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Filthy Monkey posted:I would like to get myself capable with an assassin character, but I am not sure who to focus on. Suggestions for a mediocre newish player? So far, assassin feels like my weakest role. On a character like Kel-Thuzad I end up with laughable damage. Yeah, it used to have a seperate HP bar but apparently that was OP or whatever. Bogart posted:They are not going to cut away a such a defining trait as, well, their Trait, to those heroes. Nerf, yes, but there's been, like, all of one hero who got a new talent ever, and it's Hammer. The Lost Vikings, Tychus, Lt. Morales, ETC...
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Been playing Kharazim today, he's a lot of fun. Also I pulled this out of a common lootbox: Shame I don't play Abathur.
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Feb 2, 2018 19:22
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Feb 2, 2018 19:35
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They aren't going to remove anyone's AA. They've said they tried it before and it always feels bad, which is why even heroes like Probius have a vestigial AA.
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Feb 2, 2018 19:50
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Charge Hanzo players money for every arrow they shoot. Those things aren't cheap.
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Feb 2, 2018 19:58
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I guess it’s good to be able to play a ranged assassin, a melee and a mage one but you should just try all of them out and see what you click with.
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Feb 2, 2018 20:00
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Star posted:I guess it’s good to be able to play a ranged assassin, a melee and a mage one but you should just try all of them out and see what you click with. This is good advice, Valla and Greymane are always recommended but I don't like playing either of them, so they are not good picks for me. Same with ETC. It's easy for me to see why those are all good picks but they're just not fun for some people.
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Feb 2, 2018 20:14
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So I got the digital deluxe version of BfA, but i still don't have the mounts in HOTS. ANyone else running into this?
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Feb 2, 2018 20:17
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Kurieg posted:So I got the digital deluxe version of BfA, but i still don't have the mounts in HOTS. ANyone else running into this? I doubt they have added them into the game yet/made them available.
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Feb 2, 2018 20:21
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Ort posted:This is good advice, Valla and Greymane are always recommended but I don't like playing either of them, so they are not good picks for me. Same with ETC. It's easy for me to see why those are all good picks but they're just not fun for some people. I feel like I've had much better luck with warriors and supports than I have with assassins so far. I like ETC and Diablo for tanking, and have them both at 10+. Artanis (bruiser, I know), is straight up my favorite character to play. He is currently my highest leveled at 18. Lucio, Rehgar, Ana, and Lili have all served me reasonably well in the support role.
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Feb 2, 2018 20:56
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Yukari posted:Could you even use stormbow fast enough to keep serrated arrow stacks on a target? Maybe? If needed change duration to allow stacks, maybe make the scatter arrows shred armor to compensate.
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Feb 2, 2018 21:02
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Filthy Monkey posted:Artanis (bruiser, I know), is straight up my favorite character to play. If you like Artanis that much, give Butcher and Illidan a try. Once you get used to them they have the same sort of "unstoppable AA-based duelist" feel, albeit not as tanky.
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Feb 2, 2018 21:20
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A Windfury build thrall can poo poo out some pretty high AA damage and has incredibly sustain.
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Feb 2, 2018 21:31
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Those guys play completely differently from Artanis though. Thrall would be a much closer pick. Illidan and Butcher will instantly die if you gently caress up at all. Art will stand there and tank everything.
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Feb 2, 2018 21:34
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Artanis gets downed pretty drat fast if he isn't actively keeping his shield charge going. Same with Butcher using his mark the right way and Illidan knowing when to dodge/use evasion. All three can sustain themselves if they play right and get blown up if they don't (which goes for most characters honestly). It's just that Artanis is a bruiser, not an assassin, so he's obviously able to take more punishment.
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Feb 2, 2018 21:51
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Artanis was my favorite when I started playing and one hero I like in a similar way is Malthael. He can be unexpectedly durable and people underestimate him, especially 1v1 if they aren't familiar with him. Might be worth a try.
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Feb 2, 2018 22:08
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He's gotten everyone to 5, and why recommend heroes that do the same thing as one he likes... (Varian and Sonya are the most similar to arty anyways)
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Feb 2, 2018 22:21
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No Wave posted:He's gotten everyone to 5, and why recommend heroes that do the same thing as one he likes... (Varian and Sonya are the most similar to arty anyways) Because he asked about assassin recommendations and provided an example of a play style he likes, is my guess.
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Feb 2, 2018 22:26
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i could also be retarded
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Feb 2, 2018 22:46
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Did they fix Hamzos movement bug yet?
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Feb 2, 2018 23:06
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banned from Starbucks posted:Did they fix Hamzos movement bug yet? Nobody knows, he's always banned.
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Feb 3, 2018 00:00
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Sindai posted:They aren't going to remove anyone's AA. They've said they tried it before and it always feels bad, which is why even heroes like Probius have a vestigial AA.  lucifirius posted:That would be a very interesting change, they could probably leave all numbers as they are live and just remove his ability to auto attack, and he'd be better to play against. I would make other changes in addition to it - for instance, Storm Bow charging faster or having a higher minimum charge, or making Scatter Arrow split radially if it hits nothing. I don't want Hanzo to get gutted completely, just have a skill requirement equal to his impact. Kith fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Feb 3, 2018 |
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Feb 3, 2018 00:17
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Gah! I hate that fucker so much! Team league 2nd ban for life.
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Feb 3, 2018 01:00
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I don't think that counts, given that Gall is literally a turret attached to the dude that does the autoattacking.
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Shadowlyger posted:I don't think that counts, given that Gall is literally a turret attached to the dude that does the autoattacking. If anything, that makes Gall count more. Not only does Gall miss out on having an AA, he also can't move on his own. Characters without AAs only "feel bad" if their kit isn't designed to compensate. Considering that Hanzo has plenty of strength without factoring them in, it wouldn't be the end of the world if he had to rely entirely on abilities to get anything done.
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Feb 3, 2018 02:30
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I guess a skillshot DPS without AAs would counter all those oppressive low-mobility heroes.
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Feb 3, 2018 02:43
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Kith posted:If anything, that makes Gall count more No, it means literally the opposite of that. His entire gimmick is being attached to someone else.
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Feb 3, 2018 02:44
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Shadowlyger posted:No, it means literally the opposite of that. His entire gimmick is being attached to someone else. why does that mean he doesn't count?
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Feb 3, 2018 02:51
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All heroes have auto-attacks because not being able to kill a nearly dead minion next to you is extremely frustrating and feels very stupid. Also, Cho'Gall has an auto-attack.
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Feb 3, 2018 02:54
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No Wave posted:All heroes have auto-attacks because not being able to kill a nearly dead minion next to you is extremely frustrating and feels very stupid. quote:Also, Cho'Gall has an auto-attack.
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Feb 3, 2018 03:06
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Hanz is fun ignoring aa as much as possible already, giving him some payoff like more storms in exchange would be terrific. I know the people talking about it are doing so in context of a overall nerf but it'd be a fun gimmick to talent in to at level 4 or something.
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Feb 3, 2018 03:06
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Gall is part of a very unique gimmick that requires him to coordinate with the Cho player to act as a singular Cho'Gall. You can't play as Gall without a Cho. Sindai was obviously referring to standard heroes controlled by one person.
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Feb 3, 2018 04:13
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nerf vikings they have 3 autoattacks
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Feb 3, 2018 04:14
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It dawned on me the other day that now that the dumb launch bundles are a thing, hero crates are even more worthless because you have a 0% chance of getting a cool skin for that hero until they bother to make more.
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Feb 3, 2018 04:32
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Yeah are the not lovely looking maev skins a bundle? I'd like the sorta rustic looking ones but not if they're 800 bli$$ard bucks
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Feb 3, 2018 04:36
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watching grubby play maiev and he did umbral bind on brightwing, they blinked away, and the bind pulled them all the way back
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AlmightyBob posted:watching grubby play maiev and he did umbral bind on brightwing, they blinked away, and the bind pulled them all the way back Whoah. Time for bye bye qm chromies to get hosed hard.
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Kith posted:No, Cho has an auto-attack. Gall relies entirely on abilities and only uses right-click to cancel casting spells. Cho and Gall are the same character, you numpty, what do you not understand about this.
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appropriatemetaphor posted:Yeah are the not lovely looking maev skins a bundle? I'd like the sorta rustic looking ones but not if they're 800 bli$$ard bucks They are. Every hero's launch skin will be like that until they hopefully figure out that it's the stupidest possible way to sell something. I don't mind gem-only skins in theory, but only being able to buy them in bundles inflated with recolors is the worst. And unless I'm missing something (maybe because I so rarely see them and don't own any myself) they don't seem that much higher quality that they deserve the high price tag.
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Bogart posted:They are not going to cut away a such a defining trait as, well, their Trait, to those heroes. Nerf, yes, but there's been, like, all of one hero who got a new talent ever, and it's Hammer. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuInLSzY8rs
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