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I'm still going through a DS9 rewatch so watch TOS so I don't accidentally spoil you
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Windows 98 posted:I just finished up TNG the other day. I had never seen an episode of Star Trek before. I dabbled a few episodes of TOS before deciding to move to TNG, and am ultimately glad I ended up watching TNG first. I watched every episode in order. At first I was a bit weary and ready to be dismissive, but TNG has placed itself in my top shows of all time now that I’m finished with it. I'm going to go against the grain and say TOS. You don't have to watch the whole thing, but certain episodes, like Balance of Terror and Errand of Mercy, might help provide some context for what comes later (not for DS9, but TNG-era Star Trek). DS9 is a solid choice, but I have to put a vote in for TOS because it's the series that started it all.
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Jan 29, 2018 06:36
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Windows 98 posted:I just finished up TNG the other day. I had never seen an episode of Star Trek before. I dabbled a few episodes of TOS before deciding to move to TNG, and am ultimately glad I ended up watching TNG first. I watched every episode in order. At first I was a bit weary and ready to be dismissive, but TNG has placed itself in my top shows of all time now that I’m finished with it. Watch "The Trouble with Tribbles" from TOS and then watch DS9. Not a joke.
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Jan 29, 2018 07:19
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Delthalaz posted:Ah that explains it. I was thinking Wes had to be a huge loser to study his whole life with space engineers and nanite projects but still struggle to get admitted to Starfleet while Tasha has no formal education and just gets in. Also hard to imagine Worf studying that hard but whatever. Dog_Meat posted:Bit earlier in the thread, but... let's not forget that early Worf pulled a phaser on a viewscreen. There must be some kind of fast track for the special kids Yeah, it's not a coincidence that the bridge of the Ent-D at the start of TNG has a Klingon, a non-Fed Human, a half Betazed, a blind man and the Federations only sentient android. It's pure advertising propaganda targeted at any other species they come across about how inclusive and lovely the Federation is.
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Jan 29, 2018 07:29
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Senor Tron posted:Yeah, it's not a coincidence that the bridge of the Ent-D at the start of TNG has a Klingon, a non-Fed Human, a half Betazed, a blind man and the Federations only sentient android. It's pure advertising propaganda targeted at any other species they come across about how inclusive and lovely the Federation is.
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Jan 29, 2018 08:02
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Just popping in to ask why isn't there more Shran, and more Andorians in general?
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Jan 29, 2018 09:03
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Fasdar posted:Just popping in to ask why isn't there more Shran, and more Andorians in general? Antenna aren't cheap.
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Jan 29, 2018 09:40
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Arglebargle III posted:I think it's very funny and apropos that the new Star Trek hero ship is black and gunmetal. They managed to hold back the first suicide bomber to episode 6 lol! Are you talking about the Discovery? It’s pretty bronze coloured, honestly. 
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Jan 29, 2018 11:08
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Show me any and all badass STO ships plz
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Jan 29, 2018 11:57
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That's a lotta things but bronze sure as poo poo ain't one of them.
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Jan 29, 2018 13:11
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Nessus posted:The (((Federation))) is trying to trick you into moving into a soft post-scarcity economy free of most material deprivations! Hahha I am totally going to steal the (((Federation)))
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Jan 29, 2018 13:15
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Looks bronze to me. Dark bronze, but bronze nonetheless.
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Jan 29, 2018 13:16
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It’s clearly gold pressed latinum that has been weathered by space, you philistines.
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Jan 29, 2018 13:21
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Kibayasu posted:Antenna aren't cheap. This was seriously it. The whole reason the Bolians were invented was because the Andorian makeup was expensive and they still wanted blue-skinned aliens now and then so the Bolians were created as a cheap alternative.
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Jan 29, 2018 14:24
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The_Doctor posted:Are you talking about the Discovery? It’s pretty bronze coloured, honestly. That dorsal view really shows the nacelle extensions, drat.
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Jan 29, 2018 14:46
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Peachfart posted:Also, DS9 is really good. Just give it some time, and understand that life is a bit different on the outskirts of the Federation compared to on the flagship. I mean they already got through TNG season 1 without wanting to give up, so DS9 season 1 should really be no problem. A "best of" list of TOS episodes might not be a bad intermission. There's certainly no need to watch all of it though. 90% of the episodes are kind of just riffing on the same basic concepts. Being a '60s show, they didn't really intentionally do "world-building". A few episodes are important, the rest are just for fun.
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Jan 29, 2018 14:50
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Watching all of TOS can be fun. You can get the cliff notes version sure, but there’s definitely some hidden gems that, accounting for taste, probably won’t make it onto many lists of Important Episodes, and a lot of the bad episodes are charming or entertaining in their own way. Even for the genuine stinkers, I think it helps one’s perspective on Trek as a whole to take the bad with the good, even if it means you wasted an hour of your life on “The Empath”. Fresh from TNG, I think DS9 is a better choice though. It’s a direct response to TNG and what they couldn’t or wouldn’t do there, so I think it is very natural to follow up a watch of TNG.
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Jan 29, 2018 15:02
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Make sure to watch The Paradise Syndrome. That episode totally holds up.
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Jan 29, 2018 15:11
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The main thing about DS9 getting so much hype now is to realize that it doesn't mean TNG was a bad show by any means, it just wasn't a serial
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Jan 29, 2018 15:14
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Jan 29, 2018 15:17
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shovelbum posted:The main thing about DS9 getting so much hype now is to realize that it doesn't mean TNG was a bad show by any means, it just wasn't a serial The longer form storytelling and character development are definitely a huge part of DS9's appeal, but I think it's also fair to say that it has a better ratio of good vs bad scripts than the other series, judged on a per episode basis. Also, the best thing about STO is that you can be a buttheaded alien.  VVVVV 
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Jan 29, 2018 15:51
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I don't know, slap some blonde hair on there and he would look more like Beavis
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Jan 29, 2018 15:52
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Cythereal posted:This was seriously it. The whole reason the Bolians were invented was because the Andorian makeup was expensive and they still wanted blue-skinned aliens now and then so the Bolians were created as a cheap alternative. Ironically Evolution/Natural selection is not wholly unlike this either....
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Jan 29, 2018 17:50
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Why not just sprinkle individual TOS episodes in while you're going through DS9? Not everything has to be a binge watch, jesus.
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Jan 29, 2018 18:39
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Wikipedia Brown posted:The longer form storytelling and character development are definitely a huge part of DS9's appeal, but I think it's also fair to say that it has a better ratio of good vs bad scripts than the other series, judged on a per episode basis. Also lol at the TMP-style uniform.
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Jan 29, 2018 18:40
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:I'm going to go against the grain and say TOS. You don't have to watch the whole thing, but certain episodes, like Balance of Terror and Errand of Mercy, might help provide some context for what comes later (not for DS9, but TNG-era Star Trek). I'm thinking about going through the must-watch episodes of TOS. What others are there?
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Jan 29, 2018 18:54
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Why not just sprinkle individual TOS episodes in while you're going through DS9? Not everything has to be a binge watch, jesus. This is the best way. ESPECIALLY given DS9's rocky first season (not more so than TNG, but still)
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Jan 29, 2018 18:56
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I'm thinking about going through the must-watch episodes of TOS. What others are there? My own personal list -- though I should mention I'm 4 episodes away from finishing my own watch-through. I could try to separate these into "actually good", "camp value", "so bad it's good" but it really all kind of blends together with this show. It can be entertaining for all of the above reasons, except when it isn't.
And then when you're in the mood for "so bad it's bad", check out The Alternative Factor.
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Jan 29, 2018 19:23
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I watched Spock's Brain a few weeks ago after hearing about it in this thread and it was a masterpiece Brain and brain, what is brain??? cheetah7071 fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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Jan 29, 2018 19:26
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I couldn't tell if you included the one with space Abraham Lincoln
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Jan 29, 2018 19:26
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I'm thinking about going through the must-watch episodes of TOS. What others are there? Probably almost everyone would agree on: Where No Man Has Gone Before Amok Time Mirror Mirror City on the Edge of Forever Trouble with Tribbles Space Seed Balance of Terror Errand of Mercy The Naked Time Devil in the Dark The Menagerie Doomsday Machine Journey to Babel The Tholian Web Personally like these ones also: Squire of Gothos The Ultimate Computer Bread and Circuses All Our Yesterdays The Man Trap The Enemy Within Corbomite Maneuver Day of the Dove Galileo Seven A Taste of Armageddon Who Mourns for Adonais A Piece of the Action Specter of the Gun Dagger of the Mind Conscience of the King WTF is this, so bad it’s good stuff: Shore Leave Plato’s Stepchildren Catspaw Arena The Omega Glory Spock’s Brain Enterprise Incident The Savage Curtain What Are Little Girls Made Of The Apple Gamesters of Triskelion I, Mudd Wolf in the Fold skasion fucked around with this message at 19:34 on Jan 29, 2018 |
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Jan 29, 2018 19:28
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Add in A Piece of the Action E: refresh before post 
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Jan 29, 2018 19:28
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Al Borland Corp. posted:I couldn't tell if you included the one with space Abraham Lincoln I haven't seen it yet, as an adult at least, so it's possible it should be in there. I figured if I'm gonna make a list at all I should try to include only one or two each of the "godlike being" or "Earth-like planet" genre to keep things varied. The ones where you can basically swap a few words in the script, I tried to choose the best example.
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Jan 29, 2018 19:33
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Sir Lemming posted:I haven't seen it yet, as an adult at least, so it's possible it should be in there. This one is godlike being but apart from Abe Lincoln also has Surak and Kahless and Ghengis Kahn so it's pretty big on Vulcan and Klingon lore.
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Jan 29, 2018 19:38
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Al Borland Corp. posted:This one is godlike being but apart from Abe Lincoln also has Surak and Kahless and Ghengis Kahn so it's pretty big on Vulcan and Klingon lore. Oh yeah, I wasn't addressing that one specifically, I was more referring to "A Piece of the Action". Which is kinda fun but "Bread and Circuses" is the same thing but ancient Rome and it's better.
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Jan 29, 2018 19:54
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Jeb! Repetition posted:I'm thinking about going through the must-watch episodes of TOS. What others are there? Sir Leming and Skasion have pretty good lists. I would add The Enterprise Incident, since I'm a bit surprised it didn't make either list. It's one of the third season's truly all-around good episodes, and not merely "funny" good like, say, Spock's Brain.
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Jan 29, 2018 20:07
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I put it under so bad it’s good, which might be a bit harsh but eh. I like it, but it’s very fanservicey and the plot does not make much sense.
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Jan 29, 2018 20:14
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Booo to any TOS list that does not include A Piece of the Action
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