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Wikipedia posted:Camellia sinensis is an evergreen plant that grows mainly in tropical and subtropical climates.[50] Some varieties can also tolerate marine climates and are cultivated as far north as Cornwall in England,[51] Perthshire in Scotland,[52] Washington state in the United States,[53] and Vancouver Island in Canada.[54] TIL that you can actually grow tea in colder climates. Huh. I honestly didn't know that.
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Feb 8, 2018 14:41
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It's pretty funny that the guy who is super proud of Britain and British achievements is furious to find that there's an imperial/colonialst history to the greatest symbol of British colonialist leisure (an international black tea blend with a Union Jack on the box). It's pretty sad that he's outraged about it for the worst possible reason (i.e. that non-white people were involved in any way). (if it's not stdh)
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Feb 8, 2018 14:46
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https://twitter.com/normative/status/961327827323969542
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Feb 8, 2018 15:48
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We finally found the thing that will reverse Brexit.
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Feb 8, 2018 15:51
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I want people on my Facebook to shut up about the loving anthem.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:01
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Don Gato posted:The US doesn't really have that much baggage wrt Roma, that's more of a Europe thing. It's hard to believe, but most Americans really don't care about Roma one way or the other. I'm actually more surprised they listed Esmeralda as Romani instead of saying Gypsy, I've met a lot of people who never even realized that was a slur and not the mame of the ethnic group. From my experience Gypsy in the US means "privileged white girl who wants to identify as exotic and free" and they get mad when you point out that's racist.
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Feb 8, 2018 16:02
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Picnic Princess posted:I want people on my Facebook to shut up about the loving anthem. I dipped from Facebook and never looked back. I always get the “it’s the only way I keep tabs on [person I never interact with!]” Get an email address or something. Facebook makes relationships lethargic and pumps ads into the carcass. 
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Feb 8, 2018 16:27
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Feb 8, 2018 16:41
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Yeah that guy's got to be a parody. On his Twitter is an automated Amazon message saying he bought a porn DVD and he replies to it HOW DO I UNLINK MY AMAZON ACCOUNT FROM HERE? That said, his rants about muslims are indistinguishable from the comments section on any given UK news site, so...
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Feb 8, 2018 16:47
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Feb 8, 2018 17:09
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Picnic Princess posted:I want people on my Facebook to shut up about the loving anthem. Football season is over, how are they still on about it?
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Feb 8, 2018 17:11
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Henchman of Santa posted:Football season is over, how are they still on about it? Racism has no off-season.
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Feb 8, 2018 17:15
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Henchman of Santa posted:Football season is over, how are they still on about it? Canada. Changed a couple of words in the anthem and it's a huge loving national crisis and nothing else in the universe matters anymore.
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Feb 8, 2018 17:19
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Aramoro posted:They absolutely would not be considered white in the US. The Roma are one of the most racially oppressed groups in Europe, we have segregated schools in Eastern Europe who do not lets Roma children sit near their white ones. The US is all about racial segregation and suppression so it's unbelievable they would treat gypsies as white. My favourite was that White Wolf, an RPG company, made a loving supplement about the Mysterious and Magical GYPSY PEOPLE. That's the level we're operating on here. Weatherman posted:And yet when someone outside the US paints their face black... 
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Feb 8, 2018 17:27
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Picnic Princess posted:Canada. Changed a couple of words in the anthem and it's a huge loving national crisis and nothing else in the universe matters anymore. o/~ O Canada, our social justice land o/~
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Feb 8, 2018 17:32
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Picnic Princess posted:Canada. Changed a couple of words in the anthem and it's a huge loving national crisis and nothing else in the universe matters anymore. I had to look this up, because I'm not from Canada, and I'm honestly shocked it's as stupid as it is. They changed "all thy sons" to "all of us", and that's it. I honestly thought it was going to be some change to "god keep our land".
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Feb 8, 2018 17:33
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My cousin won't stop posting on Facebook about how terrible "in all of us command" is. I'd mock her more, but she's legit special needs, so.
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Feb 8, 2018 17:38
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“True patriot love in all of us humbly request but it’s like cool if you don’t, or have different definitions of love or whatever baby”
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Feb 8, 2018 17:38
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Deceitful Penguin posted:No, none of the travelers are especially marginalized or suffer active racism the way they do in Europe; it's deeply loving weird how they handle the thing. I'm not saying you (as a country) are racist towards the Roma, but if you had a significant number of Roma in your country you absolutely would be. Based on literally every other non-white ethic group you have there. So you have no Roma in the US, but you want an analogue to tell Esmeralda's story then it stands to reason you would use one of the oppressed minorities you do have.
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Don Gato posted:The US doesn't really have that much baggage wrt Roma, that's more of a Europe thing. It's hard to believe, but most Americans really don't care about Roma one way or the other. I'm actually more surprised they listed Esmeralda as Romani instead of saying Gypsy, I've met a lot of people who never even realized that was a slur and not the mame of the ethnic group. It's not from lack of trying:  And I didn't realize gypsy was a slur until I was well into adulthood and started thinking about the origins of calling of a ripoff/disappointment a "gyp".
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Feb 8, 2018 17:58
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Picnic Princess posted:Canada. Changed a couple of words in the anthem and it's a huge loving national crisis and nothing else in the universe matters anymore. Just go back to God Save the Queen, that will help the situation.
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Tip Shades posted:And I didn't realize gypsy was a slur until I was well into adulthood and started thinking about the origins of calling of a ripoff/disappointment a "gyp". thanks to context in books, for years I thought that "swarthy" meant "mean-looking" or "untrustworthy" instead of its actual meaning, "dark-skinned"
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Aramoro posted:I'm not saying you (as a country) are racist towards the Roma, but if you had a significant number of Roma in your country you absolutely would be. Based on literally every other non-white ethic group you have there. In america (and canada) racism is mostly based on appearance and language/accent rather than long running cultural conflicts. So many Travellers have the opportunity for their children to fully integrate and be "white," but only if they are willing to give up visible cultural markers.
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Feb 8, 2018 18:18
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Facebook Aunt posted:In america (and canada) racism is mostly based on appearance and language/accent rather than long running cultural conflicts. So many Travellers have the opportunity for their children to fully integrate and be "white," but only if they are willing to give up visible cultural markers. The Roma also just get confused with Hispanics and Native Americans because of the dark skin and hair. Here's an interesting article about it http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/features/2011/04/20114145828641489.html
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Feb 8, 2018 18:22
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Sagebrush posted:
This sounds like a challenge.
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World War Mammories posted:thanks to context in books, for years I thought that "swarthy" meant "mean-looking" or "untrustworthy" instead of its actual meaning, "dark-skinned" I somehow concluded it meant "hirsute"
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Feb 8, 2018 18:23
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Brawnfire posted:I somehow concluded it meant "hirsute" I actually thought that up until right now, jeez
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Feb 8, 2018 18:26
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Aramoro posted:I'm not saying you (as a country) are racist towards the Roma, but if you had a significant number of Roma in your country you absolutely would be. Based on literally every other non-white ethic group you have there.  ay yi yiiii
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Feb 8, 2018 18:36
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Everyone knows Roma are mythical creatures like elves and leprechauns and Eskimos.
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Feb 8, 2018 18:43
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World War Mammories posted:thanks to context in books, for years I thought that "swarthy" meant "mean-looking" or "untrustworthy" instead of its actual meaning, "dark-skinned" It means both (because the people who use it are afraid of black people and think they do look mean.)
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Feb 8, 2018 19:18
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We have a lot of Romani in Sweden, and many of them are beggars. When I worked as a tram conductor I was enforced to dismiss them from the tram (assuming they didn’t pay; sometimes they did). Hated doing it, but I quickly learned that if I tried to ignore them, other commuters would instantly chase me down and complain about it. I was really miserable working there, due to the way I was encouraged to treat poor people.
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Facebook Aunt posted:In america (and canada) racism is mostly based on appearance and language/accent rather than long running cultural conflicts. So many Travellers have the opportunity for their children to fully integrate and be "white," but only if they are willing to give up visible cultural markers. Fun fact: Canada’s hate speech laws either came about because of, or were first tested because of (I can’t remember or find the reference on mobile) Roma staying in Vancouver! People were making signs explicitly saying to "Kill Gypsies"
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BioEnchanted posted:It means both (because the people who use it are afraid of black people and think they do look mean.) It's connotation and denotation. The denotation (exact meaning) of "swarthy" is "dark-skinned." The connotation from years of use (implication) is "mean-looking/untrustworthy". Like how "egghead" technically just means smart, but the implications are insulting.
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Feb 8, 2018 20:13
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My internal personal definition of "swarthy" has always been bronze-skinned, hirsute, and swashbuckling. Zorro is swarthy. Sinbad (literary figure) is swarthy. Bollywood heroes are swarthy.
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Feb 8, 2018 20:28
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Sucks to your personal definition: that only applies to things you write and only read yourself.
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Feb 8, 2018 21:01
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letthereberock posted:Everyone knows Roma are mythical creatures like elves and leprechauns and Eskimos. When I lived in Europe I went to a conference about discrimination towards Roma and similar groups. When I posted about it on Facebook several of my friends back in the States expressed surprise that it was an ethnic group, they thought gypsy was just a name for families of poor nomadic merchants without any ethnic connotations at all. Also, it's amazing how quickly a group of white Europeans turns into a Klan meeting when Roma get brought up behind closed doors. I'm a white dude from the rural Midwest and even I was surprised at how quick and hard that poo poo comes out.
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Soviet Commubot posted:
Behind closed doors? poo poo - you will see it in these forums! “You Americans are a bunch of racists! I can’t believe how you treat your minorities!” “Don’t you Europeans treat the Roma like poo poo?” “That’s different! The Roma really are worthless!”
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Deceitful Penguin posted:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3716530/
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