AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Can anyone give me a brief breakdown of some of the newer heists, since Yacht? I havent done that or much of any of the ones after (Yacht, Alaska, Reservoir Dogs, Brooklyn Bank, I'm not sure what else?)

I know Yacht is stealth only - how does it compare to Diamond Store or Murky Station for stealthing, solo or otherwise?

Are any of the others good XP/time or particularly fun in any way?

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Can anyone give me a brief breakdown of some of the newer heists, since Yacht? I havent done that or much of any of the ones after (Yacht, Alaska, Reservoir Dogs, Brooklyn Bank, I'm not sure what else?)

I know Yacht is stealth only - how does it compare to Diamond Store or Murky Station for stealthing, solo or otherwise?

Are any of the others good XP/time or particularly fun in any way?

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Can anyone give me a brief breakdown of some of the newer heists, since Yacht? I havent done that or much of any of the ones after (Yacht, Alaska, Reservoir Dogs, Brooklyn Bank, I'm not sure what else?)

I know Yacht is stealth only - how does it compare to Diamond Store or Murky Station for stealthing, solo or otherwise?

Are any of the others good XP/time or particularly fun in any way?

Wastrel_ posted:

Heist details

John Murdoch posted:

Heist details

maswastaken posted:

Heist details

Gort posted:

Anyone else playing this in VR? My character feels very slow and the sprint control doesn't appear to work.

EorayMel posted:

how have i ignored the power of flechette ammo up until now

FAUXTON posted:

oh payday I've missed you

maswastaken posted:

More like The Everheisting Tradestopper.

FAUXTON posted:

oh payday I've missed you

Fellis posted:

Paingod556 posted:

You auto sprint if you one-hand your gun. Using two hands activates ADS and will slow you down.

If it's not that, no idea, been fine for me except those times you get caught on loving geometry.

TheObserver posted:

DV, do you happen to have any idea when BeardLib will be updated to the 170.1 patch level? I’m getting continuous access violation crashes whenever I try to run the game, and I can’t update the RestorationMod because of it. Thanks.

Gort posted:

Ah, I've been using dual pistols, maybe that's the problem.

UnknownMercenary posted:

A SniperDozer who dual wields PTRS anti-tank rifles. Getting hit by one instantly puts a player into custody.

UnknownMercenary posted:

A SniperDozer who dual wields PTRS anti-tank rifles. Getting hit by one instantly puts a player into custody.

spit on my clit posted:

actually a dozer that charges in with dual uzis a la Mark of Hotline Miami 2 would be pretty rad

grimcreaper posted:

And knucklesdozer who knos de wae.

ThatOneGuy posted:

The PTRS weighs about 46lbs(20.3kg) and is just short of 7 feet long. So not dual welding it.

Discendo Vox posted:

The Medicdozer wields an SMG, but functionally, enemies with akimbo weapons aren't actually very different mechanically- and the SMG is the weapon we tend to give enemies that are relatively nonthreatening with direct fire. We're looking at fixing up the game's current akimbo-wielding boss, though...

grimcreaper posted:

And knucklesdozer who knos de wae.

spit on my clit posted:

he has a flamethrower that he calls Spitfire.

quote:

From:
To: s.garrett@paydaytaskforce.gov
Date:
Subject: Crackdown

Commissioner Garrett,

Howdy! This is Chuck Thomson, your newly designated oversight liaison for the joint operation between the DCPD, FBI, DHS, and our friends upstairs. You may remember meeting me at our impromptu live fire demonstration last night. I apologize for interrupting your evening like that, but the folks up top were eager to give you a taste of what we had to offer. I understand you may have found the experience a bit humiliating, but I think you made the right choice, given what happened to Mr. Jones and Mr. Fallete when we visited their residences. Hopefully another demonstration won’t be necessary.

Anyway, I’m not here to make threats, I’m here to tell you about the future of civil protection in DC, and the forces you are going to have access to as we work together to end the Payday Gang! Now, I understand the initial Zeal rollout left a lot to be desired. The rush to get forces on the streets in advance of that crime spree last fall…it was lacking, to say the least. That changes today. Our mutual benefactors have dipped into their vaults, to help us keep the Payday gang out of them. Gensec R&D has been fully federalized. We’re practically opening gates into hell to bring in new recruits, and these kids fight like demons, too! The new crackdown coming from Zeal will see entirely retrained and refitted troops that will finally end the clowns. This email will inventory the main changes to the Zeal Force as their first wave hits DC. I’ve added some personal notes, formatted [like this], for your further consideration.

Zeal Forces
All Zeal Force members that have not been requisitioned from local law enforcement are now sourced from the Zulu procurement program. While the specifics of this program are classified, the Zulus are among the most experienced and battle-hardened fighters to be found anywhere, at any time. They will resist coercion, ignore pain, and exercise outstanding trigger control. These hellborne warriors represent the vanguard of the Zeal Force. [While they can take a bullet better than anyone else, these men are all aware that their principal purpose is to drive the clowns into the embrace of the special unit. Don’t ask where they came from, what their training was, or how we command them. They know better than to answer.]

Light
Even the most lightly armored of the Zeal team now works in coordinated squads. A special conditioning program also gives these soldiers excellent reflexes in battle. [We’re extremely pleased with the work the OMNIA neurosurgeons did here; I’ve seen these poor souls dodge out of the way before the testers even take aim!] Rank-and-file Zulus are trained and expected to pursue criminals at close range and provide continuous supporting fire for other, more heavily equipped units. [This is our way of saying these guys are blood on the altar to summon our heavier hitters.]

Heavy
Armored members of the general Zeal Force are now equipped with a full layered weave, impregnated with Vivinite fiber and blast padding. Beyond the usual torso bulletproofing, armored Zulus are generally more resistant to explosives and most other violent force. [We have Zulu squads set up for a number of distinct purposes; I’ll send you the prospectus later. The important thing to know is that these guys won’t let a little explosive ordinance shake them up, and they’re trained to do more than just run at the clowns firing wildly like your “elites” do.]

Shotgunners
When the Zulus first hit DC, oversights in the acquisitions process led to a shortage of weapons; all deployed units were equipped with rifles that, while powerful, provided a lack of flexibility. These issues have been corrected, and light and heavy Zeal units will deploy with a full range of shotguns and assault rifles. [Like the red glow? Our psy-ops group suggested it would have a strong intimidation effect. Don’t lick their helmets, though; that’s radium paint.]

Cloakers
Cloakers have for a long time been one of the most promising special units. Our benefactors had high hopes for the rollout of the second generation of Cloakers in response to the re-emergence of Bain and Crimenet. Unfortunately, the demanding skillset of the enforcement role attracted loners whose neuroses have limited their ability to work with the larger police force. Coordination issues have crippled their onsite effectiveness.
These critical defects have now been addressed. Extensive psychiatric counseling and talk therapy sessions have shown these gifted, troubled officers the power of cooperation- they will now work in teams, and with other units to strike the payday gang. At the same time, “hands-on” exercises with incarcerated test subjects has taught these men the worthlessness of mercy. Cloakers embedded with the Zeal Force will not hesitate to attack a criminal that is alone. [We’ve got them working in groups of up to four, and we’ve also trained them to set traps for criminals using the bodies of their allies. Accomplishments like these are why I’m so proud to be a part of this organization.]

Medics
We spent a lot of time pondering the re-training of Medics, and they're potentially the biggest game-changer for the task force. Because of training, when a Zeal Medic heals a fellow law enforcer, the Medic will also heal all other nearby police. Better supply allocation and positioning also mean that Medics can heal others more than twice as often. These changes make the Medical Unit a much more flexible unit on the field. Even if the clowns adapt and start targeting Medics first, our forces will be much more difficult to eliminate. [We know that Medics have a history of being targeted—that’s why many of them will now be embedded with other special units, who will be instructed to disrupt attempts to attack them.]
A major turning point for us was the decision that medics needed higher range of motion to provide effective care. To achieve this flexibility, their standard assault rifles and shotguns have been replaced with sidearms for field engagement when not performing in a support role. [And to compensate for this, I saw to it that they’re getting revolvers with depleted uranium armor-piercing rounds. If you get any complaints from human rights groups, just give me a name and address.

Actually, don’t bother, we’re monitoring all your comms.]

Snipers
The pencil-pushers over in DHS crunched the numbers and realized that the Payday Crew was locating police snipers by following the lasers on their rifles. [It boggles my mind that it took you people this long to notice. There’s a reason we didn’t give our snipers laser modules back when the clowns debuted at First World Bank.]
To correct for this oversight, police marksmen have had their laser modules taken away and will now be given tracer rounds to tell where their shots are landing. In addition, snipers will be dispatched to the field with support teams to hit the gang from unusual angles [such as point blank to the back of the head]. While constant movement will make these advance units take longer to line up a good shot, we are confident this strategy will return dividends. Our “assault snipers” will be relatively lightly armored and will be more vulnerable in the field, so we’ve ensured they will receive heavy defensive support. [Most of your snipers appear uncomfortable with close range combat, which is too bad; we’ll likely have to anticipate higher turnover in this area. Please let your men know I’m very grateful for their sacrifice.]

Tasers
Tasers have been outfitted with higher voltage, lower current stun units. Shocked criminals are in for a ride: they will go down much faster, and the disorienting effect will be much stronger, making it harder to aim or break free. [We’ve also equipped their uniforms with an insulating layer and a grounding switch. None of us understand how you were running taser units without a grounding switch.]

Grenadiers
Strategic use of teargas has proven highly effective at disrupting Bain’s tactical plans- but Payday gang members were able to anticipate and intercept attempts to plant emitters at conflict sites. In response, our collaborators introduced this “Grenadier” unit to great success last year. He’s trained to lob teargas grenades at entrenched criminals, driving them from defensive positions. [No more lengthy, vulnerable helicopter insertions for the DCPD! Well, ok, we’ll keep sending your men in to die, why not. Every little helps!] The Zeal force now has dedicated Grenadier squads that pair these criminal pest control specialists with other heavy hitters to take out targets once the gas has been driven them from cover.
[Previous iterations of the Grenadier were outfitted with harmless stun gas; criminals might be disoriented and unable to recover their armor, but they weren’t being hurt, which I think was really missing the point. I understand there were complaints in the press about using neurotoxins on U.S. soil, the Geneva convention, etc. Don’t worry about it- my employers have removed the relevant legal obstacles. Just stay out of the training area; we’ve started recruiting from the Southwest and these gentlemen are very enthusiastic.]

Z-Dozers
The same acquisitions problems that hit the main Zulu force also severely compromised the Bulldozer unit rollout. On-the-ground forces were forced to requisition inferior equipment from the DCPD, greatly hampering the effectiveness of our centerpiece forces. This led to Dozers of all types being stuck with pump-action shotguns, stuffed into improvised armor. [I hear the DHS yahoos were literally spraypainting a “Z” on the visor. Ridiculous.]
Now that equipment has been properly distributed, the Z-Dozer force will deploy with designated pump-action shotguns, automatic shotguns, or light machine guns, depending on the squad they are embedded in. More importantly, the real Z-Dozer armor has arrived. Unlike past generations of Bulldozer armor, Z-Dozer armor plates will not break under any amount of force. This is because it’s a multilayered titanium weave housing entire blocks of lab-grown Vivinite, each of which is subject to individual electron laser shaping and reductive blast hardening. [Courtesy of our friends at OMNIA - don’t ask how much all of this costs.] While Z-Dozer visors remain a potential weak spot, Zeal Dozers have received training in flanking, mantling and ambush tactics. They also never move without a full support team. [You may notice a reddish glow coming from inside the new Dozers’ visors at times. Don’t worry about it, it’s strictly a cosmetic thing, we swear.]

MedicDozers
There are relatively few useful resources available to the Zeal Forces in the freestanding FBI forces. One exception stands out, however. During last year’s botched rollout, a data analyst in FBI operations had a suggestion: in the event of a prolonged crime spree by the clowns, begin placing members of the Medical Unit into Bulldozer armor so that they can be better protected while healing their allies. [This young spark has been plucked from her desk and is now in our executive track development program.] The Zeal force now has dedicated MedicDozers, who have received the same exhaustive and effective medical training as conventional Zeal medics. Please note that these individuals are genuinely hard to train and replace, even for us. [You know how hard it is to find a surgeon that can operate while wearing 150 pounds of armor?] They are placed selectively in squads where they can do maximum good, in a leadership position over other medics. [Just be aware that MedicDozers are relatively lightly armed. I wanted to capitalize on this investment and have them also carry miniguns, but apparently their spines kept giving way under the force.]

ZEAL Turrets
Blue sky investment from the DoD and a three year, 18-billion-dollar series of trials at an OMNIA black site have produced an incredibly durable turret with a self-monitoring, self-governing, self-sustaining repair and reload system. If its shield is taken off, the turret will retract, and an onboard 3D printing and fabrication unit will quickly assemble and attach a new shield. There is no limit to the number of times this can happen. ZEAL Turrets will also reload faster and repair themselves more quickly. The PAYDAY Gang simply will not be able to destroy them. If the clowns try to "take out" a turret instead of avoiding it, they will pay for their mistake.
Due to weight issues, this set of improvements will only be implemented in law enforcement vehicles that stay on the ground; thus, helicopters will not be upgraded. [Of course, none of these improvements will be made available to groups not affiliated with US Law Enforcement, who might be mutual enemies of the Payday Gang. Like, say, slipping a file with the core unit improvements to our Murky friends. We wouldn’t dream of it.]

So there you have it, Commissioner! The new and improved Zeal Team. Of course, this is a broad overview; some finer details of our deployment are classified, and we have some additional surprises in store for the gang if this first wave should prove insufficient. That said, this preview should give you a general idea of what to expect from your new forces in the field. We’ll be keeping an eye on you, and we look forward to seeing results!

Best of luck,

Charles Thomson
Quo Modo Deum

P.S. One last note before I leave you to it, Commissioner. We’ve noticed activity in your terminal at odd hours. Think back to when you first arrived in our Nation’s Capital to hunt Bain. I don’t suppose someone stopped by your office with a welcoming gift? Perhaps something emitting a wireless signal?

You did harden your personal workstation against intrusion, didn’t you?

Well, if Bain has a backdoor built into your computer, if Crimenet has had access to all your files, and even if they can read this message, it doesn’t matter. Nothing’s going to help them now. Bain is gone. When the next phase of the crackdown hits, Crimenet will be gone, too.

ThatOneGuy posted:

The PTRS weighs about 46lbs(20.3kg) and is just short of 7 feet long. So not dual welding it.

UnknownMercenary posted:

1.) It's a loving videogame 2.) Payday 2 has long thrown out any semblance of reality. A 9mm Luger does as much damage as a Raging Bull firing .44 Magnum and players can already dual wield AKS-74U carbines.

ThatOneGuy posted:

An AKS-74U isn't the same as a 7 foot rifle. For perspective the MG-42 AKA Buzzsaw is 3 feet shorter, and that things is a monster to carry around.

If they allow dual welding LMGs in the future then whatever. Until then, come on man.

EorayMel posted:

Also if death vox doesn't include a mechanic where bulldozers squash heisters by charging at them I will be very disappointed.

Discendo Vox posted:

Day 4: Teaser time! All contents subject to change.

Discendo Vox posted:

Day 1, part one

Discendo Vox posted:

Day 1, part two

Discendo Vox posted:

Day 1, addendum

Discendo Vox posted:

Day 2

Discendo Vox posted:

Day 2 1/2

Discendo Vox posted:

*kicks open door, staggers into room carrying stack of pizzas and design documents*

Sorry for the wait, heisters! Day 3 is here!

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Nothing about shields in that fanfic?

I was expecting Medic-Shields and Ur-Shields that have a built in LMG that never needs to reload because it is chain fed from a magazine built into the shield or something.

ThatOneGuy posted:

An AKS-74U isn't the same as a 7 foot rifle. For perspective the MG-42 AKA Buzzsaw is 3 feet shorter, and that things is a monster to carry around.

If they allow dual welding LMGs in the future then whatever. Until then, come on man.