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OJ MIST 2 THE DICK
Sep 11, 2008

Anytime I need to see your face I just close my eyes
And I am taken to a place
Where your crystal minds and magenta feelings
Take up shelter in the base of my spine
Sweet like a chica cherry cola

-Cheap Trick

Nap Ghost

the true draken souls begins here

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Gullwhacker
Aug 11, 2007
I considered taking the mask.

Robbing Emil felt too wrong.

Tunicate
May 15, 2012

I assume he doesn't react to you wearing it?

Billzasilver
Nov 8, 2016

I lift my drink and sing a song

for who knows if life is short or long?


Man's life is like the morning dew

past days many, future days few

Jade Rider posted:

I might be a bit slow but I just realized Emil's shop jingle is a remixed version of this.

Hahaha, so that’s what those mysterious moon language words really mean.

Asimo
Sep 23, 2007


:tif:

gutterdaughter
Oct 21, 2010

keep yr head up, problem girl

Jade Rider posted:

I might be a bit slow but I just realized Emil's shop jingle is a remixed version of this.

This was actually a Problem when going back to read Id's Nier Gestalt LP. Kainé and Emil were trying to have a touching dramatic scene outside the mansion. And suddenly the weird pseudorussianlatin starts up. And all my brain can hear is o/' ~my stuuuuuuuffff's so cheeeeaaaaap~ o/'

Totally killed the moment.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.

Tunicate posted:

I assume he doesn't react to you wearing it?

I think Nines is wearing it in that screenshot.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Leraika posted:

I think Nines is wearing it in that screenshot.

Yep, 9S is wearing it in that shot where he's talking to Emil after.

chiasaur11
Oct 22, 2012



placid saviour posted:

How do people keep being this loving stupid?

They used to say there were two things that were infinite. The universe, and human stupidity.

As we've found the universe has limits, stupidity has had to take up the slack.

Bufuman
Jun 15, 2013

Sleep in the briefing room.
At your own peril.
I wonder how many people saw that room full of corpses and just Nope!'d the gently caress out of there. I was sorely tempted myself, but curiosity got the better of me (that fucker always gets me into trouble).

chiasaur11 posted:

They used to say there were two things that were infinite. The universe, and human stupidity.

As we've found the universe has limits, stupidity has had to take up the slack.

Three things actually. Asshatery is also a constant. People tend to forget that one because the line between dumbass and jackass tends to be pretty blurry.

Darth TNT
Sep 20, 2013
So no fights with Emil? I wanted to see if we could hack him. :)

Shei-kun
Dec 2, 2011

Screw you, physics!
I could never take the mask.

gently caress 100% completion, I'll cause towns to be slaughtered, but I won't steal from the Top Boy.

Iretep
Nov 10, 2009
I mostly didnt steal the mask because i was afraid Emil would kill me.

OmegaCake
May 5, 2010

Let's say you and I go back to my room and jack in.

Iretep posted:

I mostly didnt steal the mask because i was afraid Emil would kill me.
I stole the mask because I hoped Emil would kill me.

After everything that happened with 9S I figured it would be the best way for him to die.

i am tim!
Jan 5, 2005

God damn it, where are my ant keys?! I'm gonna miss my flight!
I took the mask on 9S because he totally seems the type to steal from someone because he’s a creepy, stalker-type fan.

Elkyrie
Mar 18, 2014
I took it because I figured I could show it to him later and be like "hey, can I have this friendo? there's a ton of em anyways"

and then Emil complained about thieves and I never got the chance to explain so :smith:

...!
Oct 5, 2003

I SHOULD KEEP MY DUMB MOUTH SHUT INSTEAD OF SPEWING HORSESHIT ABOUT THE ORBITAL MECHANICS OF THE JAMES WEBB SPACE TELESCOPE.

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME WHAT A LAGRANGE POINT IS?
What if... the Emil that 2B found is still rolling around somewhere and the "Emil" driving the truck around is actually an android who fastened an Emil mask to the front of the truck and is using a voice modulator? If people keep stealing his masks, eventually he won't be able to keep the scam going!

Arianya
Nov 3, 2009

...! posted:

What if... the Emil that 2B found is still rolling around somewhere and the "Emil" driving the truck around is actually an android who fastened an Emil mask to the front of the truck and is using a voice modulator? If people keep stealing his masks, eventually he won't be able to keep the scam going!

We've clearly seen that mask can only be worn in an askew manner which doesn't hide the face, c'mon :colbert:

The Dark Id
Aug 13, 2005

Why
you
know
I
LOVE
THIS SHIT !!!!
[citation needed]
Episode CXLIII: Naughty Boy



So who is ready to be a dick to Emil for no reason other than the true completionist’s sociopathic tendencies and utter lack of morals?



Well guess what? That’s exactly what we’re going to have to go do now. Emil mentioned he had burglars and had to lock up his valuables in a chest. Hence why 9S, our resident safe cracker android, is needed for this excursion. Thanks to that elevator shortcut we activated, we can pop straight down to the bottom level of these caves and quickly jog over to Emil’s House.



...Just carefully tiptoe past the increasingly worrying pile of android corpses.


Music: Emil ~ Sacrifice






Sure enough, a sealed chest has been placed in Emil’s House. Pod 153 has given up on dissuading 9S from his thievery. It’s aware of the dark path of completionism and self-destruction he is walking and that there is no way to stop him. No one stops. So it’s just a quick and dirty hack and we pilfer collect...







An Emil Head accessory. This is almost certainly just a hollowed out dead Emil clone 9S has decided to stick on his head like the disrespectful little poo poo he is...

Music: ENDS



That’s all there was locked away in Emil’s pad. I hope you’re happy, 9S. Now let’s just skip on past the android killing field and head back to the sur—



Gah! This isn’t what it looks like... OK... Maybe it is exactly what it looks like. But...





<pops a sick wheelie and barrels straight for 9S>


Music: The Sound of the End (Vocal)




Time for one of the two superbosses in the core game of NieR: Automata – Emil, Upset Top Boy. It wasn’t enough to go steal from him once. You had to go and double dip and now it’s time to face the consequences.





So if you were wondering why there are more android corpses here than almost any other part of the game, it’s that Emil is a Level 99 enemy and is NOT loving about. It’s hard to notice in battle, but via the magic of screenshots we can see Emil has changed his store flag and truck decal to reflect he is now pissed at our android’s thievery.





Emil’s primary means of attack is tearing across the room either aiming directly for 9S or dropping scores of bouncing Emil heads. These are functionally identical to the bouncy energy orbs the machine lifeform tanks drop just lasting WAY longer and in enclosed space. Except they’re Emil heads. Also...



...they hurt! Even at Level 99, Emil heads will take off a fifth to a quarter of 9S’s HP on contact. Getting rammed by Emil can easily take off a third of our health bar. And again, we are at the level cap. If you come fighting Emil even ten levels lower... well... there’s a good reason why there’s dozens of dead player corpses in this room.



Everyone once in a while Emil’s car will run out of steam and spark for a while. This is a good time to lay on some damage safely. In fact, it's very important to beat the poo poo out of Emil during these times because he can potentially unleash a gigantic AOE attack that can potentially one-shot even a Level 99 character. Though it's fairly rare. That said, we can't be too close while attacking, because once he’s up and running again Emil will pop a few donuts before charging around the room again. If you’re wondering, yes Emil can be hacked. Though he is VERY resistant to hacking and it takes a good 10+ seconds to initiate a single hack.



Once Emil drops to 50% HP, he enters the second phase of the fight. Which... just makes him go faster. But it does get a music change!


New Music: Emil's Shop Theme (DEATH)
(You should listen to this. Yes, it’s supposed to sound like that.)





That’s not to say Emil is without any new tricks in phase 2. In fact, he has one extremely powerful attack left at his disposal.





A room sweeping doom laser, naturally. Emil was always good with doom lasers. Remember that one time he nuked the Aerie? Good times. Getting hit with this laser will take off 35-50% HP on 9S at our currently levels. Anything less and it will straight up one shot him. I got real lucky during this fight and Emil was technically on higher geometry at the edge of the room so the laser swung harmlessly over 9S’s head.

Anyway, other the optic blast, that’s about it to the Emil boss fight. Once he’s defeated...



Well, go ahead and use this room for whatever you like. I don’t mind. :smith:


Music: Blissful Death




Our reward for stealing from Emil and then beating him up like a huge piece of poo poo is the final weapon in NieR: Automata – Emil Heads!



Emil Heads are combat bracers so 9S will be lobbing around Emil heads while A2/2B will just stuff hollowed out Emil Heads as gloves to punch machines to death. That’s one way to do it... Basic upgrades grant Stun Up making enemies easier to stagger... so functionally useless since almost everything is resistant as hell/immune to staggering at this point. At maximum level, Emil Heads gain Insanity which makes them talk every time they’re used to attack! O... K...?

Hey there!
Thanks, friendo!
Take this!
Step aside please, coming through!
Emil BEAM!
Emil BLAST!

Alright then... Well, let’s take a look at the very final weapon story to date in a Drakenier game...

Emil Heads posted:



[09/02/12422] I confirmed that the machine lifeforms released
by the aliens have reconstructed their network. I've started to
see units with gravity-controlling capabilities again as well.

[10/15/12422] I was spawned about a week ago, so I don't have
clear recollections of anything before that. Say, I wonder where
the Original disappeared to all those millennia ago...

[12/14/12422] I confirmed that the 25th one born after me has
stopped his biological activity. Although we're technically
immortal - since we can respawn indefinitely and all - we're still
not exempt from death.

[01/19/12423] Our memories are only copies, so they're pretty
vague. That android wearing black... I have the feeling I've met
her before. She had a complicated look on her face, but I can't
remember anything...



So a reminder. NieR: Automata takes place in 11945 AD. This weapon story’s date give is 477-8 years in the future from now. Err... make of all that what you will... In any case, that’s 100% weapon collection. Now it’s just a matter of upgrading ‘em all to max to unlock the final sidequest. But that’s for another day...



So err... no hard feelings... Right, Emil? E-Emil...? Not feeling very chatty, huh? That’s understandable. Err...



We will just... go now... Take it easy, Emil. Thanks for the err... Emils...






Video: Emil Boss Battle
(You should probably watch this.)





Emil Concept Art – Well... Top Boy could have been way more horrifying in his sequel appearance...

The Dark Id fucked around with this message at 19:50 on Jan 17, 2018

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
Also I have no idea the exact mechanics surrounding it, but Emil also has an instant death attack that happens in the second half of the fight.

Leraika
Jun 14, 2015

Luckily, I *did* save your old avatar. Fucked around and found out indeed.
Emil :(

Poor boy just wants to scoot around and sell people things.

Augus
Mar 9, 2015


To be honest, I'm surprised it took us four whole Yoko Taro games to get to "Grafting insane talking heads to your arms and punching people to death with them"

Qrr
Aug 14, 2015


Hunt11 posted:

Also I have no idea the exact mechanics surrounding it, but Emil also has an instant death attack that happens in the second half of the fight.

I let it go off in case it gave a bad ending.

Nope! It just kills you.

EclecticTastes
Sep 17, 2012

"Most plans are critically flawed by their own logic. A failure at any step will ruin everything after it. That's just basic cause and effect. It's easy for a good plan to fall apart. Therefore, a plan that has no attachment to logic cannot be stopped."
So Emil's most powerful attack is against the player, then. Seriously, that audio distortion physically hurt.

Geemer
Nov 4, 2010



This fight is a lot easier with a weapon, or the chip, that makes bullets explode if you hit them. Blows those bouncing Emil heads right up. Still takes forever to do it at level 69 though... I didn't know about the bunny in my first playthrough and am apparently a huge idiot masochist.

It's also one of the few fights (or the only?) that has an extra voice clip if you lose and then come back to grab your corpse/for a rematch.

claw game handjob
Mar 27, 2007

pinch pinch scrape pinch
ow ow fuck it's caught
i'm bleeding
JESUS TURN IT OFF
WHY ARE YOU STILL SMILING
As far as I can tell, there is also one lingering effect from this fight*, in that Emil no longer adds his chipper signoffs and conversation to any visits to his store. He's just silent when dealing with you.

Doing this boss was where I gave up on 100% on my first run because that was a punch in the gut. I just beelined for the end.

* Unless it was a bug or a looooong string of coincidence.

Danaru
Jun 5, 2012

何 ??

END ME SCOOB posted:

As far as I can tell, there is also one lingering effect from this fight*, in that Emil no longer adds his chipper signoffs and conversation to any visits to his store. He's just silent when dealing with you.

Doing this boss was where I gave up on 100% on my first run because that was a punch in the gut. I just beelined for the end.

* Unless it was a bug or a looooong string of coincidence.

:saddowns: Oh no

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic
DRAKENGARD!
:smith:
Maybe my hate-on for 9S makes a little more sense now, eh?

Stephen9001
Oct 28, 2013
Yeah, wasn't hard to see that fight coming.

I can have moments of... eccentricity and sometimes be quite curious about things. Please forgive me if I do something foolish or rude.

Bruceski
Aug 21, 2007

The tools of a hero mean nothing without a solid core.

I for one am disappointed that the fight music wasn't some epic battle version of his song.

Mad Surge
Oct 5, 2010


Fought him at level 85/86, I only survived thanks to massive healing items... those bouncing Emil headballs hurt and are hard to predict! Also the massive amount of corpses might trip you a few times, or you might interact with them by accident

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
This fight taught me hacking damage does get scaled by level, since in the 60s even hacking him did next to nothing. So I didn't bother.

I want a video of the emil heads talking at max level, that sounds great.

Hunt11
Jul 24, 2013

Grimey Drawer
I fought him at level 80-something during route B and I just about managed to handle the fight.

Verant
Oct 20, 2012

Go on an adventure ordained by fate?
-->Okay.
-->Eh.
This is one of the fights I didn't do on my first file, and hearing Emil sound so down in the dumps afterwards makes me wonder whether or not I should. I don't wanna make the Best Boy™ sad!

Jen X
Sep 29, 2014

To bring light to the darkness, whether that darkness be ignorance, injustice, apathy, or stagnation.
I was spoiled that you fought emil in this game way back before I even played it. I thought, "oh no, he's the final boss, right? He's evil?"

I then stole his poo poo, and just cracked up when the distorted store theme started playing, because of goddamn course. Of course he's a goofy superboss and not evil or whatever.

Graceful Graveler
May 18, 2009
This, uh, is my first time seeing that concept art. Thanks, whoever made sure we got the not-nightmare inducing design. :stare:

My trips into this cave were the first time I discovered player bodies you revive have a chance of turning against you, and lucky me, that seemed to happen with particularly high-level ones. Fun times.

Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

Graceful Graveler posted:

This, uh, is my first time seeing that concept art. Thanks, whoever made sure we got the not-nightmare inducing design. :stare:

My trips into this cave were the first time I discovered player bodies you revive have a chance of turning against you, and lucky me, that seemed to happen with particularly high-level ones. Fun times.

I'm pretty sure that after the whole 'Entirety Of YorHa gets Logic Bomb'd' sequence, it's much more likely that they'll turn against you. I never had one not attack me after that sequence.

FeyerbrandX
Oct 9, 2012

So on one hand, yay there's more Top Boys.

On the other hand, they die :smith:

pulsor93
Mar 3, 2015
So, maybe I'm sounding like an idiot and am missing something obvious, but did anyone try resurrecting as many of the corpses as possible before starting the fight and then have them zerg rush Emil/throw them at Emil to use as human - er, android shields?

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Malachite_Dragon
Mar 31, 2010

Weaving Merry Christmas magic

pulsor93 posted:

So, maybe I'm sounding like an idiot and am missing something obvious, but did anyone try resurrecting as many of the corpses as possible before starting the fight and then have them zerg rush Emil/throw them at Emil to use as human - er, android shields?

You can only have one android 'helper' at a time, iirc. Or maybe it was just bad timing on my part, but every time I tried to make more than one, the first one would explode as the second one was standing up.

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