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Eela6 posted:Are you saying that all portrayals of guns in media are equally bad? Honestly I don't know much about the show but given the general formula of these moe things I'd imagine its largely nonviolent outside of slapstick whereas killing bites besides its campy but very graphic violence cold opens with a group of men dragging a teenage girl into a speeding van and attempting to rape her. It seems hypocritical to me to be so incredibly disgusted by what is probably a generic fanservice harem thing and fine with the latter as if 'real guns really kill people all the time' but real kidnappings and rapes aren't a big issue. For the record I thought killing bites was boring but fun and the other thing sounds like trash
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I mean honestly, it's fine in certain places and I might even like it. It's just not what I wanted or expected. Maybe I'll want to watch it some other time down the line. All I got from this thread before the trailer came on was "girls who are serious about gambling and sometimes scary" which is...a bit of an understatement, I feel.
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Phobophilia posted:isnt the chinese boatgirl ripoff doing well because the original is programmed like poo poo and wont even run on smartphones that everyone would otherwise use to play granblue or fgo Kancolle isn’t a very aggressive franchise and that helped Azur Lane get a foothold. But also just in general it’s a real easygoing mobage where you can p easily get all the ships for free, give or take a few based on luck. It has a lot of design values kancolle had, but executed better and attached to interactive gameplay. Also the character designs are personalized compared to Kancolle girls sharing uniforms within their classes and often looking like sets of sisters.
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Feb 2, 2018 03:37
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I don't see how you get that from the last page or two
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DisDisDis posted:Honestly I don't know much about the show but given the general formula of these moe things I'd imagine its largely nonviolent outside of slapstick whereas killing bites besides its campy but very graphic violence cold opens with a group of men dragging a teenage girl into a speeding van and attempting to rape her. It seems hypocritical to me to be so incredibly disgusted by what is probably a generic fanservice harem thing and fine with the latter as if 'real guns really kill people all the time' but real kidnappings and rapes aren't a big issue. For the record I thought killing bites was boring but fun and the other thing sounds like trash If you're trying to say "you are somewhat hypocritical in your standards for entertainment", sure, you got me. It's still gross. Fetishizing the machine of murder as a cute girl is gross, and it's not played as gross. It creeps me out.
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Knorth posted:I don't see how you get that from the last page or two If you're responding to me, I watched the trailer like 12 hours ago. The conversations prior to that in this thread weren't so in-depth.
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Oh okay, fair enough then
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For people who've seen both how do the kakwgurui manga and anime compare. The nail ripping and stuff was all there in the manga but somehow none of it seemed deserving of the reactions the anime has elicited
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I don't think they're very different except the anime made some of the faces even crazier.
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Xinder posted:I mean honestly, it's fine in certain places and I might even like it. It's just not what I wanted or expected. Maybe I'll want to watch it some other time down the line. Now that I think about it a little bit, it wasn't that funny a joke.
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It's cool. I just finished season 2 of Love Live and I'm wondering if my best option for watching the movie is actually buying it on Steam, because right now that's looking like my best option.
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DisDisDis posted:For people who've seen both how do the kakwgurui manga and anime compare. The nail ripping and stuff was all there in the manga but somehow none of it seemed deserving of the reactions the anime has elicited the anime having sound effects and not going as fast as you could read made it a little more gross for me Also the anime gets rid of nail girl flicking people off like 5 times during the treasurer fight and that makes me incredibly mad
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Feb 2, 2018 04:25
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There are some good bugs in episode 1 of Kokkoku
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Eela6 posted:If you're trying to say "you are somewhat hypocritical in your standards for entertainment", sure, you got me. You can wanna watch what you wanna watch that's fine. I'm completely unbothered by some problematic things in media and very bothered by others and a lot of the time I couldn't give you a great reason why the two are different. You seem like, morally outraged that this thing exists at all though and theres a big inconsistency for me in being morally outraged by the anthropormization of a tool for violence that strips it of its violent significance (and its sexualization in the process) but not by the glorification of violence in general and exploitative use of sexual violence in another show. How many times can I say violence in a paragraph. People can have whatever preferences they like but I think they should be consistent about what they think is morally wrong to portray in media. (I'm getting this from your uh adjective use but sorry if I've misinterpreted you)
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I like the look of the weird Kokkoku monster and this neat end-card
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also worth noting guns often exist in wildly different contexts depending where you are. something like upotte seems more innocent to me having come out of japan than america
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Dismissing upotte in 2018 is an odd thing to get hung up imo
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https://files.catbox.moe/ljmoyd.webm Grandpa....
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DisDisDis posted:You can wanna watch what you wanna watch that's fine. I'm completely unbothered by some problematic things in media and very bothered by others and a lot of the time I couldn't give you a great reason why the two are different. You seem like, morally outraged that this thing exists at all though and theres a big inconsistency for me in being morally outraged by the anthropormization of a tool for violence that strips it of its violent significance (and its sexualization in the process) but not by the glorification of violence in general and exploitative use of sexual violence in another show. How many times can I say violence in a paragraph. People can have whatever preferences they like but I think they should be consistent about what they think is morally wrong to portray in media. (I'm getting this from your uh adjective use but sorry if I've misinterpreted you) I would like to be, and I think I am decent at it, but I can't separate myself from my cultural values and such. So there are probably things about the way I behave that are hypocritical to others. I'm not a perfect outside observer of morality, so all I can do is try my best! I don't know much about this show at all; it just struck me as particularly weird. I guess I have nothing more to say here.
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Eela6 posted:I don't know much about this show at all; Hell,
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Space Flower posted:Kancolle isn’t a very aggressive franchise and that helped Azur Lane get a foothold. But also just in general it’s a real easygoing mobage where you can p easily get all the ships for free, give or take a few based on luck. It has a lot of design values kancolle had, but executed better and attached to interactive gameplay. Also the character designs are personalized compared to Kancolle girls sharing uniforms within their classes and often looking like sets of sisters. Honestly, glancing at the wiki and seeing the artwork in Azur Lane gets an incredible "meh" from me. Yes, individual ships are technically more individualized within classes than Kancolle - which goes for a unified design scheme for sister ships - but there is basically no rhyme or reason at all. More importantly, a fair number of the designs themselves seem to be incredibly generic and greatly remind me of artwork from other Chinese games of this sort just with swapped equipment, right down to the poses being the same. As a side note, Azur Lane is apparently getting hit with massive censorship (art and other stuff) on the images in China, as the government is instituting new regulations regarding the "moral degeneracy" of various mobages (Azur Lane was specifically called out - possibly the instigator of this - and FGO is at least being reviewed as well). Skimming the wikis, AL certainly seems, uh, significantly lewder overall than Kancolle as well - especially the purchasable skins - which certainly would have helped with its popularity. So who knows how censorship will affect its popularity. Lord Koth fucked around with this message at 06:32 on Feb 2, 2018 |
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Eela6 posted:If you're trying to say "you are somewhat hypocritical in your standards for entertainment", sure, you got me. In Japan guns are a thing that only exist on TV and videogames so their attitude towards them is going to be wildly different from someone who lives in the US.
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Its not that deep people are horny for chicks in uniforms with fox ears
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And hell,
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Cat ears are better imo. And wolf ears are the most powerful
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Lord Koth posted:Honestly, glancing at the wiki and seeing the artwork in Azur Lane gets an incredible "meh" from me. Yes, individual ships are technically more individualized within classes than Kancolle - which goes for a unified design scheme for sister ships - but there is basically no rhyme or reason at all. More importantly, a fair number of the designs themselves seem to be incredibly generic and greatly remind me of artwork from other Chinese games of this sort just with swapped equipment, right down to the poses being the same. The censorship removed a lot of swimsuit outfits, which were often very lewd. It won’t really be a problem for the Japanese servers. Even before this happened Azur Lane already had de facto censorship because they would change the art and CG for the Chinese version specifically so they didn’t attract undue attention. But the Japanese server gets all the original assets, so for them it’s not a problem. I imagine a lot of Chinese players will just consider switching over to JP.
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VostokProgram posted:Cat ears are better imo. And wolf ears are the most powerful vostok with the most unsurprising normie taste as usual
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DisDisDis posted:vostok with the most unsurprising normie taste as usual gently caress you!!!!
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its not like fox ears are much more niche anyway. if you were really as avant-garde as you pretend to be, you'd be supporting snake ears
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Human ears and cat ears on the same person at the same time.
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VostokProgram posted:its not like fox ears are much more niche anyway. if you were really as avant-garde as you pretend to be, you'd be supporting snake ears  okay but how do you feel about head wings
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Shark ampoulles are where it's at. Until other people are at them, in which case it's bacterial flaggelum.
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yeah post pics smartass
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Space Flower posted:okay but how do you feel about head wings uh hello 
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DisDisDis posted:uh hello these ones on the other hand look dumb
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Lord Koth posted:Honestly, glancing at the wiki and seeing the artwork in Azur Lane gets an incredible "meh" from me. Yes, individual ships are technically more individualized within classes than Kancolle - which goes for a unified design scheme for sister ships - but there is basically no rhyme or reason at all. More importantly, a fair number of the designs themselves seem to be incredibly generic and greatly remind me of artwork from other Chinese games of this sort just with swapped equipment, right down to the poses being the same. AL is becoming popular because its kancolle except they remembered to make the game part good instead of bad. the thirst is just icing on the cake
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Well they remembered to put a game part in more than it being good.
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Space Flower posted:yeah post pics smartass I can't; that's why they're so niche and cool.
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