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Trabisnikof posted:They just usually don’t let you sit at fence with binoculars for hours without getting someone’s attention I sat in a car across from the Livermore staff entrance for 2 hours once, undisturbed. no binoculars though
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it's just metadata what's the harm
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random data without corroboration or attribution is essentially garbage. making dumb assumptions based on the same data without corroboration or attribution is also stupid. this is super simple ya'll edit: there's no usable intel here without existing intel
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afghanistan is probably the best example of the problem https://labs.strava.com/heatmap/#7.33/64.64391/33.85870/hot/ride
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Hmm yes this is meaningless. Absolutely nothing could be done with this information unless you already knew they were CIA safehouses or something. It's not like a local militia or something could investigate these areas now that their existence is highlighted. I think they need at least 3 sets of independent proof before they get out of bed in the morning.
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cheese-cube posted:random data without corroboration or attribution is essentially garbage. making dumb assumptions based on the same data without corroboration or attribution is also stupid. this is super simple ya'll You seem to have an extremely vested interest in nobody perusing this data closely.
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cheese-cube posted:random data without corroboration or attribution is essentially garbage. making dumb assumptions based on the same data without corroboration or attribution is also stupid. this is super simple ya'll But it sure is a great starting point to tell your resources to do their confirming at. Or send a half-cocked militia, and let God sort em out. Finding Texas border patrol routes is a fun exercise with this tool.
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cheese-cube posted:who's to say it doesn't just record GPS positions and then upload them later. this is the default strava app behaviour on phones as far as i know, it logs gps route then uploads when you connect to home wifi e: also the underground route is probably not underground but consumer gps being bad.
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:it's just metadata what's the harm
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at least the data is in a vacuum and isn't being corroborated by people who were at the bases: https://twitter.com/svblxyz/status/957703976014761984
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cheese-cube posted:random data without corroboration or attribution is essentially garbage. making dumb assumptions based on the same data without corroboration or attribution is also stupid. this is super simple ya'll yeah, we get it: you played mgs2
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lol, wapo just went all  BREAKING NEWS over the strava thing.
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cheese-cube posted:random data without corroboration or attribution is essentially garbage. making dumb assumptions based on the same data without corroboration or attribution is also stupid. this is super simple ya'll I feel that reducing the number of possible locations from literally everywhere in the country to a small handful of clearly marked candidates is usable intel.
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breaking news, app designed to track your location and movement, tracks your location and movement
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cheese-cube posted:random data without corroboration or attribution is essentially garbage. making dumb assumptions based on the same data without corroboration or attribution is also stupid. this is super simple ya'll you may be surprised to learn that the threshold of confidence in information required for action in an intelligence context is much lower than it is in a legal context
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i can't believe people already forgot iraq got bombed over some aluminium tubes
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Truga posted:i can't believe people already forgot iraq got bombed over some aluminium tubes It wasn't the aluminum tubes that brought us there, friendo.
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i can tell you with absolute certainty that every us military institution has people running outside basically daily around the world. senior officers have a hard on for running and there are formation runs and organized PT everywhere that isn't an active warzone, and even then a good number of them are still doing organized PT.
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this data is worthless garbage, it doesn't have ANY verrit id numbers attached
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the whole point of verrit is to forget that such a useless stupid thing exists and you had to go and spoil things and remind us
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Look, you don't know who it is okay, it could be anyone
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Midjack posted:you may be surprised to learn that the threshold of confidence in information required for action in an intelligence context is much lower than it is in a legal context yeah you gotta remember these are mostly people who think chelsea manning is a traitor for leaking information about how the mercenaries the us hires treat the sandbox like one of those shooting video games where there's no real penalty for blasting civilians or putting a jdam through an elementary school or just generally loving the region up for the another decade
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Subjunctive posted:are clandestine military forces at a civilian facility going to jog around the base in formation every morning? maybe do push-ups together in the courtyard? knowing the US military... yeah probably cheese-cube posted:you could get that same intel but with real attribution using a pair of binoculars and patience try making a heat map of that though that we can point at and laugh, bet it'd take you a while 
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Truga posted:i can't believe people already forgot iraq got bombed over some aluminium tubes all i remember about the lead-up to the iraq war was an SNL sketch mocking the UN inspector for allowing the iraqis to pretend like they needed to get ready before being inspected and how this obviously meant they had nukes and were being coy about it
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Universe brain : the places that show up well on the heat map are distractions from the real bases
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fishmech posted:Universe brain : the places that show up well on the heat map are distractions from the real bases Multiverse brain: lizard people don't exercise
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https://www.axios.com/trump-team-debates-nationalizing-5g-network-f1e92a49-60f2-4e3e-acd4-f3eb03d910ff.html didn't see this one posted , apparently* trump maybe wants to build a single 'hardened' 5G network that would then get wholesaled to carriers so that the carriers don't build one with chinese components *could be bullshit
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Trimson Grondag 3 posted:https://www.axios.com/trump-team-debates-nationalizing-5g-network-f1e92a49-60f2-4e3e-acd4-f3eb03d910ff.html the trump administration nationalizing the cell network would be hilarious.
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Midjack posted:the trump administration nationalizing the cell network would be hilarious. the ghost of bell will rip him limb from limb before that happens
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Progressive JPEG posted:so municipal internet except for cell networks? brought to you by whichever cell company has been doing the most bribery of the trump administration so probably verizon
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you can build cell towers into the wall, so the entire southern border will have great internet speed! this way it can also be used to fund the wall with funds earmarked for broadband rollout projects
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Great so the wall will be title 2 and have net neutrality.
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Volmarias posted:It wasn't the aluminum tubes that brought us there, friendo. mah steel beams
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Pikavangelist posted:brought to you by whichever cell company has been doing the most bribery of the trump administration exactly, so you will have a state mandated monopoly telco network, built by one of the incumbents with the secondary goal of inconveniencing its competitors, designed from a restricted list of vendors (maybe a Euro vendor thrown in to make the WTO happy), with enabling surveillance built in as a design goal. i foresee no security challenges.
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