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There's no way Venom is in any way up there with Spidey, I would bet 50% at most. Just think of a wine mom. They would know Spidey. They would absolutely not know Venom. Expound out from there and you'll see that remains true.
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Phylodox posted:I think most people of a certain age have at least some vague idea of who Venom is. Anyone older than, say, 40-45 would probably look at him and just think “What did they do to Spider-Man?” Even if they're older than that, if they had kids that grew up during the 90s, they probably recognize Venom from the Spider-Man cartoon and SNES games and Marvel vs. Capcom and etc. They might not know him by name but they probably recognize him as the edgy black Spider-Man with the teeth and all the spittle. (Now that I think about it, Marvel vs. Capcom probably did a lot to keep Venom in people's minds)
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Feb 8, 2018 20:41
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:My favourite part of every new superhero movie announcement is when fans immediately identify which storyline of which series is being adapted, down to like the individual issue. Ah, you're referring to Amazing Spider-Man #437 of course.
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I’m just talking about iconography. I’m sure people would have a vague idea who the toothy big eye guy is. His look is probably high up there.
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:Even if they're older than that, if they had kids that grew up during the 90s, they probably recognize Venom from the Spider-Man cartoon and SNES games and Marvel vs. Capcom and etc. They might not know him by name but they probably recognize him as the edgy black Spider-Man with the teeth and all the spittle. I think that’s overestimating how much parents notice or, more likely, retain about the media their kids consume. If you were to ask, say, my dad who Venom is, you’d get a blank stare, despite the fact that I was into comics when I was younger. I’m sure he’s seen Venom and heard me talk about him, but with that kind of stuff, for most parents it’s in one ear and out the other.
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Phylodox posted:I think that’s overestimating how much parents notice or, more likely, retain about the media their kids consume. If you were to ask, say, my dad who Venom is, you’d get a blank stare, despite the fact that I was into comics when I was younger. I’m sure he’s seen Venom and heard me talk about him, but with that kind of stuff, for most parents it’s in one ear and out the other. I'm huge into Spider-Man and my wife didn't know who Venom was. She asked me yesterday when she heard about the trailer dropping so I guess she didn't pick up on anything about him in all the years we've been together. Oh well, we don't have any kids or major assets so the divorce should go pretty smoothly.
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Phylodox posted:I think that’s overestimating how much parents notice or, more likely, retain about the media their kids consume. If you were to ask, say, my dad who Venom is, you’d get a blank stare, despite the fact that I was into comics when I was younger. I’m sure he’s seen Venom and heard me talk about him, but with that kind of stuff, for most parents it’s in one ear and out the other. Superman, Batman, Spiderman and the Hulk are probably the only superheroes I would guarantee my 80 year father could name despite never reading a comic in his life. Perhaps add Captain America and Wonder woman to that list if I really grilled him on it.
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Feb 8, 2018 20:59
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Guy A. Person posted:I dunno I feel like you can abstract the spider logo, they're obviously using the eyes as more of the logo for the movie so they might just have some kind of white pattern to break up the black. Feel like they might do the rorschach constantly shifting pattern thing for the body.
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Phylodox posted:I think that’s overestimating how much parents notice or, more likely, retain about the media their kids consume. If you were to ask, say, my dad who Venom is, you’d get a blank stare, despite the fact that I was into comics when I was younger. I’m sure he’s seen Venom and heard me talk about him, but with that kind of stuff, for most parents it’s in one ear and out the other. yeah but if you went "y'know, the spider-man that's black and all gross-looking and has the teeth?" your dad would probably be like "OHHHHH THAT GUY"
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Feb 8, 2018 21:17
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:yeah but if you went "y'know, the spider-man that's black and all gross-looking and has the teeth?" your dad would probably be like "OHHHHH THAT GUY" More like "YOU MEAN OBAMA AND HIS WEB OF LIES?!"
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Feb 8, 2018 21:19
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:yeah but if you went "y'know, the spider-man that's black and all gross-looking and has the teeth?" your dad would probably be like "OHHHHH THAT GUY" At least Venom has an interesting gimmick. 90% of all other Spider-man villains pretty much follow the same pattern: *average dude get into a science accident or makes a super suit.* "Sweet, now I have vaguely animal themed powers. Time to use them irresponsibly and rob a bank or something." *suddenly Spider-man swings in* "Not on my watch, pal." *villain shakes fists at him* "Curse you, Spider-man!"
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:yeah but if you went "y'know, the spider-man that's black and all gross-looking and has the teeth?" your dad would probably be like "OHHHHH THAT GUY" I guarantee you he would not. His knowledge of Spider-Man stops at the Paul Soles series, if even that (and he couldn’t tell you who Paul Soles was).
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I can't wait for the symbiote to mind meld with Eddie and appear to him as a sexy woman in a vision edit: the symbiote is actually the Spider-Man of its planet
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lol Holy poo poo at Bay doing DC. Lobo is gonna be insane.
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That's a pretty good match. Lobo is basically toxic masculinity incarnate, and so is Bay. It's going to be amazing satire whether intentional or not
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Feb 8, 2018 21:48
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Bay seems like he's probably into some very weird poo poo, sexually.
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Feb 8, 2018 22:02
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That's Pretty perfect
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Actually he's an ephebophile look it up
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Al Borland Corp. posted:That's a pretty good match. Lobo is basically toxic masculinity incarnate, and so is Bay. It's going to be amazing satire whether intentional or not I used to think it was unintentional, but Pain & Gain is a good movie that knows exactly what it’s doing. So this makes sense, is my point. I agree.
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Oh gently caress yeah.
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Lol @ the idea that a company would follow an epic panic rejection of Snyder over e-nerd reactions by hiring Michael Bay
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Feb 8, 2018 22:34
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Don't people go to Bay movies in droves despite their perceived quality or lack thereof?
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Detective No. 27 posted:Could we get a superhero movie in a Southwest setting for once? Constantine Xealot posted:I used to think it was unintentional, but Pain & Gain is a good movie that knows exactly what it’s doing. It'll really depend on who does the script. Bay with a bad script is intensely dull.
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hiddenriverninja posted:Don't people go to Bay movies in droves despite their perceived quality or lack thereof? Not so much anymore at least in America. The latest transformers didn't even do that great overseas
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Gatts posted:Why is it always some brooding dude. Why can’t it be Chevy Chase and his fame went on vacation in San Fran and whoops symbiote happened. I'd pay money for tickets to Fletch-Venom.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:Not so much anymore at least in America. The latest transformers didn't even do that great overseas Not great by Transformers standards by still cleared $600 million.
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Burkion posted:That's Agreed. Jesus it's perfect. I hope to God they let Bay take the JL characters/actors too just because I want to see them handled by Bay.
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Al Borland Corp. posted:That's a pretty good match. Lobo is basically toxic masculinity incarnate, and so is Bay. It's going to be amazing satire whether intentional or not Ah, I see we're still wondering whether Bay deliberately made any of the 10 feature films he's made or if he somehow lucked into a two decade career.
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Snowman_McK posted:Ah, I see we're still wondering whether Bay deliberately made any of the 10 feature films he's made or if he somehow lucked into a two decade career. No, just whether they are meant as satire or not. They are successful for their aesthetic, bombasity, and spectacle either way, not for audiences going "Hmm ooh yes I see what he did there"
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Snowman_McK posted:Ah, I see we're still wondering whether Bay deliberately made any of the 10 feature films he's made or if he somehow lucked into a two decade career. Are you implying that he can't be toxic masculinity incarnate because his films are successful because 
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Neo Rasa posted:Are you implying that he can't be toxic masculinity incarnate because his films are successful because No. Al Borland Corp. posted:No, just whether they are meant as satire or not. They are successful for their aesthetic, bombasity, and spectacle either way, not for audiences going "Hmm ooh yes I see what he did there" They are.
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Hat Thoughts posted:Lol @ the idea that a company would follow an epic panic rejection of Snyder over e-nerd reactions by hiring Michael Bay Maybe they'll hire George Lucas next!!
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Feb 8, 2018 23:07
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Lessail posted:Maybe they'll hire George Lucas next!! once again, inshallah
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Brother Entropy posted:once again, inshallah e: Thought you said T'challa. Disregard.
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Lessail posted:Maybe they'll hire George Lucas next!! This would be incredible.
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