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Yvonmukluk posted:If you want Wolverine, then All-New Wolverine is already being published featuring the best of all possible Wolverines, Honey Badger. Also Laura Wolverine & Jonathon the Literal Wolverine are there too & pretty freakin' great. It'll help tide you over until Original Flavour Wolvie comes back. I don't care for Diet Wolverine, Caffeine-Free Wolverine, or Crystal Pepsi. I like my original-recipe Wolverine with the cocaine still in it.
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twistedmentat posted:I've hated Daken up until this series. I was just gonna ask the same thing. Blond guy's gotta be Angel, hiding his wings, as he's her boyfriend. I choose to believe white-shoes-longish-hair is Gambit because he's been a major part of her life at times. No idea who black gloves is though.
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Feb 3, 2018 21:03
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Scott and Jean are so boring. They're like a high school couple who stayed together long too far into their adult years just because. It's a predictable and trite pairing that's very much a product of the 60s. Leave Scott dead and let Jean live on her own for a good long while. I think an interesting setup would be Jean, Storm, and Emma acting as some sort of X-Men leadership triumvirate.
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Feb 3, 2018 22:45
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twistedmentat posted:I've hated Daken up until this series. Laura, Megan, Debby, Gabby, Jonathan, Daken, Old Man Logan, Gambit, Jubilee, Beast, Warren, Carol Danvers, and Julian Keller. The latter of whom is quite noteworthy because Taylor hasn't gone near Hellion thus far, and the dude also popped up in Phoenix Resurrection with Laura (but nothing came of it) and now he's attending her mother's funeral. Considering how they left off in Liu's series, something must be afoot.
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davebo posted:I don't care for Diet Wolverine, Caffeine-Free Wolverine, or Crystal Pepsi. I like my original-recipe Wolverine with the cocaine still in it. Well, if you want to make actively make your life worse via omission...
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davebo posted:I don't care for Diet Wolverine, Caffeine-Free Wolverine, or Crystal Pepsi. I like my original-recipe Wolverine with the cocaine still in it. Metalshark posted:Laura, Megan, Debby, Gabby, Jonathan, Daken, Old Man Logan, Gambit, Jubilee, Beast, Warren, Carol Danvers, and Julian Keller. The latter of whom is quite noteworthy because Taylor hasn't gone near Hellion thus far, and the dude also popped up in Phoenix Resurrection with Laura (but nothing came of it) and now he's attending her mother's funeral. Considering how they left off in Liu's series, something must be afoot. Kind of wish her Avengers Academy friends had also shown up, but I guess the two she was probably closest (Mettle & Finesse) are dead or no longer her friend, plus basically that entire series all been memory holed. Or her fellow New X-Men. I know she was close with Dust (is she still alive?) and Elixir (well, they were on X-Force together and he did talk her out of Terminator 2-ing herself during that period) in particular, but the others got along with her, too. Haven't they stated that the O5 might actually have to get back to the past Also, isn't Daken currently being used as a villain in Iceman right now? Seems weird to somehow square that circle with how he's being portrayed in ANW.
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The OP5 can't go back to the past. They tried, and there was another set of them there. Time uh.... found a way.
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Feb 3, 2018 23:54
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Aphrodite posted:The OP5 can't go back to the past. They tried, and there was another set of them there. That's exactly what you're meant to think...
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Aphrodite posted:The OP5 can't go back to the past. They tried, and there was another set of them there. yeah uh they addressed this in the last x men blue arc
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Feb 4, 2018 00:06
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Aphrodite posted:The OP5 can't go back to the past. They tried, and there was another set of them there. Yeah you gotta read the latest story arc
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Aphrodite posted:The OP5 can't go back to the past. They tried, and there was another set of them there. Yeah that wasn't a new O5, it was actually the evil X-Men from Battle of the Atom (because sure, why the hell not). Timey-wimey stuff happened. It was actually a pretty fun three-issue arc, except for the part where it was six issues.
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I don't know. Everything with the OG5 has kinda sorta rubbed me the wrong way. They have no reason to exist in the stories they're in and, as far as I'm concerned, haven't added anything to the universe. I know they're here to stay but someone needs to do something interesting with them. That being said, I'm all for Teen Scott. Love that kid and since Adult Scott is dead (for the moment) actually has a place to fill.
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AllNewJonasSalk posted:I don't know. Everything with the OG5 has kinda sorta rubbed me the wrong way. They have no reason to exist in the stories they're in and, as far as I'm concerned, haven't added anything to the universe. I know they're here to stay but someone needs to do something interesting with them. The O5 stuff is the stupidest god damned poo poo and has been from inception, they should never have brought them into the mainline.
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The concept bothers me too and I can't believe it's gone on this long. There have been some pretty nice moments with young Scott and like Young Jean is the biggest villain in the Marvel universe to me due to all her problematic telepathy but other than that I just find them fairly redundant.
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Feb 4, 2018 02:55
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Jean being more prying with her telepathy than actual telepath villains is great.
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Feb 4, 2018 02:56
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Yvonmukluk posted:You and I are enemies now. I make a lot of enemies. Get in line, bub. (That felt like something Logan would say, right?)
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The best (but ultimately inessential) use of the Original Time Displaced X-Men was the Dennis Hopeless run, which paired them with Idie and Evan and X-23 in a comic that was basically about the world telling a bunch of teenagers that This Is How Your Life is Destined To Turn Out and then following those teenagers as they cope with the destiny that their 'family'/'society'/'etc' is trying to push/force them towards. The fact that it's just a blip in the radar between whatever the hell Bendis was hoping to do with them and the way less interesting current "you're from another timeline/universe! You're kind of like uhh... Ultimate 2099 Mutant X Exiles uhhhhhhhhh we sure do have a lot of alternate realities!" means that it is more or less meaningless to the grand scheme of things, but it was the best possible take for the characters once you've accepted that they're there.
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Feb 4, 2018 06:01
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I had forgotten grown up Molly Hayes was a villain.
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Feb 4, 2018 18:10
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twistedmentat posted:I had forgotten grown up Molly Hayes was a villain. I wish I could forget all of that. The future Brotherhood was just terrible.
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twistedmentat posted:I had forgotten grown up Molly Hayes was a villain. Mind-controlled Molly Hayes. Mind-controlled.
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Feb 4, 2018 19:23
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The best part of the Mutant X issue with Bloodstorm wasn't even Bloodstorm, it was Cerebro being some sort of Douglock Deathlok.
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twistedmentat posted:I had forgotten grown up Molly Hayes was a villain. I don't accept this as reality so it's not canon anymore.
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Feb 4, 2018 21:17
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Is everyone forgetting she was under mind-control from Professor Xavier's evil son and immediately turned good when she was free from it?
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Covok posted:Is everyone forgetting she was under mind-control from Professor Xavier's evil son and immediately turned good when she was free from it? To be fair I try and forget most of what happened in that story. Mustache Colossus and Ice Gandalf were kinda cool though.
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Wanderer posted:Nah. Either they go straight back to romantic tension with Logan or they finally pull the trigger on her dating Storm. There isn't really a basis for anything else. I didn't even know there was a bullet in the chamber. What's the background here?
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Wheat Loaf posted:I didn't even know there was a bullet in the chamber. What's the background here? They've made out pretty frequently http://comicbook.com/2014/09/21/x-men-days-of-future-past-deleted-scene-or-is-it-a-blooper-revea/
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Feb 4, 2018 23:18
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No he said Jean and Storm.
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Aphrodite posted:No he said Jean and Storm. Oh that, Jean and Storm were really close friends any time they were on the team together.
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And everyone knows women can't be friends without hooking up.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I didn't even know there was a bullet in the chamber. What's the background here? I'm half-kidding. As with a lot of Claremont's friendships, there are a lot of scenes between the two of them that can easily be construed as romantic.
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I mean that's Claremont. Kitty seems to have been both into Illyana and Rachael.
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Aphrodite posted:And everyone knows women can't be friends without hooking up. When written by Claremont, this statement loses its sarcasm and becomes a flat statement of fact.
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Rachel and Kitty have genuine chemistry in their tenure together in classic Uncanny. Also Romita Jr. draws Rachel in a bunch of zoot suits and skinny ties and other super butch clothing. It's absolutely the Ship That Should Have Been.
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Like, here's Rachel's classic hero costume (suspenders!): And here she is in plain clothes hanging with Kitty (that tie!): 
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Feb 5, 2018 11:38
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In conclusion, while I will accept Kitty getting married to Colossus, I think it is sad that modern authors have not acknowledged Rachel's canonically stupendous gayness.
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Wanderer posted:I'm half-kidding. As with a lot of Claremont's friendships, there are a lot of scenes between the two of them that can easily be construed as romantic. I didn't think Jean and Storm had a huge amount of interaction in most of Claremont's stories. 
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Android Blues posted:In conclusion, while I will accept Kitty getting married to Colossus, I think it is sad that modern authors have not acknowledged Rachel's canonically stupendous gayness. Yea I was legit surprised when they decided to make Kurt and Rachael a thing. Did they not see how she was totally 80s lesbian coded? Even in an alternative version they don't do anything. At least in Secret Wars Illyana ran off with Leah. And this is her typical reaction to guys trying to pick her up 
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Rachel and Kitty is a bit complicated because Future Kitty was basically Rachel’s caretaker/mentor.
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I was very surprised to learn Claremont was going for Kitty and Rachel because I read all of his run on Excalibur and never got that impression; but I've also read a lot of Uncanny X-Men from the 80s, and I was sure he was going for Kitty and Illyana.
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I'm not that well versed in the xmen stuff and I've had a question for a while now. Who exactly is Rachel? As far as I can tell, she's sone sort of alternate reality daughter of Jean, who is pretty much the same age. Is that right? And there was something about them not existing at the same time. And she wears a lot of spikes for some reason. Anything else I should know about her? I know I could just look it up, but asking you guys is more interesting.
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