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I'm not going to make statements about artistic value. I am, however, going to loving crosspost and point out an unfortunate assumption I found people making on the pro-automation side that belie a severe misunderstanding as to how animation works, and genuinely don't know why inbetween animators are so important. To be fair, many people in the industry also fail to realize this. KyotoAni is one of the notable exceptions and their treatment of inbetweeners is part of why their stuff looks so good.Xarbala posted:The thing about inbetween frames is that they're actually the vast bulk of the animation process, and in the well-animated stuff is also where most of the personality and flair goes.
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Caros posted:If their work doesn't have enough 'soul', studios will keep on humans to do the work, You are either suicidally naive or genuinely dumb. Why do you think production houses are even investing in auto-tweening? They hate that they have to pay animators and are looking for every possible option to minimize the amount of staff they're responsible to.
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Improbable Lobster posted:People can tell the difference the tech will get better and people will always look for ways to cut cost
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Manatee Cannon posted:the tech will get better and people will always look for ways to cut cost It's just algorithms, the tech will literally never look as good.
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it doesn't have to and that's not my point
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Improbable Lobster posted:It's just algorithms, the tech will literally never look as good. Look, all we have to do is teach a computer program what love is and we're golden.
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Manatee Cannon posted:it doesn't have to and that's not my point It doesn't matter because the tech will never look good enough. Good enough for churned out crap like zombie Simpsons, sure, but it'll never be good enough for anything that's trying to look good.
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When Droyer mentions the artistic intent of deciding how to interpret a given inbetween frame, that's actually a vital part of the job of animation, full stop. Tween frames aren't just filler between keyframes, they are the depiction of the motion itself, and it's up to the animator to decide how to interpret that motion visually. Like I mentioned, in Overwatch highlight intros, they could've done a cheap and easy job of just moving the skeletons of the models around to get the overall feel of the motion depicted. But they didn't. A human actually went in there and made smears and squashes for the meshes to follow and while they look extremely hosed up as stills, they're vital to making the OW highlight intros look extremely dynamic and fluid.
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oh my god, is every thread in this forum going to turn into this same dumbshit argument
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NotALizardman posted:oh my god, is every thread in this forum going to turn into this same dumbshit argument Someone should take this argument into the Violet Evergarden thread
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it might improve the darling in the franxx thread, now that i think about it
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Droyer posted:At the end of episode 3 the protagonist and 3 girls are together in the main robot's cockpit and he has to poop and it's very funny. He didn't just say "Get out, I need to use the bathroom!"?
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biracial bear for uncut posted:He didn't just say "Get out, I need to use the bathroom!"? they were in the air at the time.
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So? People exit gundams mid-air all the time.
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I like the parts where the robots shoot lasers and then there are pretty explosions.
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I like the Gundams with the turlits
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I know good and well I've seen a lot of scenes where someone decides to bail out of their mobile suit for some reason or another (several of them being to fetch somebody else that fell out of theirs and pull them back into their own suit), but I can't seem to find where anybody has made any montages out of them.
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I forgot how much narrative exposition Wing uses. It is also astounding how much of the series has our pilots not with their Gundams which feels a lot more unique now that I've seen a lot of Gundam. They just leave them all over, so many suit self destructions. vvvv It is totally worth it for his smooth smooth voice and astounding annunciation The Notorious ZSB fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jan 26, 2018 |
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Hey, if you had Cambpell Lane on hand to do your exposition, you'd use him all you could as well.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7OSeEMxDKE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XuDea9yYB8U Please watch and take a shot (or have a chuckle) whenever you hear "however"
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pfffhahahahaha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=grwMSNNZcJQ
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This is good.
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The Gundam dub really have drum n bass end credits??
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Sakurazuka posted:The Gundam dub really have drum n bass end credits?? Only the Toonami broadcast. The Blu-Ray has the original OP and end credits.
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Darth Walrus posted:pfffhahahahaha I still think the MGS version is the best of these but this one is really good
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Marx Headroom posted:I still think the MGS version is the best of these but this one is really good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-XtMNYHsZc
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Sakurazuka posted:The Gundam dub really have drum n bass end credits?? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DJ57wc_bkI&hd=1
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Found some gameplay footage for New Fundamental Breaker on Reddit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJRA3xTD0Wk Seems to be some on-the-fly modding.
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https://youtu.be/rApJ_26r0Bg aaaaaaa Although just like the first MSG Battle Operations I’m sketical it will get a US release. At least I should be able to make a Japan account and download the beta. Anyone know how to go about doing that?
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Darkman Fanpage posted:https://youtu.be/rApJ_26r0Bg Aww yiss, thanks for the heads up. I might not have noticed this otherwise. Strangely enough Battle Operation Next was one of the only games my girlfriend could bear to watch me play for longer than 10 minutes. I'm not sure about how to make the account, though I imagine it' might involve using a proxy to spoof your location.
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RillAkBea posted:Aww yiss, thanks for the heads up. I might not have noticed this otherwise. Strangely enough Battle Operation Next was one of the only games my girlfriend could bear to watch me play for longer than 10 minutes. I made a Japanese PSN account probably 5 years back to play some Gundam game that came before Next on my PS3 and I didn’t have to use a proxy. A quick google search found this: https://www.dualshockers.com/how-to-create-japanese-psn-account-guide-ps4-free-games-demos-themes/ and it doesn’t look like you’ll have to use proxies to make one on the PS4 either. I’m actually wondering if I can use my Japanese PSN account from my PS3 to logon. I forget whether or not I had to create a new account for my PS4 or if I just used my original from my PS3. Darkman Fanpage fucked around with this message at 16:13 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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Darkman Fanpage posted:I made a Japanese PSN account probably 5 years back to play some Gundam game that came before Next on my PS3 and I didn’t have to use a proxy. A quick google search found this: https://www.dualshockers.com/how-to-create-japanese-psn-account-guide-ps4-free-games-demos-themes/ and it doesn’t look like you’ll have to use proxies to make one on the PS4 either. I find it hard to be at all enthused by this when both of the previous games have gone with honestly the worst free to play scheme conceived.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:I’m actually wondering if I can use my Japanese PSN account from my PS3 to logon. I forget whether or not I had to create a new account for my PS4 or if I just used my original from my PS3. You can use the same one. They're independent of the device.
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Guy Goodbody posted:It doesn't fly by that point, the casual racism faced by the Kuntala is a recurring theme of the show. Duh, I am not an idiot, my point is that any other show would have focused more on the actual "these people gotten eaten" part and play it up for drama. The fact the show just treats it as a fact of life and is more concern about the casual racism you mention is what makes it great.
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Midjack posted:You can use the same one. They're independent of the device. Sweet.
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Snooze Cruise posted:Duh, I am not an idiot, my point is that any other show would have focused more on the actual "these people gotten eaten" part and play it up for drama. The fact the show just treats it as a fact of life and is more concern about the casual racism you mention is what makes it great. Oh, sorry. In my defense, during the run of the show there were people saying that G-Reco's treatment of racism was unrealistic because the non-Kuntala people weren't mean enough about it
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The Notorious ZSB posted:I forgot how much narrative exposition Wing uses. It is also astounding how much of the series has our pilots not with their Gundams which feels a lot more unique now that I've seen a lot of Gundam. They just leave them all over, so many suit self destructions. Yeah, I also liked how much stuff goes on away from the robots. I also maintain that Relena is the real main protagonist of the series so having a main heroine who never even pilots a robot is also unique.
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Guy Goodbody posted:Oh, sorry. In my defense, during the run of the show there were people saying that G-Reco's treatment of racism was unrealistic because the non-Kuntala people weren't mean enough about it Yeah, that was pretty hosed up and you can tell that the person who said it had never experienced casual racism in their life.
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