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Franks biggest weakness is he will almost never hurt a guilty cop
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Ghost rider and moon knight should be featured in the existing marvel shows first, like punisher would. Midnight sons would probably take at least 3 full seasons for each character to build up to properly
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Jan 25, 2018 02:00
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Billzasilver posted:Ghost rider and moon knight should be featured in the existing marvel shows first, like punisher would. LoL it sounds like you already write for these people.
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Jan 25, 2018 02:44
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Raserys posted:imo the castlevania series was kinda poo poo I liked it, so, whatever. Halloween Jack posted:There was a pilot based on Global Frequency, but it was never picked up. I haven't seen it myself. Saw it. Have it on hand. Could have been an amazing ensemble show (as only two of the main cast, Miranda, and Aleph, stay the same), and they could shoot it wherever was cheap, as there's no geographical limitation on where the Frequency reaches. Just wished the leaked copy was better quality. Pretty much a direct copy of Bombhead with some minor changes. (One of which was going to be two more regular characters with a random/as needed support staff.)
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Jan 25, 2018 11:29
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:Yes, but he still murders a lot of people. But, as per Frank's perception, the definition of people isn't the same as yours. He's just putting down rabid animals...
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Jan 25, 2018 11:30
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Bust Rodd posted:Ghostrider is fun but you kind of have to make him his own, new thing in any show or movie because he’s arguably one of the 5 most powerful Marvel characters and the scope of his abilities is just barely understood but he’s pretty much as S-Tier as you can get. Which is weird, because it's supposedly based on the sins you've committed. Not if you feel bad about it. I mean, fair enough if it doesn't work on some aliens because they're totally different from humans or whatever like the Symbiotes are but it not working on him just because he doesn't feel bad about it feels like a bit of a weird  cop out.
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Jan 25, 2018 14:03
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dont even fink about it posted:That's dumb, because most characters in comics have no remorse, especially the evil ones. RareAcumen posted:Which is weird, because it's supposedly based on the sins you've committed. Not if you feel bad about it. I mean, fair enough if it doesn't work on some aliens because they're totally different from humans or whatever like the Symbiotes are but it not working on him just because he doesn't feel bad about it feels like a bit of a weird Every comics writer who comes up with this kind of swerve thinks they're clever as poo poo and it's always exactly that dumb. There was a similar sequence where Doctor Doom defeated the Panther God that guards Wakanda by proving to it that he would use the power better than the current Black Panther... by his own moral standards. Like oh yeah, the man whose photo is in the dictionary next to "arrogance" thinks he deserves to rule over all others? Huh, well you can't argue with that, come on in.
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Jan 25, 2018 15:26
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Pretty much any attempt to get me to admire Doom in any way falls completely flat, whether it's delivering the Richards' baby or killing a lion with his bare hands or being a proud Latverian nationalist...it's okay for him to just be a completely insane person who is also powerful and talented and a warped code of morality. That's a good villain.Samizdata posted:Saw it. Have it on hand. Could have been an amazing ensemble show (as only two of the main cast, Miranda, and Aleph, stay the same), and they could shoot it wherever was cheap, as there's no geographical limitation on where the Frequency reaches. Just wished the leaked copy was better quality. Pretty much a direct copy of Bombhead with some minor changes. (One of which was going to be two more regular characters with a random/as needed support staff.) Billzasilver posted:Franks biggest weakness is he will almost never hurt a guilty cop Halloween Jack fucked around with this message at 15:37 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Jan 25, 2018 15:29
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Jan 25, 2018 15:35
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McSpanky posted:There was a similar sequence where Doctor Doom defeated the Panther God that guards Wakanda by proving to it that he would use the power better than the current Black Panther... by his own moral standards. This wasn't quite what happened. The Panther God (who calls himself Bast here) was supposed to determine if someone's soul was pure. He got past Bast because Doom truly believed that a world under Doom is the only way humanity can survive long-term. It was still just as much of a dumb cop-out as you describe - I don't think having good intentions can keep one's soul pure through dark deeds, particularly in the context of Egyptian mythology. Plus it ignores a bunch of stuff from Doom's past, and at the start of the challenge it was testing a soul's purity, then it became testing the purity of a person's intent, which aren't at all the same thing. I hated Doomwar. And I say that as a big fan of Doctor Doom.
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Jan 25, 2018 18:08
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Dr. Doom is such an awesome character but he has some of the very worst plotlines in across either Marvel//DC universe
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Jan 25, 2018 18:13
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Bust Rodd posted:Dr. Doom is such an awesome character but he has some of the very worst plotlines in across either Marvel//DC universe That he's still one the best Marvel characters going despite the crappiness of his plotlines is a testament to his strength as a character. Which is why it's so puzzling that they keep loving him up in all the FF movies. 
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Jan 25, 2018 18:21
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Halloween Jack posted:Ennis did a story arc where Frank kills off a bunch of not-Enron executives. If you followed that to its logical conclusion you could have Frank basically killing his way through the military-industrial complex. Yeah I know, but he very specifically won’t hurt any cops
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Jan 26, 2018 02:30
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jng2058 posted:Which is why it's so puzzling that they keep loving him up in all the FF movies. His coolness as a character aside, he's literally a green and grey Iron Man with magic and also evil. Too similar for the fresh, hip, new ideas from. FOX. Y'all see that Galactus? Homeboy was tiiiiiight. Now that Disney/Marvel is gonna have the rights back, though...
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Jan 26, 2018 03:19
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FF shouldn’t even have doom anywhere near their origin story Marvel did Season One books a few years ago to update all the origin stories, it was great. FF go into space, then they fight mole man, then they fight sexy hobo misogynist namor. And that was plenty.
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Jan 26, 2018 03:28
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:His coolness as a character aside, he's literally a green and grey Iron Man with magic and also evil. Too similar for the fresh, hip, new ideas from. FOX. Y'all see that Galactus? Homeboy was tiiiiiight. Noah Hawley said his solo Dr Doom film was still in the works at SDCC, and after what he did with Legion, Im excited.
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Jan 26, 2018 03:28
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Doom is great but there's kind of only one Doom story going back 50 years: Doom hatches brilliant evil scheme, heroes fail to defeat him directly, is undone by his own hubris, escapes via careful contingency/Doombot. But they still haven't even manged to get that on film properly so  .
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Jan 26, 2018 04:05
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Billzasilver posted:Yeah I know, but he very specifically won’t hurt any cops
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Jan 26, 2018 04:30
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Galvanik posted:Ever? Like, I just read a comic where the super team goes investigate a mosque bombing and found out it was the sheriff that did it. The building was empty, but if there had been some people in there by chance and they'd died, Punisher wouldn't go after that sheriff just because he was a cop? I think they explained this earlier in the thread, but the Punisher avoids killing cops not because of some moral code but because he knows he wouldn't survive the heat he'd get for being a cop killer. And that's what he'd be regardless of how justified he is in doing so.
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Jan 26, 2018 04:36
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Halloween Jack posted:I feel like it must have been ahead of its time; people who like Torchwood and like, Mr. Robot would probably dig it. Could be. It had an intriguing hook though for audience immersion. If you were good enough at what you do, then, one day, a person will come up to you with a fancy phone and tell you that you are now on the Global Frequency. (It's not like you get shot in the head if you say no.) Now, I can't be immortal like Jack or the uber-hacker that is Elliot. But, potentially I could be good enough at something to be on the Frequency.
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Jan 26, 2018 05:05
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McSpanky posted:Every comics writer who comes up with this kind of swerve thinks they're clever as poo poo and it's always exactly that dumb. There was a similar sequence where Doctor Doom defeated the Panther God that guards Wakanda by proving to it that he would use the power better than the current Black Panther... by his own moral standards. Like oh yeah, the man whose photo is in the dictionary next to "arrogance" thinks he deserves to rule over all others? Huh, well you can't argue with that, come on in. That's literally a red dwarf gag. The crew are judged on their sins by a copy of themselves - so of course the vain Cat and the cringing weasel Rimmer pass with flying colours.
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Jan 26, 2018 16:07
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Omnomnomnivore posted:Doom is great but there's kind of only one Doom story going back 50 years: Doom hatches brilliant evil scheme, heroes fail to defeat him directly, is undone by his own hubris, escapes via careful contingency/Doombot. doom's recent comic story was really good. he's been trying to learn how to be a good person, but he's just sort of not very good at it. it's kinda cute 
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Jan 26, 2018 16:19
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I don't want Dr. Doom taking stock and trying to better himself. He's Dr. Doom. He's a megalomaniacal narcissist who thought it was a good idea to mix science with magic to try and reach into Hell to get his mom. He's the guy who could have been the greatest Sorcerer Supreme ever but the Ancient One was all "no, you evil." He's the guy who sincerely believes he's the impoverished people of his third world country's lives better by shooting proverbial nukes all over the place. He's Dr. Doom. Sometimes he might rescue a kitty from a tree or deliver a breached baby because he's not a psychopath or anything, but he knows what he wants and that's total and complete power and domination.
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Jan 26, 2018 21:11
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Oh hey Daredevil news, Joanne Whalley was announced as playing Sister Maggie in DD S3
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Jan 26, 2018 21:33
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STAC Goat posted:I don't want Dr. Doom taking stock and trying to better himself. He's Dr. Doom. He's a megalomaniacal narcissist who thought it was a good idea to mix science with magic to try and reach into Hell to get his mom. He's the guy who could have been the greatest Sorcerer Supreme ever but the Ancient One was all "no, you evil." He's the guy who sincerely believes he's the impoverished people of his third world country's lives better by shooting proverbial nukes all over the place. He's Dr. Doom. Sometimes he might rescue a kitty from a tree or deliver a breached baby because he's not a psychopath or anything, but he knows what he wants and that's total and complete power and domination. He's the guy who's willing to clothe himself in the skin of the only woman he's ever loved for a +2 to his spellcasting rolls but he still sheds a tear when he thinks about 9/11.
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Jan 27, 2018 02:43
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:He's the guy who's willing to clothe himself in the skin of the only woman he's ever loved for a +2 to his spellcasting rolls but he still sheds a tear when he thinks about 9/11. As a general rule, comic book stories that start with the idea of "Fans of this thing like it WRONG! I'll show them all!" are pretty bad and dumb.
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Jan 28, 2018 18:43
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The charred look they gave Ghost Rider in Spirits of Vengeance was so perfect that the AoS GR looked too cartoony in comparison
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Jan 28, 2018 18:49
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Johnny Blaze and Robbie Reyes also look different in their comic book incarnations.
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Jan 28, 2018 19:45
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STAC Goat posted:I don't want Dr. Doom taking stock and trying to better himself. He's Dr. Doom. He's a megalomaniacal narcissist who thought it was a good idea to mix science with magic to try and reach into Hell to get his mom. He's the guy who could have been the greatest Sorcerer Supreme ever but the Ancient One was all "no, you evil." He's the guy who sincerely believes he's the impoverished people of his third world country's lives better by shooting proverbial nukes all over the place. He's Dr. Doom. Sometimes he might rescue a kitty from a tree or deliver a breached baby because he's not a psychopath or anything, but he knows what he wants and that's total and complete power and domination. No the new Doom is awesome as gently caress in his Iron Man armor, and it really fits well with his complete failure as God Doom(such a badass design) in Secret Wars by Hickman. It an incredible change of pace for the character and refreshing.
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Jan 29, 2018 11:57
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Davros1 posted:The charred look they gave Ghost Rider in Spirits of Vengeance was so perfect that the AoS GR looked too cartoony in comparison To be fair, this is what the AoS Ghost Rider looks like in the comics. 
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Feb 5, 2018 16:15
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New JJ trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hSvnepZS26s looks like they're changing up Jessica's origin a tiny bit.
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Feb 7, 2018 16:37
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I'm completely JJ ignorant, does she have any major female villains?
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Feb 7, 2018 16:48
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Wooooo. Janet McTeer being in this season is what I'm most excited about. (Shame she's not a regular, so she's probably not playing the season's villain. Booooo!)
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Feb 7, 2018 17:03
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Bust Rodd posted:I'm completely JJ ignorant, does she have any major female villains? In the comics, she doesn't really have any villains. Purple Man is mainly a Daredevil villain, he was just used for the one comic where JJ (Jewel as she's known in the comics) tangled with him. That's the only real Jewel-focused comic there's been, and it's what JJS1 was adapted from.
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Feb 7, 2018 17:08
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biracial bear for uncut posted:To be fair, this is what the AoS Ghost Rider looks like in the comics. I know, but I really liked the texture on the SoV GR
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Feb 7, 2018 17:26
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It's probably the difference in being an actual Spirit of Vengeance (SoV Ghost Rider) vs. just being in a weird spirit bind with the soul of an evil serial killer (Robbie Reyes Ghost Rider).
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Feb 7, 2018 17:32
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The ghost rider movie was poo poo but they nailed the look and feel of the transformed ghost rider. I loved all the smoke and fire and burned stuffs
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Feb 7, 2018 17:33
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Aren’t they doing some version of Typhoid Mary this season?
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Feb 7, 2018 17:38
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So since you guys actually seem to know Marvel- enough to say yeah, they had to do Ghost Rider this way, because otherwise it just solves every problem because it's so powerful- can anyone give me a quick synopsis on Black Panther? Far as I know, he's a better Captain America and his armor is the goddamn poo poo.
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Feb 7, 2018 17:39
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Omnomnomnivore posted:Aren’t they doing some version of Typhoid Mary this season? That's consistently been the speculation, but I don't think there's been any actual evidence one way or the other. Again, JJ in the comics doesn't have any villains of her own, she just shares threats with Daredevil and Luke Cage, so the door's wide open or she might be dealing with someone new. On the other hand, looks like we'll be seeing Hellcat proper. RareAcumen posted:So since you guys actually seem to know Marvel- enough to say yeah, they had to do Ghost Rider this way, because otherwise it just solves every problem because it's so powerful- can anyone give me a quick synopsis on Black Panther? Far as I know, he's a better Captain America and his armor is the goddamn poo poo. Except rather than being from a magic formula, Black Panther's superhuman powers are a mix of magic and high tech - the magic in the movie adaptation looks to be from the Soul Stone. He's the king of a secretive, sci-fi tech African nation whose kings can commune with a magical panther spirit who bestows its powers upon this nation's kings. With the death of his father, the new guy has inherited the mantle and powers of the Black Panther, the sacred protector of his kingdom and people. Cythereal fucked around with this message at 17:42 on Feb 7, 2018 |
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