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Potato Salad
Oct 23, 2014

nobody cares


Pikavangelist posted:

brought to you by whichever cell company has been doing the most bribery of the trump administration

so probably verizon

Comcast would buy it to enter directly into mobile broadband

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canis minor
May 4, 2011

Microsoft disables Spectre mitigation: http://www.securityweek.com/microsoft-disables-spectre-mitigations-due-instability

quote:

Microsoft has confirmed that Intel’s patches cause system instability and can in some cases lead to data loss or corruption. Update KB4078130 released by the company over the weekend for Windows 7, Windows 8.1 and Windows 10 – for both clients and servers – disables the mitigation for CVE-2017-5715.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

Trimson Grondag 3 posted:

https://www.axios.com/trump-team-debates-nationalizing-5g-network-f1e92a49-60f2-4e3e-acd4-f3eb03d910ff.html

didn't see this one posted , apparently* trump maybe wants to build a single 'hardened' 5G network that would then get wholesaled to carriers so that the carriers don't build one with chinese components

*could be bullshit


quote:

Why it matters: We’ve got our hands on a PowerPoint deck and a memo — both produced by a senior National Security Council official — which were presented recently to senior officials at other agencies in the Trump administration.

"Trump wants"

"A staffer proposed to other staffers"

Workaday Wizard
Oct 23, 2009

by Pragmatica
what does a hardened 5g network mean anyways? if the user can connect to it it’s not hardened

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

what does a hardened 5g network mean anyways? if the user can connect to it it’s not hardened

hardened against dirty foreigns obviously

leper khan
Dec 28, 2010
Honest to god thinks Half Life 2 is a bad game. But at least he likes Monster Hunter.

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

what does a hardened 5g network mean anyways? if the user can connect to it it’s not hardened

it means US can spy on it and China deffo* can’t spy on it.

*probably still can

duz
Jul 11, 2005

Come on Ilhan, lets go bag us a shitpost


it means china has to use usa's backdoors instead of their own

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010

Shinku ABOOKEN posted:

what does a hardened 5g network mean anyways? if the user can connect to it it’s not hardened

it means a telecom CEO convinced the dumbest Trump staffer they could find that China had better technology than America did, so the government has to build all the best technologies to beat them so Trump can win Cold War II, and then maybe sell those technologies to other countries or something. also, Trump would be able to put his name on it just like Eisenhower did with the highway system. also, America can't have self-driving cars or virtual reality or "the Massive Internet of Things" without good 5G. also, China is winning the "AI algorithm battles", and if they dominate the internet that means they win militarily!

the actual presentation is in the article and it's kinda bonkers

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Main Paineframe posted:

it means a telecom CEO convinced the dumbest Trump staffer they could find that China had better technology than America did, so the government has to build all the best technologies to beat them so Trump can win Cold War II, and then maybe sell those technologies to other countries or something. also, Trump would be able to put his name on it just like Eisenhower did with the highway system. also, America can't have self-driving cars or virtual reality or "the Massive Internet of Things" without good 5G. also, China is winning the "AI algorithm battles", and if they dominate the internet that means they win militarily!

the actual presentation is in the article and it's kinda bonkers

or it means someone on tv news said "hardened network" too many times and convinced the dumbest person in the white house to ask for it

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
My fellow Americans. We are facing a Kaggle gap

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

Cocoa Crispies posted:

or it means someone on tv news said "hardened network" too many times and convinced the dumbest person in the white house to ask for it

maybe trump thought it was actual boners and not just virtual boners

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

being hard on crime is good

walls are hard

muscles are hard

winning is hard

clearly soft is the enemy

viruses are software

security vulns are caused by bugs in software

someone must convince trump to give a speech condemning all software

Subjunctive
Sep 12, 2006

✨sparkle and shine✨

Cocoa Crispies posted:

or it means someone on tv news said "hardened network" too many times and convinced the dumbest person in the white house to ask for it

this right here

The_Franz
Aug 8, 2003

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

korean dmz is also fun

i wonder who the one guy using it pyongyang is?

bob dobbs is dead
Oct 8, 2017

I love peeps
Nap Ghost

The_Franz posted:

i wonder who the one guy using it pyongyang is?

they let chinese peeps in north korea if they wanna study korean or something. also russian peeps

Shame Boy
Mar 2, 2010

and they let in reporters at certain specific times if they want to show off how fantastic everything is

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

key takeaway: he's dead now

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

oh, poo poo, i forgot nk doesn't shoot people unless they have certain and legally binding proof, nm, he's just fine, this was all just great

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong
North Korea lets in a ton of idiot tourists from all over

Main Paineframe
Oct 27, 2010
ASSUMPTION: Whoever leads in technology and market share for 5G deployment will have a tremendous advantage toward ushering in the Massive Internet of Things, machine learning, artificial intelligence, and thus the commanding heights of the information domain.

DISCUSSION: 5G is a fundamental shift in wireless infrastructure. More like the invention of the Gutenberg press than the move from 3G to 4G, it will move the world into the information age. Everything from automated cars and aircraft to advanced logistics and manufacturing to true AI enhanced networked combat. Most communication on the network will move from mobile devices to machine to machine (M2M) traffic. This will help accelerate machine learning and AI development.

The challenge: Can we flip the script? Can the U.S. conduct a moonshot with secure 5G deployment, and steal the lead position for dominating the information domain?

anthonypants
May 6, 2007

by Nyc_Tattoo
Dinosaur Gum
tried to get to this but https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/ is throwing an "ERR_SPDY_INADEQUATE_TRANSPORT_SECURITY" error in chrome

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

Works fine on Safari (Glorious)

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Main Paineframe posted:

ASSUMPTION: Whoever leads in technology and market share for 5G deployment will have a tremendous advantage toward ushering in the Massive Internet of Things, machine learning, artificial intelligence, and thus the commanding heights of the information domain.

DISCUSSION: 5G is a fundamental shift in wireless infrastructure. More like the invention of the Gutenberg press than the move from 3G to 4G, it will move the world into the information age. Everything from automated cars and aircraft to advanced logistics and manufacturing to true AI enhanced networked combat. Most communication on the network will move from mobile devices to machine to machine (M2M) traffic. This will help accelerate machine learning and AI development.

The challenge: Can we flip the script? Can the U.S. conduct a moonshot with secure 5G deployment, and steal the lead position for dominating the information domain?

what does 5g mean in this context? m2m/iiot traffic is waiting on slower networks not faster ones

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

hobbesmaster posted:

what does 5g mean in this context? m2m/iiot traffic is waiting on slower networks not faster ones

cell network generations and any name like "cdma" or "lte" you'd recognize if you don't work on cell radios are a marketing term

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

hobbesmaster posted:

what does 5g mean in this context? m2m/iiot traffic is waiting on slower networks not faster ones

post-LTE

the cell phone companies have extremely muddied this water by identifying LTE as separate from and better than 4G but 5G refers to networks that no one has begun constructing yet

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

cdma/lte mean things to people working with cell radios but they’re not specific

cdma will be gone soon at least. everything in the US should be lte of some category in a few years

pseudorandom name
May 6, 2007

anthonypants posted:

tried to get to this but https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/ is throwing an "ERR_SPDY_INADEQUATE_TRANSPORT_SECURITY" error in chrome

iirc, Windows Update uses TLS integrity but not encryption, which is forbidden by the HTTP/2 spec

so, you know, typical Microsoft quality web development

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

haveblue posted:

post-LTE

the cell phone companies have extremely muddied this water by identifying LTE as separate from and better than 4G but 5G refers to networks that no one has begun constructing yet

beyond lte? who is going to sell you service for a wireless 1gbps link? (lte category 8 or 17,18)

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

hobbesmaster posted:

cdma/lte mean things to people working with cell radios but they’re not specific

cdma will be gone soon at least. everything in the US should be lte of some category in a few years

Nah 3g networks are staying up til like 2030 or so. It was/is 2g networks that are being shut.

haveblue
Aug 15, 2005



Toilet Rascal

hobbesmaster posted:

beyond lte? who is going to sell you service for a wireless 1gbps link? (lte category 8 or 17,18)

the US government, apparently

Truga
May 4, 2014
Lipstick Apathy
sounds like communism

BangersInMyKnickers
Nov 3, 2004

I have a thing for courageous dongles

hobbesmaster posted:

cdma/lte mean things to people working with cell radios but they’re not specific

cdma will be gone soon at least. everything in the US should be lte of some category in a few years

is anyone doing voice over lte at this point? last I checked that was still going over gsm/cdma voice channels because of performance and efficiency issues

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

fishmech posted:

Nah 3g networks are staying up til like 2030 or so. It was/is 2g networks that are being shut.

cdma activations stop June 30 of this year for Verizon
hspa/umts att activations stop December 31

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

is anyone doing voice over lte at this point? last I checked that was still going over gsm/cdma voice channels because of performance and efficiency issues

it’s required for certification by Verizon and at&t now, phones without VoLTE will be cutoff at the same time as the rest of the non lte networks

Cybernetic Vermin
Apr 18, 2005

do you know the definition of lte though? what i learned from the media was basically that it would try to fix some hardware choices to make upgrade paths much cheaper

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

BangersInMyKnickers posted:

is anyone doing voice over lte at this point? last I checked that was still going over gsm/cdma voice channels because of performance and efficiency issues

if at&t is calling their volte product "HD Voice" then yeah they're doing it

Cocoa Crispies
Jul 20, 2001

Vehicular Manslaughter!

Pillbug

Cybernetic Vermin posted:

do you know the definition of lte though? what i learned from the media was basically that it would try to fix some hardware choices to make upgrade paths much cheaper

LTE is whatever the firm that owns the trademark wants it to be

flakeloaf
Feb 26, 2003

Still better than android clock

Cocoa Crispies posted:

if at&t is calling their volte product "HD Voice" then yeah they're doing it

sounds better if you're wearing those yellow glasses

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Cocoa Crispies posted:

LTE is whatever the firm that owns the trademark wants it to be

they’re called 3GPP which used to stand for “3g partnership project”. it’s basically an organization of all the world’s telecoms.

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Just-In-Timeberlake
Aug 18, 2003

hobbesmaster posted:

they’re called 3GPP which used to stand for “3g partnership project”. it’s basically an organization of all the world’s telecoms.

there's got to be at least one time a year when all these fuckos get together in room

and yet people continue to suicide bomb weddings and churches

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