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ElCondemn posted:find something he did to directly improve the lives of the poor, minorities or other underrepresented classes because as I said I am having trouble finding anything. ok, now do the same for dems but with the caveat "adopted policy before public polling went higher than 60/40 in favor of"
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:ok, now do the same for dems but with the caveat "adopted policy before public polling went higher than 60/40 in favor of" Isn’t that an important distinction?
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LividLiquid posted:Every grocery store has a deli counter that will make you a better, cheaper sandwich than Subway. I will never understand Subway. When I worked at a supermarket Deli, nothing pissed me off more when people ordered a sandwich. It's a lot of effort to pull me aside from giving out deli meats to make a sandwich that I won't get a tip on.
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Eggnogium posted:Isn’t that an important distinction? If you're trying to take the path of "one side is bad-bad, the other side is good-bad," then yeah, I'd say it is. That wonderful valor of the white-knight politicians making Condemn's life marginally better loses a bit of it's luster when you realize that they would have never implemented that policy without constant dragging by their constituents/voters. This whole anecdotal "wow, these guys were good for me, these guys not so much" proof of value attached to a party is such a ridiculous conversation, anyway. Trying to qualify one as better or worse for the nation because of the effect they had on your small slice of it is partisan hackery 101 and should be ridiculed at every turn.
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:ok, now do the same for dems but with the caveat "adopted policy before public polling went higher than 60/40 in favor of" I'm not sure I understand your issue here, what does it matter if they adopt policy when it becomes popular? Are you just arguing that they're not doing enough? I agree with that for sure but it doesn't make the two "sides" equivalent. IM DAY DAY IRL posted:This whole anecdotal "wow, these guys were good for me, these guys not so much" proof of value attached to a party is such a ridiculous conversation, anyway. Trying to qualify one as better or worse for the nation because of the effect they had on your small slice of it is partisan hackery 101 and should be ridiculed at every turn. I'm not arguing that anecdotally "these guys were good to me", I'm saying the policies and platforms endorsed and enacted by the republican party are actively hostile against me and people like me. Is your point that I should act like Obama and Clinton were just as bad as every politician that came before or after them and there's no point in supporting them or their policies? ElCondemn fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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my point is that when someone refers to former presidents as monsters and then follows up that claim with citations on why they believe they were monsters perhaps you should have something better than 'gee, I dunno, I benefitted a heck of a lot more with them than I did when the other guys were around' as a counter-point. It's great that you had personal benefit from the left hand of the political machine while the right hand continued committing the same patented American™ imperialistic violence abroad and self-dealing crony capitalism at home, a lot of the rest of the country weren't lucky enough to get the distraction. As far as your first question of equity between parties is concerned I'll clarify my point; I'm getting incredibly exhausted with dems building themselves up as the champions of the marginalized when the fact of the matter is that they won't present national policy supporting said groups until it's a slam dunk. There's certainly been a shift in the last few years of congressional dems putting their neck out there a bit earlier but, in the most easily identifiable example, half of the party members and almost the entire leadership would rather criticize the messenger for not following their rules than address the presented issue(s). Votes are earned, not guaranteed, and it's certainly nice to look at historic victories as proof of representation but lately I've been feeling a hell of a lot more of "what have you done for me lately." IM DAY DAY IRL fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jan 23, 2018 |
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Good point, I will vote for the viable leftist party. Oh poo poo. Guess it is the least evil again. 
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Peachfart posted:Most Subway's are in the suburbs where there are grocery stores everywhere. You are talking out of your rear end. In my low income neighborhood assuming you're walking because you are a poor person without reliable transportation, your options are Subway or Safeway, and sure the Safeway sandwich will be better but it sure as gently caress won't be cheaper, especially if you add a side and a drink. Don't be a loving snob about cheap sandwiches. (I don't like Subway and don't go to Subway myself, but I also have a disposable income and a much better opportunity to be choosy than a lot of folks on my neighborhood).
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Peachfart posted:Good point, I will vote for the viable leftist party. ElCondemn posted:I am pretty hard pressed to find policies that GWB enacted that positively impacted me or people like me. Clearly this means that I'm pro-racial profiling, but maybe you can find something he did to directly improve the lives of the poor, minorities or other underrepresented classes because as I said I am having trouble finding anything.
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DrNutt posted:You are talking out of your rear end. In my low income neighborhood assuming you're walking because you are a poor person without reliable transportation, your options are Subway or Safeway, and sure the Safeway sandwich will be better but it sure as gently caress won't be cheaper, especially if you add a side and a drink. From everything I can find, Subway subs and Safeway subs cost nearly the same amount. Also, saying that Subway is gross isn't attacking the poor, in the same way that saying the clothes at Old Navy are poor quality(they are).
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Peachfart posted:From everything I can find, Subway subs and Safeway subs cost nearly the same amount. Also, saying that Subway is gross isn't attacking the poor, in the same way that saying the clothes at Old Navy are poor quality(they are). I will fight you over Old Navy jeans you dumb bitch
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whomupclicklike posted:I will fight you over Old Navy jeans you dumb bitch I worked at Old Navy for nearly 6 years so I know the truth(it's all cheap crap).
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Peachfart posted:I worked at Old Navy for nearly 6 years so I know the truth(it's all cheap crap). But I look so good in them
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Peachfart posted:From everything I can find, Subway subs and Safeway subs cost nearly the same amount. Also, saying that Subway is gross isn't attacking the poor, in the same way that saying the clothes at Old Navy are poor quality(they are). Nah, you're talking like 6-7 bucks at Subway and for an equivalent amount of food you're probably closer to ten. Not a deal breaker for most regular posters here but potentially a deal breaker for someone living in poverty. I fail to see the difference between mocking poor families for choosing Subway for a treat or choosing to buy clothes at Old Navy.
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ElCondemn posted:I'm not arguing that anecdotally "these guys were good to me", I'm saying the policies and platforms endorsed and enacted by the republican party are actively hostile against me and people like me. Is your point that I should act like Obama and Clinton were just as bad as every politician that came before or after them and there's no point in supporting them or their policies? You are more insecure and more poor due to actions that Clinton and Obama took*. That has an incredibly high impact on your life. *Unless you are in fact wealthy** and secure, in which case Ill polish the guillotine for you.  **In this era that kicks in around 5 million.
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anthonypants posted:That new Amazon grocery store doesn't take food stamps. :bezos: I bet theyll institute an "indenturement for food" plan soon enough though.
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DrNutt posted:Nah, you're talking like 6-7 bucks at Subway and for an equivalent amount of food you're probably closer to ten. Not a deal breaker for most regular posters here but potentially a deal breaker for someone living in poverty. Please go back in my posts and show me the part where I mocked the poor for Subway. I just said it was gross.
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Peachfart posted:Please go back in my posts and show me the part where I mocked the poor for Subway. I just said it was gross. You said that calling Subway gross isn't attacking the poor the same way saying that the clothes at Old Navy are poor quality is, and I was just pointing out that I don't see what the difference is.
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DrNutt posted:You said that calling Subway gross isn't attacking the poor the same way saying that the clothes at Old Navy are poor quality is, and I was just pointing out that I don't see what the difference is. their post is missing a verb but I think they meant neither is an attack on the poor
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DrNutt posted:You said that calling Subway gross isn't attacking the poor the same way saying that the clothes at Old Navy are poor quality is, and I was just pointing out that I don't see what the difference is. I mean Lady Gaga already proved that you can wear sandwich meat, so its kind of a wash.
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cheetah7071 posted:their post is missing a verb but I think they meant neither is an attack on the poor Yeah, this.
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Subs > Burgers (Any)
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:it's incredibly easy, transactions can be processed through existing POS systems. there is no way this is simply 'oversight,' they knew from the jump that they'd be excluding people from shopping there by not providing a system to accept SNAP and probably thought either "hmm, let's see if we can get away with this" or "we'll apologize after the initial rush subsides, will implement, then will try to get a win on something that should have never been a question in the first place" You realize the store doesn't have a POS system right? It can only charge the payment instruments you have on file in your Amazon account. The federal government doesn't allow SNAP benefits to be used to shop online yet. So how exactly would the Food Stamps be processed? Amazon is already in the pilot to test allowing people to use SNAP online and isn't in Washington state where the GO store is not in the pilot area: https://www.usda.gov/media/press-releases/2017/01/05/usda-announces-retailer-volunteers-snap-online-purchasing-pilot So cool your jets.
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Jackard posted:Subs > Burgers I really enjoyed the Burgermaster burgers in Seattle.
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KingFisher posted:You realize the store doesn't have a POS system right? no, I didn't know that. probably should have assumed as much, seeing as this is a manifestation of tech wizards' wet dreams of removing human interaction at every step of the process. it's charming that you somehow think this doesn't just further the accusation i was insinuating in my post, though. ofc they're interested in taking SNAP on a national level- it's money and literally millions of people in the country are receiving benefits and, outside of the GOP going nuclear and eliminating the program entirely (as opposed to implementing 3 month limits wherever and whenever possible), it ain't going anywhere anytime soon. if amazon truly wants to shake things up in the walmart/target domain they've got to get into grocery sales (hence the WF acquisition) and not having a structured way to take money from the 40+ million beneficiaries would be colossally stupid. that being said I won't be surprised if they push those customers to their grocery outlets to keep the amazon go locations "exclusive"
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Tsunami warning my dudes. Stay safe.
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Jan 23, 2018 11:47
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Got about an hour and a half before it starts to tickle the tip of Vancouver Island. I am not sleeping tonight.
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IM DAY DAY IRL posted:no, I didn't know that. probably should have assumed as much, seeing as this is a manifestation of tech wizards' wet dreams of removing human interaction at every step of the process.
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ElCondemn posted:I'm not saying that, you're just making poo poo up. I'm saying that Obama and Clinton had policies that directly affected people like me positively, meanwhile the "other side" is actively attacking people like me. I'm sure you'll twist it into me being complicit in the murder of children or whatever but I think it's really disingenuous to pretend like there's no difference between the parties and the platforms they endorse. It ain't all about you comrade. Obama and Clinton pushed imperialism that killed a lot of people that you don't seem to care about.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I really enjoyed the Burgermaster burgers in Seattle. Agreed. I especially like how they let you order them without ketchup if that's what you like.
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I used to live very close to the Burgermaster on Aurora and became briefly addicted to their fish sandwich. I am not proud.
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So I just came across this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJeugIJFXas
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I just came across this
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I like burgermaster but it's not really worth the price. Unless it's all-you-can-eat spaghetti mondays.
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punk rebel ecks posted:So I just came across this The cops would've been there earlier but they were too busy holding mass at their nazi shrine.
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The city of Portland just approved a lease for Multnomah County to have a homeless shelter on Foster, and I am excited to see how badly they gently caress this up.
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anthonypants posted:The city of Portland just approved a lease for Multnomah County to have a homeless shelter on Foster, and I am excited to see how badly they gently caress this up. There is certainly a need for some sort of shelter in that area. I guess it's positive that they didn't push it out to Lents? It is gonna take a huge commitment of resources and a lot of services that I bet are not going to be provided to keep it from becoming a blight on the neighborhood though.
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