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George H.W. oval office posted:It was a local firm but yea I wouldn't be surprised if Robert Half does the same kind of thing. What a ginormous red flag. I would never do business with a company like that, let alone a recruiter.
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George H.W. oval office posted:Recruiter called this morning and said they will not be moving forward with me on two applications due to not providing salary history. Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. Tell them you get paid in bitcoin so you have no idea what you make from day to day.
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Aside from DEAR GOD DON’T DO IT, does anyone have advice for doing freelance personal computer repair? I’m thinking a contract specifying warranty length and that if illegal data is found on the computer you will be forced to contact the police / FBI. I don’t think the person I was talking to who was considering it would care about  , but I wouldn’t put it past a pedophile to sue you for reporting them to the FBI.
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This thread and the other IT chat megathreads have been super helpful for me - I posted here about 2 years ago asking for advice, and now I'm doing end user support for our inhouse application, some BA, and some QA. No degree or certs, just a lateral move from the call center, then got promoted two levels at the 6 month mark. It's a unicorn startup so it's stressful and poorly planned and the pay is mediocre, but I finally have something resembling a career path. Thanks goons
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dogstile posted:Add me to the list of people that are probably clever enough to get by but certainly not clever enough to post in this thread regularly. You guys teach me a lot of poo poo via your normal discussion (and you even got me out of my first well) so i'm super happy you guys are, well, you guys. Same. Vargatron posted:Windows Surface tablets are a bitch to work on. I'm old and new things scare me. Nah, just throw a Bluetooth keyboard on that bitch and pretend it's a laptop (because it is.) George H.W. oval office posted:Recruiter called this morning and said they will not be moving forward with me on two applications due to not providing salary history. Get fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuucked. Proper response. I mean literally email that back to them. Judge Schnoopy posted:Salary History: Or that. One made-up number is as good as another, right? George H.W. oval office posted:They required verification lol Like, they wanted you to provide paystubs or tax records or something? 
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So after not getting a raise I now get to fill in a personal development plan (mind you, not an improvement plan). quote:How does the employee feel about the past year (2017)? Anything that needs special attention or mentioning? How have you grown in the past year, what is it that your unit manager needs to be aware of? quote:Overview of results and improvements. Should include highlights of your project reviews, which trainings have been completed, which certificates achieved, basically: how you improved your value and your value to Company I’m tempted to anwser with: Employee feels underwhelmed by company commitment. Despite achieving set goals and extremely good customer review company reaction was lackluster. Employee feels great results should be rewarded. Goals for 2018 are: - find new job with a company that apreciates me. - sign contract - give notice And then turn it in by giving notice. LochNessMonster fucked around with this message at 18:36 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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LochNessMonster posted:So after jot getting a raise I now get to fill in a personal development plan (mind you, not an improvement plan). Do it
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jaegerx posted:Tell them you get paid in bitcoin so you have no idea what you make from day to day. And then charge them a transaction fee for asking. If a recruiter were to utter the word "salary" and it isn't immediately followed by the words "requirements do you have?" the conversation is over.
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jaegerx posted:Tell them you get paid in bitcoin so you have no idea what you make from day to day. 
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Internet Explorer posted:To me, your main line of business app is one of the most important aspects of your business. See phrases like this are why it's awesome to come here. I've said something similar before, but I will probably say this almost verbatim to upper management to get them to stop putting off this upgrade. Our SAP implementation is from 1998 ffs
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Well poo poo guys. I passed my written exam for a desktop job with the city. They want to do a interview. Problem is, they set a date and time and I can’t negotiate. My official start date as a employee with the client we’ve all been on for years is that same day. I have no pto yet since it’s literally my first day. Pay is good, but no advancement opportunity here. Wouldn’t mind the slower pace of a government job. Should I just withdraw from that process? When I first applied I didn’t trust this place to increase my pay at all, let alone by how much they did. I was passed over for a pretty meagre title bump, and it was shady how it was done, but the money made me get over it. I figure I’m going to stack the cash and certify this year, exiting to a higher position.
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Darchangel posted:Proper response. Yeah, it sucks in the short term to miss out on the potential job opportunities. But you've dodged a bullet by not working with this garbage tier recruiter. It's worth sticking to your guns on this.
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skooma512 posted:Well poo poo guys. They aren't going to be flexible on the interview time/date? That is a pretty serious red flag for me. if you are comfortable with the rate you're getting now and are now in a position where you don't need to immediately get out, don't compromise your current position imo
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Punkbob posted:Same here to be honest. I never really went to college and my HS gpa wasn’t something to write home about.  I'm thankful for dad spending $3000 AUD for an Apple II e in the 80s, then a 386 in the 90s, even though he is a technophobe. They were the catalyst for my journey of self-learning and interest in technology.
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skooma512 posted:Well poo poo guys. Is it an option to push back your start date due to explosive diarrhea? edit: But what Kashuno said as well, inflexibility on interview dates is a red flag. Sprechensiesexy fucked around with this message at 18:59 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Ranter posted:
Hell yeah. My first PC was a Gateway with Win95. My dad told me later as I grew up that he didn't know the first thing about PCs but he had started to see them in his office and knew that is critical for kids to get onto them.
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My dad wasn't a technophobe, but he did have to smuggle a commodore64, the tape unit, and the floppy unit for it from germany, because they were highly regulated (read: forbidden, not available) in yugoslavia in those days. I'm glad he did, for the same reasons, we had a tiny b&w telly plugged in and it served as the home computer until we got a 386 in the 90s, and without these things I'd probably never get into computing as much and as early as I did. I played around with that thing before even getting to elementary school.
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I remember the day I got my first computer. I was in second grade and my mom had bought a Laser 128 Mac Compatible computer through school and they delivered it to the classroom for me. Like I seriously don't remember anything else so clearly from elementary school than the day I got my first computer.
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Kashuno posted:They aren't going to be flexible on the interview time/date? That is a pretty serious red flag for me. if you are comfortable with the rate you're getting now and are now in a position where you don't need to immediately get out, don't compromise your current position imo Yeah they just said “it’s this time and date” pretty much. I think this is still the initial stages and they’re just doing weed out.
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Yeah, that sounds like government. I’d give them the benefit of the doubt and call in sick with your current employer. Is the interview in the morning? You could tell your job that you can come in once the Imodium starts working and they won’t protest or ask for any more details.
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I still have my first computer, but it won't boot. It sat untouched at my late father's house for the last 25+ years It's an Epson... something. 2MB hard disk drive and 5 1/4 floppy. ran DOS. I learned how to read at the same time I learned how to get it to play a couple games we had for it.. Especially infocom text adventures (HHG2G). It sparked (cursed) my interest in computing. My Dad wasn't much of a computer guy but his brother was, and this machine was a handmedown. All my old man ever did on it was play "Mean 18" Golf and Leisure Suit Larry. This was my only machine (divorced parents, played on this machine at Dad's on weekends) until I got my mom and step dad to buy me a Macintosh Performa 6200CD when I was in middle school. The sounds it made while trying to boot instantly whisked me back in time to the mid 80s. was weird.
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If you want to try getting it working maybe ask here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3577352
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nielsm posted:If you want to try getting it working maybe ask here: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3577352 good idea. I might at some point. first thing i'm going to do when I care enough to is scour our dungeon at work for a 5 1/4 drive and see if that helps.
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skooma512 posted:Well poo poo guys. gently caress that. You passed the written test, your interview isn't trivial or wasting time. If they can't be flexible, imagine working for them where every request for time off is met with begrudging attitude. A well run organization will know how to be flexible, especially when it comes to respecting the time of employees and prospective employees.
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I’m going to postpone turning it in until I have a signed contract somewhere else. Hitting up some recruiters atthe moment but that’s really hit or miss. Half of them send generic intro’s and don’t anwser any questions I ask them. All of them want to have a phone call instead of just exchanging basic info via mail / linkedin at first. If I have to do that I can spend 15 hours a week calling all of them. Got one that looks good at first glance. Came up with 2 vacancies that match my experience really well and also match the areas I said I want to improvemy skills in. Gonna give him call tomorrow. Both pay 10-15% above what I earn now and are closer in commute.
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George H.W. oval office posted:They required verification lol Haha I would have told them to get fukt (as it seems you did) no one is allowed to see anything that confirms my salary ever. First computer was a 386 running DOS, I forget which version, the guy my parents bought it from had installed a "GUI" on it, it had like 10 options, if you didn't want those you hit esc and got a DOS prompt. Next computer was some, packard bell maybe, computer with windows 3.1, crazy times. Also, we somehow had porn on the 3.1 machine, I recall finding a picture at some point, my brother might have used a scanner to get it on there though, lord that scanner was interseting, it basically looked like a huge mouse that you dragged over whatever you wanted scanned. MF_James fucked around with this message at 20:16 on Jan 25, 2018 |
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Only exception is landlords or banks when applying for a loan.
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I think you guys are maybe overreacting a bit about skooma512's interview. They're not doing this to him. When a government job like this opens up, and it's (I am assuming) a little more junior and will have tons of applicants, it's very common for them to knock out these interviews in a couple of massive blocks. Frequently they'll bring in an impartial interviewer from another city or agency, and a few IT people from the city he's applied to will have cleared their calendar. This is not a 6 month hiring process for a new director, this is 2 days of interviews and we're taking the best guy at the end of it. If skooma can't make one of those dates, he's not going to get the job, but it's no one's fault, it's simply the process for these kinds of jobs.
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I’m dumb and read his post as job in the city not with the city
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I ended up not getting an offer once because I provided documentation of salary and HR said they couldn’t afford me. I was willing to work with them because their benefits were insane but the pay became an issue for them and they thought I’d end up leaving or something. So never tell them what you actually make. Just talk in ballpark figures.
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Again, this is why I only answer salary questions with the plea "whatever you'll give me sir" while wringing my hat in my hands. If you want the job, show them.
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Or to quote Al Bundy "Here's my wallet and my car keys, just step on me on your way out the door."
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Fun day to find out that our backup generator isn't switching on when power goes out.
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funmanguy posted:Fun day to find out that our backup generator isn't switching on when power goes out. It's hilarious to me the number of times I've heard this story.
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funmanguy posted:Fun day to find out that our backup generator isn't switching on when power goes out. No matter how many times you test the fuckers, one day its going to happen.
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MC Fruit Stripe posted:Again, this is why I only answer salary questions with the plea "whatever you'll give me sir" while wringing my hat in my hands. If you want the job, show them. I may *want* a job, but I'm still going to make them give *me* what they're willing to pay. I'm not going to help them out by giving them a floor to start at and leave money on the table. Now, if I actually *need* a job... well, I'm not sure how my mental calculus will work out.
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Sickening posted:No matter how many times you test the fuckers, one day its going to happen. ..."test"  Also, on the subject of making stupid posts and being taught otherwise before you open your big dumb stupid mouth in front of your boss, I have another suggestion - you can avoid people criticizing your posts by making them so absurdly long and wordy that they just stop reading. It's what I do and it works PERFECTLY. (I have a problem with brevity  ). (I've gotten better with time, at least for work emails, but here I don't control myself as much. Obviously).
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This thread won me brownie points with my manager because I heard about Meltdown before anyone else, which meant I was the one to tell him about the potential security vulnerability on our VMs. This was right before my PIP ended too. Pretty sure that’s not why I passed, but it didn’t hurt.
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22 Eargesplitten posted:This thread won me brownie points with my manager because I heard about Meltdown before anyone else, which meant I was the one to tell him about the potential security vulnerability on our VMs. This was right before my PIP ended too. Pretty sure that’s not why I passed, but it didn’t hurt. The infosec thread is easily hours if not a day ahead of most of the rest of the internet, and as a result, most of my coworkers. You could probably scoop the infosec thread if you spent all day trawling twitter, but I don't have that kind of time. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3750534 - Thread in question if for some reason anyone reading this is not already following it.
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