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Scrub-Niggurath posted:For everyone stuck with Khalida’s start, it doesn’t get much easier, you immediately have to deal with Kroq’gar and infinite saurus stacks next. But once you’ve exterminated the lizards you have a ton of breathing room and can go get into the badlands orc/dwarves/skaven brawl. if the cards fall right you can actually ally / NAP with kroq, but the lizard provinces are awfully tasty for Jungle Mummies i happened to catch him with his pants down the turn after he hit the 1-settlement skaven army though (because I was about to kill them myself  ) and wound up with his half-strength stack on the other side of a chokepoint and out-archered
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Gay Horney posted:Tretch is one of my favorite campaigns so far. Really encourages playing like a cornered rat. You go and pick the biggest most ridiculous fight possible, run away, let them come to you on your turn, run away again and then lay down the gauntlet when your back is against the wall. Unless you get an ambush then you rip them apart.
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Jan 24, 2018 22:35
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Kaza42 posted:In my current Settra game, a solid half of my income is from trade. I'm making about 2600 per turn, ~1300 from trade, so I'm never really sad to build more trade good buildings Depending on the resource, it may give less money than the normal economic building, and that is not counting the movement bonus the normal economic building gives. TK resource buildings each give 10 of the resource, and many of the resources are only worth 10 gold, so the whole building is only worth 100 compared to the 150 from the regular econ building.
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Jan 24, 2018 22:38
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Chances are you're making most of the money from tariffs not the trade product itself. One trade building makes enough to sell to one trade partner. Like I said, it would've been more interesting to have the crafting system use a particular number of goods produced, rather than just a building.
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Jan 24, 2018 22:43
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I feel like if they had garrison buildings folded into their main buildings, even at a lesser effect, they would be a lot better on the campaign, 6 low tier tomb king units ain't going to even be a speedbump to any random army looking to take your tier 3 city. They just don't have the gold or building slots to get garrisons easily.
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Jan 24, 2018 22:51
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I dont know posted:Depending on the resource, it may give less money than the normal economic building, and that is not counting the movement bonus the normal economic building gives. TK resource buildings each give 10 of the resource, and many of the resources are only worth 10 gold, so the whole building is only worth 100 compared to the 150 from the regular econ building.
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Jan 24, 2018 22:59
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:Admittedly the only non-character chariots I’ve used have been ithilmar, aka the best, but drat TK chariots are disappointing. TK chariots are absolutely trash, but they're a tier 2 one turn recruit unit that costs nothing, so expecting miracles out of them is unreasonable. They do a fairly good job rolling donuts over infantry like skeletons and orcs, and if nothing else you can use them as a huge distraction against the enemy. Just don't bring them against dwarfs; the new dwarf mass buff means that you can put a TK chariot unit into a dwarf warrior unit and stop dead. 
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Jan 24, 2018 23:06
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Chariots are super lame, but man the giant battle cats and scorpions are awesome and the weird serpent dudes are cool too. Too bad all the fun TK stuff takes ages to get to and the building chains are super expensive.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:15
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The final realm of souls should give permanent undead style regeneration. Even with something as great as the the TK skellymans still wouldn't be op.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:17
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Kanos posted:TK chariots are absolutely trash, but they're a tier 2 one turn recruit unit that costs nothing, so expecting miracles out of them is unreasonable. They do a fairly good job rolling donuts over infantry like skeletons and orcs, and if nothing else you can use them as a huge distraction against the enemy. Just don't bring them against dwarfs; the new dwarf mass buff means that you can put a TK chariot unit into a dwarf warrior unit and stop dead. The key to the chariots is exactly that. They are free, but tey also have enough charge and impact to do poo poo. I don't use them on flanks, I put them in the core and rive them through the enemy front line. Everything is chaff. Everything serves.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:19
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Ralepozozaxe posted:The final realm of souls should give permanent undead style regeneration. Even with something as great as the the TK skellymans still wouldn't be op. Realm of Souls in general just feels terribly designed. Okay so I need to bring tons of poo poo chaff troops to die to trigger it. Okay, makes sense, TK line troops are expendable. It gives me a healing buff....that only applies to the poo poo chaff units that are dying en masse to trigger it, and doesn't actually heal any of my heavy hitters because all of them are constructs. Oooo...kay. But you get ONE whole Ushabti unit out of it! It's especially surprising after how well done Murderous Prowess was.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:19
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That's why each rank should give you charges of it so you can save up the uses for when you really need it, and each legendary Lord should get an additional effect when activated that can be further upgraded at higher levels: Settra:Bonus speed and charge bonus Khatep: Bonus winds/reserves each charge. Khalida: Enemy army gets a speed and armor debuff Arkhan: Small damage over time to every enemy unit while active Maybe also have a skill somewhere that lets you get additional charges or start with one charge from the get go.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:28
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The problem with the Realm of Souls healing buff is that even if it's doing something, it never feels like it's doing anything.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:29
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JBP posted:The key to the chariots is exactly that. They are free, but tey also have enough charge and impact to do poo poo. I don't use them on flanks, I put them in the core and rive them through the enemy front line. Everything is chaff. Everything serves. Snowball is not chaff  Murder kitty has been rank 9 since halfway through fighting the savage orcs
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Jan 24, 2018 23:29
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Kaza42 posted:Snowball is not chaff That thing is worth it's weight in platinum, I swear to Ptra
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Jan 24, 2018 23:31
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Kanos posted:Realm of Souls in general just feels terribly designed. Okay so I need to bring tons of poo poo chaff troops to die to trigger it. Okay, makes sense, TK line troops are expendable. It gives me a healing buff....that only applies to the poo poo chaff units that are dying en masse to trigger it, and doesn't actually heal any of my heavy hitters because all of them are constructs. Oooo...kay. But you get ONE whole Ushabti unit out of it! Murderous Prowess is one of the reason Dark Elves are OP as poo poo. I'd prefer if it was removed from multi at least, or if it triggered on your own dudes death like Realm of Souls because goddamn did a swiss army faction not need another bullshit buff on top of all their top tier poo poo.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:32
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Helion posted:The problem with the Realm of Souls healing buff is that even if it's doing something, it never feels like it's doing anything. Maybe simple regeneration isn't the way to go. What if it just instantly restored your trash skeletons to full unit strength and leadership? That could be pretty interesting and help turn around some battles.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:33
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So like think about some army that is just all cheap free skeletons. As long as you keep them from being potentially wiped out, you effectively have 3x the forces available.
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Panfilo posted:Maybe simple regeneration isn't the way to go. What if it just instantly restored your trash skeletons to full unit strength and leadership? That could be pretty interesting and help turn around some battles. Or lets you raise skellingtons from the ground like rats.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:41
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Junkenstein posted:Or lets you raise skellingtons from the ground like rats. Now we're talkin!
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Jan 24, 2018 23:42
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Too much like vampire counts tho. Having like 7 units is skeletons instantly pop back to full health sound be awesome however.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:44
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The Skaven should get a few uses of their summon in Rat People ability.
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Jan 24, 2018 23:45
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Spacehams 2 just got announced. The original was a super fun adaption of BFG and according to RPS the new one has "...many more playable factions, I’m told, with “the Imperial Navy, Space Marines, Adeptus Mechanicus, Necrons, Chaos, Aeldari Corsairs, Aeldari Craftworld, Drukhari, the T’au Merchant and Protector Fleets, Orks, and finally, the Tyranids.”" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPbXOHZW8co
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Jan 24, 2018 23:46
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I dont know posted:Depending on the resource, it may give less money than the normal economic building, and that is not counting the movement bonus the normal economic building gives. TK resource buildings each give 10 of the resource, and many of the resources are only worth 10 gold, so the whole building is only worth 100 compared to the 150 from the regular econ building. But you also have a normal economic building in every settlement, too. You only get one straight +Gold building and you should have plenty of space for all the army buildings you can afford, so there's not really a reason not to build literally every income-generating structure you can manage. The only exception is ports since that like 2% bonus to trade income will probably take 100 turns to pay for itself.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Spacehams 2 just got announced. The original was a super fun adaption of BFG and according to RPS the new one has "...many more playable factions, I’m told, with “the Imperial Navy, Space Marines, Adeptus Mechanicus, Necrons, Chaos, Aeldari Corsairs, Aeldari Craftworld, Drukhari, the T’au Merchant and Protector Fleets, Orks, and finally, the Tyranids.”" Wow, set in the current timeline with awaken Guilliman? Interesting.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Spacehams 2 just got announced. The original was a super fun adaption of BFG and according to RPS the new one has "...many more playable factions, I’m told, with “the Imperial Navy, Space Marines, Adeptus Mechanicus, Necrons, Chaos, Aeldari Corsairs, Aeldari Craftworld, Drukhari, the T’au Merchant and Protector Fleets, Orks, and finally, the Tyranids.”" This looks neat, would people recommend the first game?
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The multiplayer is dead but the story campaign and skirmish against the AI is excellent. e. It's still $40 on steam so it might be worth waiting for the sequel which looks like it will have twice as many fleets. NoNotTheMindProbe fucked around with this message at 00:06 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Eej posted:With the Retreat buff and then Ambush buff from chasing down the fleeing army on my own turn my starting squad of Death Runners somehow took 300 Dark Elf heads. Made my dumb Doomwheel look like a chump. I am. It's extremely skaven. Tretch is the last rat into combat and the last rat shouting encouragement as the assasin shanks the fleeing enemy lord. Had a battle where I took 315 losses and the enemy accounted for 140, with no artillery. Possibly because of overexcited doomwheel discharges. I want to find out if I can take over Norsca and if there exists an army that can't be handled by surrounding it with clanrats and death runners and stabbing until things stop moving.
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I don't know what you guys are talking about, I love Khalida and have been steamrolling everything with her so far! Now the hard part begins, se that green blob over there? Yeah Grimgor decided to say "gently caress Dwarfs" and went a bit nuts. Rank 1, 44 settlements and I suspekt they have conquered all the way up to the Empire. Gonna try and get my good old pal Settra in on a hellwar against them! Edit: This is on VH/VH. Noir89 fucked around with this message at 00:11 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Blooming Brilliant posted:This looks neat, would people recommend the first game? Yeah it was a good game. I didn't play it religiously, but definitely I'll get the second one if they improve on it.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Spacehams 2 just got announced. The original was a super fun adaption of BFG and according to RPS the new one has "...many more playable factions, I’m told, with “the Imperial Navy, Space Marines, Adeptus Mechanicus, Necrons, Chaos, Aeldari Corsairs, Aeldari Craftworld, Drukhari, the T’au Merchant and Protector Fleets, Orks, and finally, the Tyranids.”" Huh, wow I guess Games Workshop really did say gently caress it and pull the lever on licensing. Not a bad thing, just mostly shocked that this is set in the current time period of the setting rather than, well, during the Gothic War. Edit: Also lol at the fact that they explicitly made the Necrons Tomb Kings in Space, while killing them off in Age of Sigmar. Aurubin fucked around with this message at 00:13 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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One of my favorite things about Tretch is that his skull helm makes it really easy to stack enough warding and physical resist to be nearly immune to normal damage, but only if he is losing a fight. Except that it is hard to lose a fight when you can't be killed.
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Panfilo posted:Maybe simple regeneration isn't the way to go. What if it just instantly restored your trash skeletons to full unit strength and leadership? That could be pretty interesting and help turn around some battles. I like it. In multiplayer they can only sort of be buffed, so they'll always be crappy-ish, but this will both feel exciting and potentially make a difference.
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:Spacehams 2 just got announced. The original was a super fun adaption of BFG and according to RPS the new one has "...many more playable factions, I’m told, with “the Imperial Navy, Space Marines, Adeptus Mechanicus, Necrons, Chaos, Aeldari Corsairs, Aeldari Craftworld, Drukhari, the T’au Merchant and Protector Fleets, Orks, and finally, the Tyranids.”" I'm in but what the gently caress is an aeldari? I like dark eldar Also, turn 30 and Settra might FINALLY take the last Top Knotz settlement. Meanwhile Zandri in my starting province is owned by TK rebels who stole it from the vamps and are rocking a full stack of top tier units so. I love TK, they've been my ham faction since age 12 when I actually played TT, and I love the playstyle, but drat this feel bullshit compared to all the other factions. Dorfs or any kind of elf or good ol' Karl, I can rock VH, camps I can legendary, but here I'm hosed on normal. Edgar Allen Ho fucked around with this message at 00:25 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Edgar Allen Ho posted:I'm in but what the gently caress is an aeldari? A version of Eldar that they can copyright. The silly elf names were not contained with the death of the Old World.
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Obviously the proper way to pronounce anything is how Settra does, but is there a thing in Semitic languages where kh is it's own sound? It sounds like it's either silent or slurred together whenever he says Khemri. Also, I prefer saying Neh-h-CAR-uh to the more commonly said Nehek-arr-uh.
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Aurubin posted:Obviously the proper way to pronounce anything is how Settra does, but is there a thing in Semitic languages where kh is it's own sound? It sounds like it's either silent or slurred together whenever he says Khemri. Also, I prefer saying Neh-h-CAR-uh to the more commonly said Nehek-arr-uh. I say Nehek-hara because it is named for Nehek, which I have always said as Neh-heck.
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Aurubin posted:Obviously the proper way to pronounce anything is how Settra does, but is there a thing in Semitic languages where kh is it's own sound? It sounds like it's either silent or slurred together whenever he says Khemri. Also, I prefer saying Neh-h-CAR-uh to the more commonly said Nehek-arr-uh. Yes, it's definitely a thing. l'chaim. Chava. etc. There is a specific letter for that sound in hebrew, and I assume in arabic as well. Presumably GW preferred the kh spelling in latin characters because that makes it seem extra foreign, and because otherwise people would read it as ch as in cheese. Also, I've been saying ne-he-KAR-a forever, it sounds way better than NUhuhkurra
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Noir89 posted:I don't know what you guys are talking about, I love Khalida and have been steamrolling everything with her so far! Yeah, I can see the complaint that she's got real minor-level resources starting out. But you're a human in a world full of AI so... I think knocking out the Silver Host and taking their stuff as soon as you can recruit 2 units of Nehekhara Warriors (and your 4 archers+chaff) is key though. Certainly it's a start where you have to be real comfortable with beating vastly superior VC forces by killing the vampire leading them. Strategic layer shenanigans like opportunism, ambushes and alliances all probably help too if you need them. Those warriors are seriously great compared to the shield skeletons, I mean, they can actually cause damage to infantry, anyway.
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Ok one really fun Settra thing: Queek is sucking up for an alliance and I’m allowing it. They helped stop Nagash and they aren’t in my way, so I figure Settra is fine with it. “Tomb-things struggle, kind-generous Skaven help, yes-yes??”
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