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Rhjamiz posted:Wow ok holy gently caress, 2.0 fixes defensive wars, right? I've never been on the "ally" side of a defensive war and being just trapped and helpless as the AI throws away its fleets and refuses to recapture planets, meaning my poo poo gets stolen in the peace agreement is super infuriating. In 2.0 an opponent can't take systems it doesn't occupy, unless it has a claim on them and wins outright.
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Aethernet posted:In 2.0 an opponent can't take systems it doesn't occupy, unless it has a claim on them and wins outright. Oh thank god. Cool. Can I sue for a separate peace like in EU?
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Rhjamiz posted:Oh thank god. Cool. Can I sue for a separate peace like in EU? I don't believe so, alas.
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drat that is an excellent trailer. Kudos to the crew that made it.
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Tomn posted:It's Commonwealth propaganda trying to convince UNE citizens to vote for integration under the Commonwealth. Someone in the paradox thread suggested an event chain that could unify the UNE/CoM in ethics if not an alliance if the UNE lost a war to xenos.
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Trivia posted:drat that is an excellent trailer. Kudos to the crew that made it.
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Rhjamiz posted:Oh thank god. Cool. Can I sue for a separate peace like in EU? Before you get too happy, it's worth noting that the new version of white peace (status quo peace) potentially means losing territory anyways - if the enemy is occupying a system that they have a claim to at the time the status quo peace is signed, they get to keep the system. But you can do the same to them, so it's possible to have a status quo peace where the two sides trade planets. Basically come 2.0 make sure the enemy isn't occupying anything you want to keep before you sign a peace.
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Is there a tl;dr of the cool things coming in 2.0 for those of us that are kinda waiting for the next patch/dlc? I can only robot to victory so much before getting burnout. I think I am nearing 1k hours in Stellaris total 
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Omniblivion posted:Is there a tl;dr of the cool things coming in 2.0 for those of us that are kinda waiting for the next patch/dlc? The way war, movement, and borders work is changing so much (for the better) it's almost a sequel at this point.
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Omniblivion posted:Is there a tl;dr of the cool things coming in 2.0 for those of us that are kinda waiting for the next patch/dlc? There's a great thread on Reddit with a list of changes: https://www.reddit.com/r/Stellaris/comments/7o34yh/summary_of_dev_diaries_and_changes_coming_in/
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I only caught a few minutes of the stream, but can someone tell me why they were saying that they weren't going to/didn't have the time to add an observer mode? Because you can.. you know... press ` and type "observe."
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turn off the TV posted:I only caught a few minutes of the stream, but can someone tell me why they were saying that they weren't going to/didn't have the time to add an observer mode? Because you can.. you know... press ` and type "observe." I can't imagine they'd strip such a simple existing feature out of the game. Were people asking for some sort of official observer mode via the main menu or something?
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turn off the TV posted:I only caught a few minutes of the stream, but can someone tell me why they were saying that they weren't going to/didn't have the time to add an observer mode? Because you can.. you know... press ` and type "observe." Yes, but if memory serves me right the observer mode (when activated with the console) really fucks with the AI for some reason. Or that may have been HOI. Either way I remember it being an issue.
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turn off the TV posted:I only caught a few minutes of the stream, but can someone tell me why they were saying that they weren't going to/didn't have the time to add an observer mode? Because you can.. you know... press ` and type "observe." You can observe, but you can't switch your POV the way you can in EU4, etc. That's kind of needed to have a multiplayer observer 'host', which is what we're talking about.
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The observe console command is not a full-featured observer mode. e:wws (edit: what wiz said) LordMune fucked around with this message at 21:30 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Wiz posted:You can observe, but you can't switch your POV the way you can in EU4, etc. That's kind of needed to have a multiplayer observer 'host', which is what we're talking about. I assume no changes to how it works in single player though?
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Wiz posted:You can observe, but you can't switch your POV the way you can in EU4, etc. That's kind of needed to have a multiplayer observer 'host', which is what we're talking about. LordMune posted:The observe console command is not a full-featured observer mode. Mystery solved. I must have opened the stream at the tail end of that. Psychotic Weasel posted:Yes, but if memory serves me right the observer mode (when activated with the console) really fucks with the AI for some reason. Or that may have been HOI. You can type something like player_ai and your empire will get taken over for you, at which point you can safely go into observer mode. As far as I know, anyways. The mature galaxy command is where things get a bit wonky. turn off the TV fucked around with this message at 21:34 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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ConfusedUs posted:There's a great thread on Reddit with a list of changes: Holy smokes, getting it all listed like that even after reading the dev diaries is pretty crazy. I'm pumped and I was all mentally bracing myself for having to wait until like April or something for it but it conveniently falls right after a large exam and around my birthday. Thanks pdx-guys! 
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Man this game has a lot going on. Miscellaneous questions: Shipbuilding leaves me at a loss, I'm just overwhelmed with options. Are weapon types rock-paper-scissors, or are there just ones that are objectively better than others? Are there any ship modules that I should be putting on everything, or alternately never using? What roles are the different ship types supposed to fulfill? Should I still be building corvettes at all past a certain point, or are mixed fleets always useful? For colonies, am I better off building structures that improve the base output of the sector (Farms on food, mining on mineral, etc), or should I be specializing colonies?
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Rhjamiz posted:Xenophobic all the way I guess. gently caress "friends" This is the correct way to play. Phanatic posted:Shipbuilding leaves me at a loss, I'm just overwhelmed with options. Are weapon types rock-paper-scissors, or are there just ones that are objectively better than others? Are there any ship modules that I should be putting on everything, or alternately never using? What roles are the different ship types supposed to fulfill? Should I still be building corvettes at all past a certain point, or are mixed fleets always useful? I abandon Corvettes and Destroyers pretty much immediately upon unlocking Cruisers, they're sufficiently versatile to serve as your entire fleet. I'll occasionally mix in some PD heavy destroyers if I'm fighting a peer competitor with missiles. Plasma weapons are amazing and you want them, lasers will do until then. Once you get up the tech tree, start adding Kinetic Battery Battleships, they'll ensure your Plasma Cruisers are firing at targets with no shields by the time you close. Things aren't really rock paper scissors, so you can mostly build what you want, and don't use missiles outside the early game. Specializing planets is technically better, playing truly optimally means taking advantage of the +Resource modifier buildings you can build. In practice that's too annoying and I don't bother, the difference isn't that huge. The exception is planets with +25% Mineral modifiers, those just get Unity buildings and all the mines they can hold. PittTheElder fucked around with this message at 22:09 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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When you capture a starbase from an enemy, will the model change? It'd be pretty cool if it didn't, and like you'd end up with all these obviously conquered starbases. Like DS9 being a Cardassian station run by the Feds.
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Artificer posted:Dear God. That trailer reminds me of all those strike craft pilots I've probably lost. Maybe they're all remote controlled drones. We have them on regular old non space earth.
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Tomn posted:It's Commonwealth propaganda trying to convince UNE citizens to vote for integration under the Commonwealth. With some alterations, it could also be good propaganda for my Space Kitten Empire to convince the surviving humans to vote for integration into the Star Republic. Because I'm pretty sure if the devouring swarm eating them had had planet destroyers, they would have used them. 
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appropriatemetaphor posted:When you capture a starbase from an enemy, will the model change? It'd be pretty cool if it didn't, and like you'd end up with all these obviously conquered starbases. Like DS9 being a Cardassian station run by the Feds. I wish we had this for planet graphics too. I think some of the civs did that too to some extent.
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I think I asked this last expansion, but I forgot the answer: is there any actual benefit to preordering (other than being able to cancel your preorder in a huff later)? There wasn't any preload available, IIRC, so... 
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ulmont posted:I think I asked this last expansion, but I forgot the answer: is there any actual benefit to preordering (other than being able to cancel your preorder in a huff later)? There wasn't any preload available, IIRC, so... Nope, just feels good for some people.
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Shugojin posted:Maybe they're all remote controlled drones. We have them on regular old non space earth. can't use the force to blow up death stars if it's a remote drone. Just won't work.
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ConfusedUs posted:There's a great thread on Reddit with a list of changes:  Wiz, you're a freaking god amongst men e: LordMune is pcool too
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appropriatemetaphor posted:When you capture a starbase from an enemy, will the model change? It'd be pretty cool if it didn't, and like you'd end up with all these obviously conquered starbases. Like DS9 being a Cardassian station run by the Feds. This would be cool, although upgrading it would likely pose problems.
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:This would be cool, although upgrading it would likely pose problems. I mean the type can just be set when it's made and stay in that style forever.
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Will the new Mastery of Nature benefit apply to ever planet you colonize, or only ones you have once you grab it? What happens if the planet is captured by someone else?
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Artificer posted:Dear God. That trailer reminds me of all those strike craft pilots I've probably lost. I try not to think about what happens to fighters when an emergency jump happens. Or really hope they have their own drives to jump. Also the events where you come across ancient pods that didn’t get picked up...
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Will the new Mastery of Nature benefit apply to ever planet you colonize, or only ones you have once you grab it? What happens if the planet is captured by someone else? It's a planetary edict, so you have to activate it individually for every planet.
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Artificer posted:Dear God. That trailer reminds me of all those strike craft pilots I've probably lost. Just lol if your spaceships have crews in the year of our lord 2300.
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Knowing the release date gives me optimism that this month is going to be full of the bugfixing of the major bugs coming with 2.0. Technically since everything is changing, is this just Stellaris 2 on the Stellaris 1 engine?
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Beer4TheBeerGod posted:Will the new Mastery of Nature benefit apply to ever planet you colonize, or only ones you have once you grab it? What happens if the planet is captured by someone else? It looks like it's a one-time purchase edict on each planet you control. No idea what happens when someone else captures the planet, but I'd assume the increase stays.
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I'm hoping the marauders are laying the groundwork for playable nomads.
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SpaceViking posted:It looks like it's a one-time purchase edict on each planet you control. No idea what happens when someone else captures the planet, but I'd assume the increase stays. The real question will be if you can take the edict again after you capture a planet. 1) Take Edict. Planet gets 3 spaces bigger. 2) Sell planet to friend. He takes edict. Planet gets 3 spaces bigger. 3) Planet sold back to you. You take edict. Planet gets 3 spaces bigger. 4) Repeat ad infinitum Sure it would be expensive as hell to take the edict so many times, and sure it would be super easy to code out, but god drat would it ever be hilarious.
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