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steinrokkan posted:The same way as everybody. This is really loving silly.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 12:16 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:This is really loving silly. Let's compare phrenology kits! Bohemian Nights posted:You can find the images on the front page of the SCW subreddit right now but I really don't recommend it I don't care for images, but for context of what is going on, if it's deliberate killings or air bombardments...
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 12:25 |
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It's me, I'm the inscrutable Occidental.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 12:43 |
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Are you guys honestly trying to argue that being white, in a white supremacist world, doesn't shape someone's thoughts and behaviour?
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 12:46 |
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steinrokkan posted:People in Europe / America are more upset about Turkey than about Egypt because Turkey was on a road towards a functioning democracy for decades, was at the cusp of integrating into a united Europe (already is part of the customs union) etc., and it is frustrating to watch all that progress being eroded to fuel one rear end in a top hat's ambition. Egypt never had such a history with Europe and never was object of such hopes. I'm not even mad, I'm just disappointed.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 12:53 |
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So what are the odds the PKK is just going to go hog wild now?
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 13:04 |
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Tokamak posted:I hate Erdogan because Turks make worse kebabs than Lebanese. Inshallah. Putting mayo on my Turkish kebabs to trigger the libs.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 13:23 |
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Turkish planes and artillery seem to be actively attacking the YPG east of the Euphrates now too. Realistically I guess there are only so many places US human shields can be at once. Russia's statements seem to be aligning more closely with Turkey's already, and they seem to be going with the idea that this is really about putting pressure on the US to stop trying to create a de facto SDF state. Whoever had the brilliant idea to send out Tillerson to say they were a permanent alternative to Assad is a loving idiot. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 14:34 on Jan 22, 2018 |
# ? Jan 22, 2018 14:12 |
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Not if it gets followed up by US legit sending help and troops...to resist the incursion of a NATO ally...so yea, I guess it wasn't the most well-thought out plan lol.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 17:45 |
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WhiskeyWhiskers posted:Are you guys honestly trying to argue that being white, in a white supremacist world, doesn't shape someone's thoughts and behaviour?
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 18:07 |
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Not me, I have The Right ThinkingTM thanks to my superior brain pan.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 19:29 |
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Flayer posted:Everyone's thoughts and behaviour are affected by the world we live in, whatever the ethnicity. Picking out one ethnic group as if they are the only ones to have their thinking warped by their environment is idiotic. Either way Erdogan just publicly announced his desire to ethnically cleanse a region of a foreign country, which is a universally reprehensible action. It's a weird moment to be bringing up anecdotal biases about white people disliking Erdogan. I think the guy who is "part Kurd" is just playing Devil's Advocate FWIW. Also I think I've almost never heard anyone describe themselves as "part" of an ethnicity unless it's some totally made up thing, like Elizabeth Warren (or [insert half of white Americans]) saying they're part Cherokee, or so far displaced to be totally irrelevant, like Kim Kardashian being "Armenian" because two of her great-great grandparents moved to the US from there in 1900. On a related note to this thread: I love following Twitter feeds of what's going on in Syria because it's a bunch of Kurds calling the turks "turDs" and a bunch of Turks calling the Kurds "Turds". It's so great that they can use the same childish play on words on each other by only changing one different letter, and then using capitalization for emphasis. Edit: Also the broken English with occasional intermittent Turkish thrown in. VVV: Yes, I completely agree with that. Unless you were responding to someone else. Saladman fucked around with this message at 20:29 on Jan 22, 2018 |
# ? Jan 22, 2018 19:34 |
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Call me crazy, but the functionally relevant claims to ethnicity are ones by people that grew up and were raised in that certain way or within that culture, not due to the amount of melanin in their skin, what part of an internet argument they happen to be a part of or who hosed their great grandmother last century. Now can you kindly let go of this "TurD" topic?
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 20:09 |
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I appreciate the insinuations but of course I'd hate Erdogan whether I was Kurdish from my mother's side or not. It just adds some extra spice to the hatred. steinrokkan posted:The same way as everybody. Meanwhile... https://mobile.twitter.com/SheriffClarkeTC/status/955509547283763200
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 20:10 |
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Turks are often cool tbqh.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 20:23 |
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Bip Roberts posted:Turks are often cool tbqh. Do you have a source for this??
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 20:28 |
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Bohemian Nights posted:Do you have a source for this??
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 20:30 |
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Atta Turk!
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 20:38 |
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Mozi posted:Atta Turk! No joke, my brother was forced to change his char name in WoW from this due to all the complaints. Best be careful throwin' that out there in vain, buddy.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 20:40 |
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Not that I'm complaining, but why David Clarke of all people, it's not like there's somebody in Washington going "God, I hope my key ally David Clarke is safe"
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 21:58 |
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Ardennes posted:It did spiral pretty quickly into "lol thats why you should ignore all Marxists/Anarchists." wait im an anarchist tho. i guess myself i meant to say more that you should ignore leftism drama on the internet and actually focus on organizing/building a popular front instead of just arguing with tankies idk
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 21:59 |
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quote:Hayvi Mustafa is co-president of the Executive Council of Afrin, a region in northern Syria of 1.5 million people that currently includes some 500,000 internally displaced people. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...m=.c77f761a38ce
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 22:02 |
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steinrokkan posted:Not that I'm complaining, but why David Clarke of all people, it's not like there's somebody in Washington going "God, I hope my key ally David Clarke is safe" A lot of people were got. Mostly pro-Trump figures from what I saw at least.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 22:03 |
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Why would nationalist Turks be specifically angry at the Trump administration? American assistance to the YPG? I mean, Flynn was trying to help them nab Gulen and had the big Erdo bucks, right?
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 22:13 |
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Maybe Trump offhandedly complemented a Kurd once.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 22:16 |
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The Atlantic's take on the situation? Turkey's proclivities to genocide and to a tantrum-y, conspiratorial victim complex are entirely rational and reasonable, and Turkey by rights should have final say on what goes on in Syrian and Iraqi Kurdistan https://www.theatlantic.com/amp/article/551099/ quote:The Entirely Rational Basis For Turkey's Move Into Syria “Turkey has rough neighbors, so actually they should just be allowed to annex and ethnically cleanse them”
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 22:30 |
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Also pretending Turkey was just watching idly for four years instead of contributing in a way that made things worse is some pretty major revisionist history. If the US doesn't care about being a bad ally to Turkey, it's in large part due to the various other parties Turkey's involved itself with in the civil war.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 22:34 |
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'Rational' is going to be Erdogan's justification for exactly the same things that Assad uses the word 'secular' it seems.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 22:41 |
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Turkish state media is really doubling down on the "fake images shared on social media" theme, seen a few things like this in the last 24 hours, obviously ignoring all the genuine images: https://twitter.com/trtworld/status/955485235155648513
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 22:52 |
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Brown Moses posted:Turkish state media is really doubling down on the "fake images shared on social media" theme, seen a few things like this in the last 24 hours, obviously ignoring all the genuine images: Yet still more sophisticated than Russia just photoshopping SU-25s and such.
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# ? Jan 22, 2018 22:54 |
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icantfindaname posted:The Atlantic's take on the situation? Turkey's proclivities to genocide and to a tantrum-y, conspiratorial victim complex are entirely rational and reasonable, and Turkey by rights should have final say on what goes on in Syrian and Iraqi Kurdistan Atlantic is 95% crap on FP. Case in point the article didn't actually make the case besides a reference to the war of independence.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 01:29 |
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Meanwhile... Russia would stand a lot to gain by driving a wedge between Turkey and the US, particularly right-wing identities. If it was a Turkish operation, why announce yourselves and dry up the "interesting information [that] has been reached".
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 02:40 |
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Punkin Spunkin posted:Why would nationalist Turks be specifically angry at the Trump administration? American assistance to the YPG? I mean, Flynn was trying to help them nab Gulen and had the big Erdo bucks, right? Trump flat out lied to Erdogan about ending assistance to the YPG the last time they talked. Sure, Trump probably had no idea what he was talking about, so he didn't intend to lie so much as he just said what Erdogan wanted to hear, but that's the problem with having a moron president who has no idea what he's doing. Obviously the Pentagon said lol no we aren't pretty much immediately after that conversation. Escalating the situation by sending Tillerson out to talk about the SDF as a permanent alternative to Assad seems to have been the straw that broke the camel's back too, and that's well beyond anything the Obama Administration ever floated, even if they may have ended up there too just due to inertia. Either way, Trump oversaw the period in which our commitment to the YPG expanded well beyond just fighting ISIS, despite many promises that ISIS was our only interest. For what it's worth, I think that's been obvious at least since we helped them rush to the oil fields east of Dez, but openly saying it still makes a difference in international politics. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 03:30 on Jan 23, 2018 |
# ? Jan 23, 2018 03:27 |
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this new video demonstrates pretty well how ISIS was able to cut through the Iraqi army https://twitter.com/worldonalert/status/955521959982501889
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 16:47 |
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That was a drat powerful bomb, completed levelled those buildings. You can see that quite a few troops managed to escape the blast but militarily it is interesting how what looks like anything up to 100 regime infantry felt unable to deal with one enemy vehicle and were routed easily.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 17:19 |
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HorrificExistence posted:this new video demonstrates pretty well how ISIS was able to cut through the Iraqi army lol seeing those fascists running and making GBS threads their pants before being blown up is super satisfying.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 17:33 |
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HorrificExistence posted:Turks apparently did a massacre. Not posting images because it is a pile of dead kids. It's what they do best.
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# ? Jan 23, 2018 18:14 |
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Flayer posted:That was a drat powerful bomb, completed levelled those buildings. You can see that quite a few troops managed to escape the blast but militarily it is interesting how what looks like anything up to 100 regime infantry felt unable to deal with one enemy vehicle and were routed easily. Even after all this time, it seems like there's only a relatively small professional core to the SAA, and then a bunch of hapless conscript losers. The SDF seemed to get way better at dealing with VBIEDs, though obviously having air support from the US helped a lot. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 18:26 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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HorrificExistence posted:this new video demonstrates pretty well how ISIS was able to cut through the Iraqi army I sort of wounder what the deal is with those last dozen guys who got turned into confetti. It looks like they were just milling around until they saw the truck turn the corner.
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LOL Sisi just arrested Sami Anan, the former head of mubaraks military, who tried to run against him in his sham elections:- http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/01/army-arrests-presidential-hopeful-sami-anan-180123121425333.html
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