone please explain what this is showing

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Higgy
Jul 6, 2005



Grimey Drawer
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Phone posting if the .gifvs don’t show right. Life hack: phone post! Post with your phone to make dumb forum mistakes! #hackedlyf

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

ChickenOfTomorrow posted:

can someone please explain what this is showing



One shoe at a time is half-assedly dried because it's being hung in place by the bootlace.

Hirayuki
Mar 28, 2010


I discovered after buying our new dryer that the model a half-step up came with a drying table that fit into the dryer and a mode that turned off the tumble so you could dry things flat in various temperatures of dryer air. I would have liked that, dammit.

Warbird
May 23, 2012

America's Favorite Dumbass

Our LG has that shelf thing. It’s pretty nice, don’t know about the non tumble setting though.

Piell
Sep 3, 2006

Grey Worm's Ken doll-like groin throbbed with the anticipatory pleasure that only a slightly warm and moist piece of lemoncake could offer


Young Orc
Lifehack: want to dry your shoes fast? Just throw them in the oven!

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Lifehack: throw them in the oven!

Saint Freak
Apr 16, 2007

Regretting is an insult to oneself
Buglord
Just microwave your shoes like normal people

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SpacePig
Apr 4, 2007

Hold that pose.
I've gotta get something.
I just hang mine on the doorknobs to my bathroom, and also own more than one pair of sneakers.

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