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Scrolling down through this account’s feed. I see the same video posted, but claiming the US is bombing the SAA.
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Feb 8, 2018 06:39
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It still amazes me how low these people will go in their attempts to show children are complicit in faking chemical attacks, among other things https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/961511442481664000
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Some of the SDF offensives were literally 50:50 US SOF and SDF fighters (or 500:500 in the case of the fight for tabqa dam iirc) so a retaliatory attack shouldn't be a big surprise. If the US attacked back, they probably hit Americans.
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Feb 8, 2018 10:46
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That sounds like a highly exaggerated percentage, and we saw the same response with the whole al-Tanf fiasco where Iran sent a few waves of militiamen to die meaningless deaths. Whenever the US draws a line, Iran/Syria/Russia just can't help themselves. They consider it a challenge, even when that line is something like "don't use chemical weapons on civilians." They were probably told exactly what would happen if they did exactly what they did and then they did it anyways. And lo and loving behold, they got wrecked.
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Feb 8, 2018 11:12
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One of the newest tricks in open source investigation, lining up bloodstains from mass executions to satellite imagery: https://twitter.com/EliotHiggins/status/960979000733716480 https://twitter.com/iBRABO_com/status/955880592993935360
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Feb 8, 2018 11:28
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Why would the SAA be wasting valuable troops attacking the SDF East of the Euphrates? Has there been any reasoning suggested? Even aside from the antagonizing-the-US angle I would have thought those troops would have far more utility being used in Idlib at the moment.
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Feb 8, 2018 13:45
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Blut posted:Why would the SAA be wasting valuable troops attacking the SDF East of the Euphrates? Has there been any reasoning suggested? They want the oil the US pushed the SDF to prioritize capturing during the rush to DeZ. Assad and his allies were counting on that oil wealth to be able to reconstruct the country after he wins, and the US decided not to allow that.
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Feb 8, 2018 14:48
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Darkman Fanpage posted:TSK keeps losing tanks to ATGMs. ✌ Looks like an M60 facing away from the ATGM crew. The top of a hill is a pretty exposed spot to park a tank.
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Feb 8, 2018 15:43
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Brown Moses posted:One of the newest tricks in open source investigation, lining up bloodstains from mass executions to satellite imagery: This is some wizard poo poo BM
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Feb 8, 2018 17:16
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wild https://twitter.com/LucasFoxNews/status/961617576848740352 hope they dont try to explain this one to trumbo
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Feb 8, 2018 17:25
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HorrificExistence posted:wild That's a lot of firepower to kill 100 guys.
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HorrificExistence posted:wild That seems like the kind of briefing Trump would actually enjoy and pay attention to
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HorrificExistence posted:wild Lol did they just shell/bomb a camp with horrible accuracy for 3 hours or something? Like all 100 were toast within 15 mins but a bunch of pilots wanted flight hours and some marines wanted to usah da booma
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Feb 8, 2018 17:47
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They should have just dropped gold bricks on their heads to kill them, and they might have saved some money.
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Sinteres posted:They want the oil the US pushed the SDF to prioritize capturing during the rush to DeZ. Assad and his allies were counting on that oil wealth to be able to reconstruct the country after he wins, and the US decided not to allow that. They might want the oil in the long-run, but the SAA is in no position to make that sort of advance currently. I just can't see the effort being expended on this being approved from high when Assad is currently racing to reduce Idlib before Turkey gets too much of a foothold there as well. I wonder if it might have been a local leader chancing his arm with the advance? Either way I'd guess it won't be happening again any time soon, based on the scale of the US response.
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Blut posted:They might want the oil in the long-run, but the SAA is in no position to make that sort of advance currently. I just can't see the effort being expended on this being approved from high when Assad is currently racing to reduce Idlib before Turkey gets too much of a foothold there as well. I wonder if it might have been a local leader chancing his arm with the advance? If the US had for some reason stayed out of it (which was never going to happen), I think Assad could probably have scrounged up enough militias to make a real go at it while the YPG is distracted in Afrin and is nervous about the northern border of Rojava. The SDF hasn't exactly been winning stunning victories over ISIS in that part of the country lately, and the oil fields are more important to the long term survival of the regime than Idlib. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 18:06 on Feb 8, 2018 |
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Feb 8, 2018 18:04
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aphid_licker posted:This is some wizard poo poo BM i'm so proud of our greatest living forums
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Feb 8, 2018 18:06
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The IMF is trying to neoliberalize and gently caress up Tunisia, the only country that came out relatively stable out of the arab spring: https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jan/17/imf-tunisia-people-rioting-2011-economic-reforms https://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2018/02/protests-in-tunisia-over-imf-promoted-policies-for-good-reason.html This is probably going to have predictable results.
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FAUXTON posted:Lol did they just shell/bomb a camp with horrible accuracy for 3 hours or something? Like all 100 were toast within 15 mins but a bunch of pilots wanted flight hours and some marines wanted to usah da booma
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Feb 8, 2018 18:23
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A Coalition spokesman said they can't confirm the number of casualties, so the real number may be considerably under 100. Supposedly they didn't target vehicles that turned around, so it's not like they were actually trying to wipe out those forces; just to stop the attack. That's fair, but I don't understand why such an array of forces were necessary for it.
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tekz posted:The IMF is trying to neoliberalize and gently caress up Tunisia, the only country that came out relatively stable out of the arab spring: I don't know much about the relationship between the IMF and countries and whether it's a poison pill or worth doing, but this article has a lot of weird mostly-incorrect statements like "Price increases have been deepened by a rise in VAT and consumption taxes – the most unprogressive forms of taxation, paid by everybody no matter what they earn". The the increase in consumption tax/VAT was 1% across the board which is regressive, but the big increases were for things like chocolate (+10%) wine, alcohol (+30%), watches (+50%), designer perfumes and makeup (+30%), and other luxury imports that will almost exclusively affect the richest echelons of Tunisian society. It is absolutely possible to do progressive VAT taxes, and most countries do this. Also a lot of those things with a 1% VAT increase simply aren't going to be paid by anyone, e.g. anything produced in Tunisia and sold in a souk or market, which is the majority of anything that a poor Tunisian will buy. That article is also about 3 weeks old. There's absolutely nothing going on in Tunisia anymore wrt protests. The protests were vastly, vastly, vastly overstated and exaggerated in Western media. My wife is Tunisian, and also I was literally staying next door to where protests were supposedly going on for the 7th anniversary of the revolution on the main avenue in central Tunis, and although I wasn't standing around there all day, what I saw at 10am was like 200 people chanting for a few minutes and that was it. There were some smaller but significant protests further out, apparently, although nothing even remotely vaguely close to 7 years ago.
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tekz posted:The IMF is trying to neoliberalize and gently caress up Tunisia, the only country that came out relatively stable out of the arab spring: Has there been any country on the record that has actually done better and not worse after the IMF starts their greedy poo poo?
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Huh: https://twitter.com/delfoo/status/961578336727322624 quote:A loyalist statement regarding last night's fighting with #SDF in #DEZ If that's the reason, I think everyone can see how well that logic panned out. Sinteres posted:A Coalition spokesman said they can't confirm the number of casualties, so the real number may be considerably under 100. Supposedly they didn't target vehicles that turned around, so it's not like they were actually trying to wipe out those forces; just to stop the attack. That's fair, but I don't understand why such an array of forces were necessary for it. https://twitter.com/sayed_ridha/status/961547291852066816 quote:25 martyred and wounded from the Syrian Army, after the international coalition aircraft targeted the concentration of forces between Khasham-al-Tayya east of Deir ez-Zor
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CrazyLoon posted:Has there been any country on the record that has actually done better and not worse after the IMF starts their greedy poo poo? When the alternative has been default, sure. In any case that option always exists should they prefer it to the IMF.
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Saladin Rising posted:Yeah looks like this was intentional, the SAA wanted to do a quick attack and get the oil fields while the SDF was distracted elsewhere. A theory on reddit posited that the SAA figured they could get away with this attack based on the US's rather muted response to Afrin. If I had to put money on it, I'd say that whoever ordered the attack assumed they'd be sending men to die, but figured the worst case scenario would be that they'd make the US prove that their intentions in Syria go beyond fighting ISIS. If by some miracle the US did decide to stand down, all the better for them. I'd be very surprised if there aren't further incursions just to continue testing our resolve over time (particularly if Turkey joins in from the north), even if the strong response this time may deter them for a bit. The regime attacking the ISIS pocket that remains on the eastern side of the Euphrates would be another interesting avenue of attack if they wanted to try that. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 18:55 on Feb 8, 2018 |
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Feb 8, 2018 18:53
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Saladin Rising posted:Sayed Ridha (generally a pretty reliable source) puts the number of casualties at 25, which sounds a bit more realistic given this new information. He's a regime shill. The whole tweet is framed dishonestly to present the regime in the best light. Why would the casualty count be exempt? You guys need to ease up on the speculation and wait for some firmer details. You are operating on like 1% of the information the forces involved had.
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Sinteres posted:That's fair, but I don't understand why such an array of forces were necessary for it. Maybe it wasn't necessary, but for over a year nobody's been looking over the military brass' shoulder to keep them from going full Oorah, so any consideration of appropriate and proportional use of force has been thrown out of the window.
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steinrokkan posted:Maybe it wasn't necessary, but for over a year nobody's been looking over the military brass' shoulder to keep them from going full Oorah, so any consideration of appropriate and proportional use of force has been thrown out of the window. Oh yeah, I genuinely forget sometimes that the president decided he didn't want to be bothered running a war.
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steinrokkan posted:Maybe it wasn't necessary, but for over a year nobody's been looking over the military brass' shoulder to keep them from going full Oorah, so any consideration of appropriate and proportional use of force has been thrown out of the window. Certainly possible, but without actually seeing it its kinda hard to extrapolate a ton form just that list. Did they use mostly the AC 130, and then dropped a couples bombs from a few planes, and then just have the apaches ready if poo poo got worse? Did the artillery do a huge barrage or just fire a few shots as well? Or did they purposefully go overboard as a show of force to discourage further attacks?
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I believe y'all overestimating the deliberateness here. They probably hit the panic button and everything that was in the air aborted their missions and showed up. There's a protocol for it dating back to the Vietnam War at least.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:I believe y'all overestimating the deliberateness here. They probably hit the panic button and everything that was in the air aborted their missions and showed up. There's a protocol for it dating back to the Vietnam War at least. It would be a pretty big coincidence to have a hangar queen like the F-22 just happen to be hovering around in the area. Edit: In other news, that ISIS pocket in eastern Hama is almost completely gone now. One sign that the SAA (or their allies) are a hell of a lot more competent than they were earlier in the war is that when they cynically use ISIS as a wedge against the rebels, they're able to contain and nullify them now when they stop being useful instead of setting a fire that rages out of control. Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 20:06 on Feb 8, 2018 |
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:I believe y'all overestimating the deliberateness here. They probably hit the panic button and everything that was in the air aborted their missions and showed up. There's a protocol for it dating back to the Vietnam War at least. Broken Arrow in Vietnam, although there appears to be some debate if it's an actual thing or was a one time code phrase. It's used now for stuff involving nuclear weapons.
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Sinteres posted:Oh yeah, I genuinely forget sometimes that the president decided he didn't want to be bothered running a war. Well it's not like if he was running the war, it'd be any better
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Imagine thinking the US wouldn't do everything within its power to secure oil and gas fields.
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fighting curroption and reforming the country by doubling down on waste and frivolous spending. Basically the exact same stupid things as before. more pointless tall towers:- https://www.reuters.com/article/us-saudi-tower/building-worlds-tallest-tower-going-ahead-after-saudi-corruption-purge-idUSKBN1FR2E3 More palaces for lovely new city:- https://www.reuters.com/article/saudi-neom-palaces/update-1-saudi-awards-contracts-to-build-palaces-in-huge-new-business-zone-idUSL8N1PY22T Google plans on building a data center and technology hub which means jack poo poo because you cant innovate technologically in a consumerist country that has zero freedom of thought and universities that suck rear end and cant educate people well enough to make a difference. https://www.wsj.com/articles/google-parent-alphabet-and-aramco-in-talks-to-build-tech-hub-in-saudi-arabia-1517495498 Karen Elliot House writes an insanely paternalistic and racist article as to why people like me are a bunch of spoiled brats and that it's the people who have acted as our biggest obstacle to our own fulfillment and humanity and ability to succeed are the only people who can drag us into the 21st century. https://www.wsj.com/articles/saudi-reforms-get-a-boost-from-google-1517777813 I cant see the article anymore but there's a choice quote in there that I wanted to point out, I love it when western jornalists whose mouths are wrapped firmly around the governments dick lectures people like me who've had to witness their lives and the lives of people around them being humiliated, hampered, oppressed and having their potential cut at the knees by the government and having their ambitions and speech curtailed for decades purely because of the regime we live under tell me that I'm the spoiled stupid brat. yeah that's right, I'm the problem. please shut up, Karen.
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These hacks have all been bought and paid for. They know what their job is, and it isn’t producing critical analysis. Wall Street Journal’s modus operandi is telling the money what it wants to hear.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:I believe y'all overestimating the deliberateness here. They probably hit the panic button and everything that was in the air aborted their missions and showed up. There's a protocol for it dating back to the Vietnam War at least. i like to think it's a literal big red button
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quote:The attack by Erdogan, “is a blatant act of aggression against a peaceful and democratically-governed region and population,” the signatories said, noting that such an act of aggression can only be carried out by Turkey with the approval of the U.S., Russia and Iran. "The U.S and international community have a moral obligation to stand behind the Kurdish people now. We call on U.S. officials and the international community to guarantee Afrin’s stability and security and prevent further Turkish aggression from within Syria and across the Syrian border.” https://twitter.com/bobfrombrockley...90%7Ctwterm%5E1 This is going over very well with Syrian Arabs on Twitter as you might imagine. Luckily the western left doesn't have any credibility left to lose in Syria. Volkerball fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Feb 8, 2018 |
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Chomsky's tried to have it both ways for decades, blaming the US for every death that's occurred both when it did and didn't intervene in various conflicts. He's one of those guys who finds a kernel of truth and then can't help seeing exactly what he wants/expects to see everywhere. To be fair, he's been critical of US support for Turkey in the face of repeated crimes against the Kurds for decades, so he's at least consistent on that.
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