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The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
or just like, don't


Loken's pretty boring after the first few books anyways

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Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

PantsOptional posted:

You want the audiobook Garro: Legion of One.

Oh wow. The plot summary of that makes it sound really, really dumb.

PantsOptional
Dec 27, 2012

All I wanna do is make you bounce

Guy Goodbody posted:

Oh wow. The plot summary of that makes it sound really, really dumb.

Yeah, all you really need is that he survived and has the universe’s worst case of PTSD.

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Finished Devastation of Baal recently. The Tyranid war part kinda ground on and on after a while, but I have to say I liked the Lictor sections, Dante parts and the segment at the end where they dourly discuss how the Primaris are going to replace the old guard.

Red Tithe was also a nice read.

Now just to wait for the next few months of releases before ordering them all and plowing through them in one go.

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.

PantsOptional posted:

You want the audiobook Garro: Legion of One.
I believe that story, along with a few others is in the book Garro.

As I understand it, that book compiled a bunch of audio dramas and short stories into one more or less cohesive book.
It's hardly the worst book in the HH series.

Moose-Alini
Sep 11, 2001

Not always so
I'm really looking forward to new post-rift books. I didn't even know about Baal until a few weeks ago. Where do people get their news of new good books?

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
I'm reading through Devastation of Baal right now and honestly it's pretty boring.

That's mostly because it's a novel where the entirety of the case is space marines and is boring as poo poo as a result. The Lictor (and Dante to a lesser extent) sections shined in comparison if only because they actually felt like they had some character. Leaving aside the incredible achievement of making a loving Lictor more engaging than the entirety of the cast, it really goes to show that, at least for me, I think non-space marine viewpoints and major characters are pretty essential. It allows more of a connection with the characters and events happening, and also lets the space marines' weirdness really come out to play.


My review of Devastation of Baal is that it's pretty much "BLOOD/DUTY/HONOR" 24/7. Unless the viewpoint is from Dante in which case it's "ANGST/DUTY/BLOOD/HONOR" instead.

The Bolter porn is fine and all I guess, but even that's super dreary when you just don't give a poo poo about any of the characters.

The Iron Rose fucked around with this message at 05:27 on Jan 17, 2018

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008

The Iron Rose posted:

I'm reading through Devastation of Baal right now and honestly it's pretty boring.

That's mostly because it's a novel where the entirety of the case is space marines and is boring as poo poo as a result. The Lictor (and Dante to a lesser extent) sections shined in comparison if only because they actually felt like they had some character. Leaving aside the incredible achievement of making a loving Lictor more engaging than the entirety of the cast, it really goes to show that, at least for me, I think non-space marine viewpoints and major characters are pretty essential. It allows more of a connection with the characters and events happening, and also lets the space marines' weirdness really come out to play.


My review of Devastation of Baal is that it's pretty much "BLOOD/DUTY/HONOR" 24/7. Unless the viewpoint is from Dante in which case it's "ANGST/DUTY/BLOOD/HONOR" instead.

The Bolter porn is fine and all I guess, but even that's super dreary when you just don't give a poo poo about any of the characters.

Just finished it and I agree with everything

Weissritter
Jun 14, 2012

I think that is why I like Watchers of the Throne so much.

You get the perspectives of the politician, the almost-philosophical custodian, and the really really angry sister of silence.

Deptfordx
Dec 23, 2013

Too add to 'Horus Heresy depictions of Terra'.

Praetorian of Dorn is set entirely in the Solar System and has a lot of world building stuff in there.

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

Deptfordx posted:

Too add to 'Horus Heresy depictions of Terra'.


Outcast Dead is set on Terra and has sections involving the wastelands and the Thunderwarriors. It's not a book I'd recommend going out of your way to read though

Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Are there any books with Saint Celestine? Backstory or just current badassery whatever. Maybe not just focusing on her, but a major part or something. Anything?

Groetgaffel
Oct 30, 2011

Groetgaffel smacked the living shit out of himself doing 297 points of damage.
Not that I know of at least. I'd love to be proven wrong on that, Sisters of Battle are criminally underrepresented in BL fiction.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

Philthy posted:

Are there any books with Saint Celestine? Backstory or just current badassery whatever. Maybe not just focusing on her, but a major part or something. Anything?

She gets murked by Kharn in one of the newer alpha legion novels

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Philthy posted:

Are there any books with Saint Celestine? Backstory or just current badassery whatever. Maybe not just focusing on her, but a major part or something. Anything?

Shroud of Night has her as a major character

Sephyr
Aug 28, 2012

Immanentized posted:

She gets murked by Kharn in one of the newer alpha legion novels

The finest way to go in all of 40k.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

Sephyr posted:

The finest way to go in all of 40k.

I mean, it's all in the experience (ambience?) isn't it?

Telsa Cola
Aug 19, 2011

No... this is all wrong... this whole operation has just gone completely sidewaysface

Immanentized posted:

She gets murked by Kharn in one of the newer alpha legion novels

If its not too much trouble can you summarize that book? I love me some alpha legion.

Cythereal
Nov 8, 2009

I love the potoo,
and the potoo loves you.

Sephyr posted:

The finest way to go in all of 40k.

The Sisters only exist to get slaughtered, we know.

Immanentized
Mar 17, 2009

Telsa Cola posted:

If its not too much trouble can you summarize that book? I love me some alpha legion.

Alpha legionaires have their curiosities piqued during/after the events of the fall of Cadia. Additionally, they're after some macguffin that puts them up against a crusade force and the living saint; as well as a detachment of Primaris marines. Alpha legion does their clandestine thing, making and breaking allegiances and learning things about themselves along the way. Kharn shows up and does his schtick but it's handled well.

Items of interest:
Celestine has a good amount of screen time
Chaos is really fascinated by the primaris marines
The sequel is coming out this month

Immanentized fucked around with this message at 19:45 on Jan 21, 2018

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
I literally just finished Shroud of Night about two hours ago and it's absolutely fantastic.

It also has the balls to actually set the point of view almost entirely from the Alpha Legion, so there's only a handful of sections when it's from the view of Imperial Characters. And one of those is Celestine, which is delightful.

Also the Alpha Legion main characters are generally well done and emotive. Reminded me a lot of the Night Lords series in how consistently funny it was, though the Alpha Legion's humour is a bit more reserved.

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Probably gonna be getting some more books soon - any opinions on the extant Primarch series of books?

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

Pyrolocutus posted:

Probably gonna be getting some more books soon - any opinions on the extant Primarch series of books?

They're all pretty lovely for the most part

Waroduce
Aug 5, 2008
Is the curse of the wolfen series any good....or war zone fenris?

Like what the gently caress happened with that? The 13th company came back, space wolves saving wolfen. Running from Inquisition and than grey knights and chaos in fenris and??????


I read the first one which I really enjoyed and had a great tone but did they just die off or what

isoprenaline
Jun 4, 2005

And there, till Christ call forth the dead,
In silence let him lie:
No need to waste the foolish tear,
Or heave the windy sigh:
The man had killed the thing he loved,
And so he had to die.
Edit. Dumb question

isoprenaline fucked around with this message at 12:12 on Jan 22, 2018

isoprenaline
Jun 4, 2005

And there, till Christ call forth the dead,
In silence let him lie:
No need to waste the foolish tear,
Or heave the windy sigh:
The man had killed the thing he loved,
And so he had to die.

Pyrolocutus posted:

Probably gonna be getting some more books soon - any opinions on the extant Primarch series of books?

Fulgrim encourages his closest advisors to rear end rape him with a “pear of agony”.

It goes downhill from there.

Zasze
Apr 29, 2009

Waroduce posted:

Is the curse of the wolfen series any good....or war zone fenris?

Like what the gently caress happened with that? The 13th company came back, space wolves saving wolfen. Running from Inquisition and than grey knights and chaos in fenris and??????


I read the first one which I really enjoyed and had a great tone but did they just die off or what

Fenris gets exploded by magnus In there somewhere too.

The Iron Rose
May 12, 2012

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:

isoprenaline posted:

Fulgrim encourages his closest advisors to rear end rape him with a “pear of agony”.

It goes downhill from there.

Wasn't that in one of the Emperor's Children Horus Heresy books?

It was hilariously awful too though. Read like one of those fake sections you get sometimes in pirated BL ebooks :v:

Dog_Meat
May 19, 2013

The Iron Rose posted:

Wasn't that in one of the Emperor's Children Horus Heresy books?

It was hilariously awful too though. Read like one of those fake sections you get sometimes in pirated BL ebooks :v:

Yeah, "The Reflection Crack'd" short story. No, really. That's the spelling.

There's talk about it back in the thread. It's... not good.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Dog_Meat posted:

Yeah, "The Reflection Crack'd" short story. No, really. That's the spelling.

Agatha Christie wrote a story titled "The Mirror Crack'd from Side to Side." It's a legit, artistic way to write the word.

Not excusing the Fulgrim story in any way.

MMAgCh
Aug 15, 2001
I am the poet,
The prophet of the pit
Like a hollow-point bullet
Straight to the head
I never missed...you

berzerkmonkey posted:

Agatha Christie wrote a story titled "The Mirror Crack'd from Side to Side." It's a legit, artistic way to write the word.
Christie was quoting a line from a poem (Tennyson's "The Lady of Shalott", to be precise), though, where contractions like that were at least nominally necessitated by the metre of the piece.

Edit: then again McNeill says his title is also referring to the poem, so I can maybe kind of see where he's coming from. Still feels a little gratuitous. :shrug:

MMAgCh fucked around with this message at 22:12 on Jan 22, 2018

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



I'll firmly cross all the Primarch books off the list, then. Thanks!


MMAgCh posted:

Christie was quoting a line from a poem (Tennyson's "The Lady of Shalott", to be precise), though, where contractions like that were at least nominally necessitated by the metre of the piece.

Edit: then again McNeill says his title is also referring to the poem, so I can maybe kind of see where he's coming from. Still feels a little gratuitous. :shrug:

I must have missed the Poirot story where he fixes his moustache while Hastings shoves a large dildo in his rear end :thunk:

Guy Goodbody
Aug 31, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Pyrolocutus posted:

I'll firmly cross all the Primarch books off the list, then. Thanks!

Don't discount the Primarch books because of a bad short story that isn't in them.

Do discount the Primarch books because they just retread characterization already shown to better effect in more interesting mainline Horus Heresy novels.

Pyrolocutus
Feb 5, 2005
Shape of Flame



Guy Goodbody posted:

Don't discount the Primarch books because of a bad short story that isn't in them.

Do discount the Primarch books because they just retread characterization already shown to better effect in more interesting mainline Horus Heresy novels.

Yeah, I was going off Iron Rose's characterization anyways, which referred to all of them.

berzerkmonkey
Jul 23, 2003

Pyrolocutus posted:

I must have missed the Poirot story where he fixes his moustache while Hastings shoves a large dildo in his rear end :thunk:

It wasn't in The Fisting of Roger Ackroyd or Hickory Dickory Cock? I just finished Ten Little Fingers and didn't see it in there.

isoprenaline
Jun 4, 2005

And there, till Christ call forth the dead,
In silence let him lie:
No need to waste the foolish tear,
Or heave the windy sigh:
The man had killed the thing he loved,
And so he had to die.

The Iron Rose posted:

Wasn't that in one of the Emperor's Children Horus Heresy books?

It was hilariously awful too though. Read like one of those fake sections you get sometimes in pirated BL ebooks :v:

The book with the rear end rape was called “The Primachs” and is from the HH series.

I may have that mixed up with a seperate series ALSO called “The Primachs”.

https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/13258970-the-primarchs

isoprenaline fucked around with this message at 10:02 on Jan 24, 2018

Baron Porkface
Jan 22, 2007


The Iron Rose posted:

Read like one of those fake sections you get sometimes in pirated BL ebooks :v:

I'd be thrilled to hear some examples.

Xun
Apr 25, 2010

Baron Porkface posted:

I'd be thrilled to hear some examples.

tbh I expect them to be copy/pastes from porn fanfictions :v:

Ghost of Babyhead
Jun 28, 2008
Grimey Drawer

Baron Porkface posted:

I'd be thrilled to hear some examples.

The entirety of Space Marine by Ian Watson :v:

quote:

“WE’RE GOING IN through its anus,” Biff whooped boisterously. Indeed. Indeed. What else could that puckered sphincter be, in the white bony hull of the vast, gastropoidal alien vessel? The leviathan that loomed ahead seemed a cross between a nautilus and an omnivorous, space-faring snail. It was the length of a four-K asteroid, and almost as high where its shell spiralled upward in a circuit of increasingly small osseous chambers. The shell was bleached chalky by aeons of radiation. Even as the armoured Fists, tightly packed into a stretched boarding torpedo, stared at the forward view-screen in its mount of bronze bones, that sphincter pulsed. It expelled a quick milky cloud, which the torpedo’s sensors assayed as consisting of bitter liquid dregs, foul gas, and ashy debris – the fart of a leviathan…

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Philthy
Jan 28, 2003

Pillbug
Just finished the Devastation of Baal. It was alright, the more frenzied Blood Angels kinda ruined the immersion a little, but overall it was lots of action and most importantly, it took place in the more current timeline.

So far I've read:

The Emperor's Legion
Dark Imperium
Devastation of Baal

What, if anything, is available to read in the current timeline, or leading up to it? Are there any books covering the Indomitus Crusade, the current fall of Cadia? I believe there is a short story book I haven't grabbed yet, but any other actual novels? No spoilers, just book names and maybe a summary.

I've asked before but I think this is it. With the exception of some of the actual game fluff books which appear to be out of print now because they lead up to the release of 8th edition which is the dumbest loving thing ever.

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