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Fangz posted:They should be banished to some other world Perhaps Antarctica
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or perhaps a place further than the universe
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Fangz posted:guess shinkai isn't the next miyazaki after all Your Name actually had a limited release in LA in 2016 so it could qualify for last year's awards Where it was also shunned because the Academy doesn't respect animation as an art form.
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Waffleman_ posted:Your Name actually had a limited release in LA in 2016 so it could qualify for last year's awards It's not even just an anime thing - the Academy barely seems to be aware of western animation outside of Disney/Pixar/Dreamworks. The Lego Movie wasn't a ridiculously good movie or anything, but I and most people I've encountered who watched it at least had a good time with it, which is more than I can say for Boss Goddamn Baby
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surprisingly, when you let a bunch of 70 year old men who havent been engaged with art since the 1970s make an awards show, they make really bad choices especially so in the field of animation, where the number of oscar judges who are on the panels because of their work in the field of animation is, like, 3
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I'd be kind of interested in taking an academic look at how it feels like western critics in general at one point just kind of collectively decided that animation was fundamentally for either relatively light family-friendly fare ala Disney or gross/edgy comedy ala Adult Swim fare - if that's a thing anyone's ever or will ever do. Feels like something like a Mushishi or a Girls' Last Tour or most of what KyoAni or Shaft put out these days could never get greenlit at a western studio. ...Although I suppose I'm not sure if we're telling tons of those stories in live action, either. There's also a non-zero possibility I'm just not keeping up enough with western movies and TV well enough and that I'm largely talking out of my rear end. 
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Jan 24, 2018 04:23
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Western animation has been all downhill since steamboat willie
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the weirdest people in the world are people who are huge animation buffs who outright refuse to watch any anime. like not even 'not that into it' but outright hate the very concept of ever watching any animation from japan. like, would you really rather wait months between releases of crappy cgi cartoons with seven licensed songs than watch literally any anime, if you're someone who cares about the art of animation.
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Endorph posted:the weirdest people in the world are people who are huge animation buffs who outright refuse to watch any anime. like not even 'not that into it' but outright hate the very concept of ever watching any animation from japan. like, would you really rather wait months between releases of crappy cgi cartoons with seven licensed songs than watch literally any anime, if you're someone who cares about the art of animation. I can't wrap my head around how such a person could exist, can you offer examples?
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Jan 24, 2018 04:38
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Yeah, I don't actually think I've encountered that sort of nerd snob before. Like....what do they even talk about? I'm sure I'm self-selecting a bit here, but I can't remember the last time I saw anyone on social media or anything gush over a western cartoon in pure technical terms.
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Jan 24, 2018 04:43
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They mostly talk about how much they liked teen titans
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Jan 24, 2018 04:55
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Jan 24, 2018 04:55
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Season six when? They need to resolve all the loose threads from the one episode they made after the pretty conclusive end of the final arc as a sequel hook for if they got renewed.
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Jan 24, 2018 04:57
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Animation snobs hate anime because it's too interested in being realistic and not cartoony enough lol
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Jan 24, 2018 04:59
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its not realistic at all, anime characters have such big eyes when asians actua-
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Jan 24, 2018 05:04
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And why do they all look white?!
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Jan 24, 2018 05:18
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western animation fans talk about looney tunes and ren and stimpy, still
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Jan 24, 2018 05:26
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Anime is not produced by the enlightened West.
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I mean, I get that you guys are indulging in hyperbole, but even ironically dismissing Western animation as unworthy of "art" status should be punished based on the fact that Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 exist.
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Jan 24, 2018 05:41
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Spiritus Nox posted:It is up to us to love the show enough for ten times our number I'm doing my part!
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Jan 24, 2018 05:41
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Nipponophile posted:I mean, I get that you guys are indulging in hyperbole, but even ironically dismissing Western animation as unworthy of "art" status should be punished based on the fact that Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 exist. No one even jokingly did that, I don't think?
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I'll do it I don't consume media made by white people
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Jan 24, 2018 05:46
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Spiritus Nox posted:Yeah, I don't actually think I've encountered that sort of nerd snob before. look at the cineD animation thread lol
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Motto posted:look at cineD Nah I'm good
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Jan 24, 2018 05:54
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Nipponophile posted:I mean, I get that you guys are indulging in hyperbole, but even ironically dismissing Western animation as unworthy of "art" status should be punished based on the fact that Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 exist.
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Nipponophile posted:I mean, I get that you guys are indulging in hyperbole, but even ironically dismissing Western animation as unworthy of "art" status should be punished based on the fact that Fantasia and Fantasia 2000 exist. That western animation made two good films 80 and 20 years ago has nothing to do with the current state of western animation.
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Jan 24, 2018 06:02
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https://twitter.com/WTK/status/955997788571078656 Anime Strike is back, but now it's just Pokemon.
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Spiritus Nox posted:Yeah, I don't actually think I've encountered that sort of nerd snob before. Ever heard of a place called Cartoon Brew?
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I'm not so much interested in the technical quality of western animation so much as the breadth of the sorts of stories we allow ourselves to tell there, as opposed to in anime. Although I suppose the two things are probably linked to some extent.
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Waffleman_ posted:https://twitter.com/WTK/status/955997788571078656 i guess that was what it was mostly used for, then.
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Spiritus Nox posted:No one even jokingly did that, I don't think? Endorph posted:Can you quote the post where somebody said that? We were saying that modern western animation is in a way worse place than modern Japanese animation, which you can argue may or may not be true, but nobody was saying western animation was inferior as a whole or anything. Heck my initial post that started this tangent was 'I can totally get preferring Western animation' my post pretty much said that. i will admit it in the name of intellectual honesty
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Big congrats to jhon cena
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Endorph posted:They mostly talk about how much they liked teen titans Raven is my uh, what's a gaijin waifu?
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Jan 24, 2018 09:23
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Wife
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Jan 24, 2018 09:23
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That's what I've been saying all these years? Oh god I'm a monster.
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It's impossible for Americans to produce art.
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K. Flaps posted:It's impossible for Americans to produce art.
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That one person who posted in the shoujo thread about how steven universe was better lgbt representation than anything in the entire medium of anime and manga
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DisDisDis posted:That one person who posted in the shoujo thread about how steven universe was better lgbt representation than anything in the entire medium of anime and manga
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Endorph posted:mask of the betrayer is pretty decent i bought nwn2 to play it but then i tried playing vanilla nwn2 and realized i actually kind of hate it
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