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pospysyl
Nov 10, 2012



I was watching the Summoning Salt video on SMB3 and I wondered: how did someone discover the wrong warp?

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DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness
What's the origin of the prhase "wrong warp", anyway? I mean, it's perfectly pithy and describes what it is really well, but it has a strange cadence to it. Did a Japanese runner put it that way first or something?

heehee
Sep 5, 2012

haha wow i cant believe how lucky we got to win :D
The warp is wrong

pyromance
Sep 25, 2006
I think it was from OoT with farore's wind and when people played around with the glitch more, they eventually found the one that makes the current any % route possible. There were like 3 days of just nonstop crazy things going on with that game when that came out.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


Todd Rogers Did Nothing Wrong.

Nep-Nep
May 15, 2004

Just one more thing!
Todd Rodgers did hundreds to several million more things wrong than the other highest ranking wrong people.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


stop cheatshaming todd rogers.

Rubellavator
Aug 16, 2007

TG has not gone to bat for billy, in fact they even collected some supporting evidence against him. Maybe they learned their lesson.

Suspicious Dish
Sep 24, 2011

2020 is the year of linux on the desktop, bro
Fun Shoe

pyromance posted:

I think it was from OoT with farore's wind and when people played around with the glitch more, they eventually found the one that makes the current any % route possible. There were like 3 days of just nonstop crazy things going on with that game when that came out.

Wrong Warp had been in MM parlance for much longer for the grotto / fountain warps. I think it comes out of "Wrong Grab" where you grab the wrong item in platformer games.

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Rubellavator posted:

TG has not gone to bat for billy, in fact they even collected some supporting evidence against him. Maybe they learned their lesson.

They confirmed with their own hardware how the screen renders in MAME vs Board so its probably a foregone conclusion now that Billy gets banned.

tiistai
Nov 1, 2012

Solo Melodica

Suspicious Dish posted:

Wrong Warp had been in MM parlance for much longer for the grotto / fountain warps. I think it comes out of "Wrong Grab" where you grab the wrong item in platformer games.

Death warping, save warping and so on have been established terms for a long time. I figured it's simply taking that terminology plus the fact that the warp is taking you to a "wrong" place.

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



pospysyl posted:

I was watching the Summoning Salt video on SMB3 and I wondered: how did someone discover the wrong warp?

Probably the TAS community, staring at RAM addresses until they found they could be manipulated in specific ways to do things, like all the ACE stuff in SMW.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Whatever they do to Billy, they can't take away being the first human to run a perfect game of Pacman

Pharohman777
Jan 14, 2012

by Fluffdaddy
Heres a nice bit of speedrun humor.
Try and spot all the 'tricks'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_9bvkaMI7k

Pharohman777 fucked around with this message at 01:58 on Feb 9, 2018

ArfJason
Sep 5, 2011

tiistai posted:

Death warping, save warping and so on have been established terms for a long time. I figured it's simply taking that terminology plus the fact that the warp is taking you to a "wrong" place.

this guy gets it.
it's just getting warped to a wrong place.

SeXReX
Jan 9, 2009

I drink, mostly.
And get mad at people on the internet


:emptyquote:
Its actually an acronym:
Walking, Roughly, On No Ground

You'd think that would be I relation to hovering tricks but nope, that's just how they name stuff

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Pharohman777 posted:

Heres a nice bit of speedrun humor.
Try and spot all the 'tricks'.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_9bvkaMI7k
All I can think of is
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FJAgmVrEL-I

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

Al Borland Corp. posted:

Whatever they do to Billy, they can't take away being the first human to run a perfect game of Pacman

There is questions that it was save stated on mame too

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Byolante posted:

There is questions that it was save stated on mame too

That one was done live at an event in front of journalists

SoftNum
Mar 31, 2011

Al Borland Corp. posted:

That one was done live at an event in front of journalists

I mean, if he can convince some people to fake swap boards for him, whos' to say what was in that cabinet?

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


It was at like, a famous arcade or something. Everyone else was running the same machine at the same event.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012
wow, so you're saying the whole arcade was in on it...

xamphear
Apr 9, 2002

SILK FOR CALDÉ!

Byolante posted:

There is questions that it was save stated on mame too
He did that live, on an arcade machine, just a short drive away from me: http://www.funspotnh.com/-Articles/pc-billymitchell.htm

The guy who owns Funspot is a far-right rear end in a top hat, but it's like the last arcade open around here since Pinball Wizard shut down.

xamphear fucked around with this message at 04:24 on Feb 9, 2018

Byolante
Mar 23, 2008

by Cyrano4747

xamphear posted:

He did that live, on an arcade machine, just a short drive away from me: http://www.funspotnh.com/-Articles/pc-billymitchell.htm

The guy who owns Funspot is a far-right rear end in a top hat, but it's like the last arcade open around here since Pinball Wizard shut down.

From what I read is the score wasn't done with refs around and took far longer than it should have to complete? And there is no continuous video of it?

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar
Perfect Pac-Man is mostly just memorizing patterns, and a long game could be explained away because the game has ways to effectively pause it if you want to go take a piss or get a drink or whatever.

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.
i run celeste now





https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbS70vNr7xs

fight me seckswrecks

edit: sorry this video has a really funny thumbnail

https://twitter.com/Succinct_Punchy/status/961914315535278080

SuccinctAndPunchy fucked around with this message at 11:47 on Feb 9, 2018

Venuz Patrol
Mar 27, 2011
http://store.steampowered.com/app/781220/Drakkhen/

:eyepop:

maou shoujo
Apr 12, 2014

ニンゲンの表裏一体

SuccinctAndPunchy
Mar 29, 2013

People are supposed to get hurt by things. It's fucked up to not. It's not good for you.



edit:

SuccinctAndPunchy fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Feb 10, 2018

Takoluka
Jun 26, 2009

Don't look at me!



Is madewint a real Twitter, and if not, make that right the gently caress now and run with it forever.

Stokes
Jun 13, 2003

Maybe Kris can come in, and we can throw M-80s at his asshole.
kosmicd12 is now 1 frame behind the smb record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q90YAdbZG6A

Zereth
Jul 9, 2003



Is this the version with the "I Love You" monsters?

synthetik
Feb 28, 2007

I forgive you, Will. Will you forgive me?

Stokes posted:

kosmicd12 is now 1 frame behind the smb record.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q90YAdbZG6A

What’s the ‘judges’ thing he talks about halfway through?

bebaloorpabopalo
Nov 23, 2005

I'm not interested in constructive criticism, believe me.

synthetik posted:

What’s the ‘judges’ thing he talks about halfway through?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5a06TSM7dK8&t=1450s

Here's Darbian explaining it in an interview he did with MitchFlowerPower about the record. The whole video is worth a watch if you're interested in the game and the tricks as a whole.

synthetik
Feb 28, 2007

I forgive you, Will. Will you forgive me?
Thanks! That’s really drat cool.

Violently Car
Dec 2, 2007

You are now entering completely darkness

Zereth posted:

Is this the version with the "I Love You" monsters?

All versions have Ms. Pots and Pans.

Groovelord Neato
Dec 6, 2014


odd question but are there any "solved" games. as in the world record is impossible to beat by another human. maybe a stupid question since it always seems like when a game is solved someone finds some new glitch or tech to beat it but i assume via tas it can be determined.

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


Pac Man is solved

fishmech
Jul 16, 2006

by VideoGames
Salad Prong

Groovelord Neato posted:

odd question but are there any "solved" games. as in the world record is impossible to beat by another human. maybe a stupid question since it always seems like when a game is solved someone finds some new glitch or tech to beat it but i assume via tas it can be determined.

Puzzle games where there's no randomization are probably solved. Like tasvideos just put up a TAS of boxxle 2 on the Game Boy, a game that's entirely sokoban puzzles and tiny text cutscenes every 10 stages or so. All the puzzles get solved with the best known solution in terms of moves and thus the best possible cuz moving tile to tile always takes the same time.

Obviously though, there isn't much of a competitive community around playing through a 3.5 hour perfect run for a game boy puzzle game.

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VikingofRock
Aug 24, 2008




Groovelord Neato posted:

odd question but are there any "solved" games. as in the world record is impossible to beat by another human. maybe a stupid question since it always seems like when a game is solved someone finds some new glitch or tech to beat it but i assume via tas it can be determined.

IIRC people have examined the Dragster assembly code and determined that the current speedrun record is the best score possible (and, perhaps more significantly, that the previous speedrun record was physically impossible and was thus the result of either cheating or a broken cabinet).

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