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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:(I went in a center-right guy and came out a moderate left guy, if that tells you anything). is this a peyronie's disease joke
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:(I went in a center-right guy and came out a moderate left guy, if that tells you anything). you're a centrist with bad opinions who stands for nothing
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Jan 24, 2018 18:19
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The Muppets On PCP posted:is this a peyronie's disease joke
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Jan 24, 2018 22:51
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Absurd Alhazred posted:She is running for Senate as an outsider, she's going to have to handle a lot worse than "uh.. what?" and Neera Tanden slams before this is through if she's to win.
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Jan 25, 2018 14:19
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Majorian posted:
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:I should be shamed. I'm ashamed of that part of my life, and I was definitely punished for it by the people I worked for. But it did teach me some valuable stuff about how the rich operate. (I went in a center-right guy and came out a moderate left guy, if that tells you anything). I'll adjust my original statement down by a LOT but you can't ignore that a lot of business is essentially just graft. I've had to work around the kid whose dad owns the company to the C-Level who doesn't do anything because he's invested in the company/friends with the CEO to 'stop what critical thing you're doing and do this thing for free for this customer because their cousin or something is a senator' on waaay to many occasions to ever come to the conclusion that the number is under 30%. And this is in the US where only 'a lot' instead of 'the vast majority' of all transactions are facilitated by out and out bribes.
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Jan 27, 2018 02:37
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Well,i also worked with the highest eschalons of various multinational companies,and found that most decision makers are actually narcisistic sociopaths high on their own farts who are fully aware they are running personal and/or global scams,on the various goverments,consumers,shareholders,workers or just the populace at large. To be fair ,these where european ceos and cfos and the like so the method they choose to grind everything they touched into fine dust in a botomless quest for money,power or revenge for perceived slights may be slightly diferent from your own experiences.
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Feb 2, 2018 20:29
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Feb 5, 2018 20:44
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Well yeah, and... wait a second.
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Feb 5, 2018 20:45
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Office Pig posted:Well yeah, and... wait a second. He does have "Zionist" in his Twitter profile, so presumably he's one of the "Israel is key to the future of my weird quasi-Christian fanfiction version of the end of the world" types.
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Feb 5, 2018 20:46
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https://twitter.com/pnehlen/status/960189202439852034 At least he decided to go all in.
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Feb 5, 2018 20:49
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I will be honest, "Paul Nehlen becomes an out and out Nazi" is not a plot twist I predicted based on his performance in 2016. I expected him to stay in the more covert Tea Party vein. I guess the primary will be interesting this year. 
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Feb 5, 2018 20:50
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The replies are people trying to defend Nehlen, great company Wohls been keeping.
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Feb 9, 2018 02:01
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If Hillary Clinton still has breath in her body she's going to run in 2020
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Feb 12, 2018 21:47
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Hollismason posted:If Hillary Clinton still has breath in her body she's going to run in 2020 Nah. She knows she has no support left to be the nominee. It would be nothing but an embarrassing defeat.
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Feb 13, 2018 00:22
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HRC has been doing everything a person who is running in 2020 would do, though.
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Feb 13, 2018 01:33
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Hillary will do far worse in 2020 than Bernie did in 2016 if she even officially runs.
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Feb 13, 2018 01:37
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What do Fox News and the bernout crew have in common? They're both pathologically obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Even now that she's less relevant than she has been since she was 25 years old, still they're obsessed. Nobody outside of Chappaqua wants HRC to be the Democratic nominee, you can relax now.
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Feb 13, 2018 01:45
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I don't care if she runs or not, I'm just saying...she's giving all the indications that she's running.
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Feb 13, 2018 01:54
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Trabisnikof posted:Hillary will do far worse in 2020 than Bernie did in 2016 if she even officially runs.  is about how the hillary rerunx3 would work out. WAR CRIME GIGOLO fucked around with this message at 08:23 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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Feb 13, 2018 05:53
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Ogmius815 posted:What do Fox News and the bernout crew have in common? They're both pathologically obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Even now that she's less relevant than she has been since she was 25 years old, still they're obsessed. It's more that she's making every indication, or just outright saying that she wants to be of import to the process in upcoming races. She's making herself noteworthy here, and it's got nothing to do with people being obsessed over her. She's putting herself out there and by god she needs to catch flak for it.
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Feb 13, 2018 08:48
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Ogmius815 posted:What do Fox News and the bernout crew have in common? They're both pathologically obsessed with Hillary Clinton. Even now that she's less relevant than she has been since she was 25 years old, still they're obsessed. please tell us more about burnouts and horseshoe theory. i bet you also think antifa are the real fascists too huh?
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Feb 13, 2018 09:26
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Condiv posted:please tell us more about burnouts and horseshoe theory. i bet you also think antifa are the real fascists too huh? It's not horseshoe theory, because that implies equal intellectual standing. It's that bernouts mindlessly parrot Fox News and got duped by anti-Clinton Russian propaganda.
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Feb 13, 2018 14:51
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SaTaMaS posted:It's not horseshoe theory, because that implies equal intellectual standing. It's that bernouts mindlessly parrot Fox News and got duped by anti-Clinton Russian propaganda. And the DNC got duped by pro Hillary propaganda. Either that or she really is super conniving and cut out the competition way beforehand is the only reason for such a small primary. If the next dem primary isn’t an 8-way knife fight we’re screwed.
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Feb 13, 2018 15:00
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SaTaMaS posted:It's not horseshoe theory, because that implies equal intellectual standing. It's that bernouts mindlessly parrot Fox News and got duped by anti-Clinton Russian propaganda. like "she is a weak candidate"
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Feb 13, 2018 17:33
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SaTaMaS posted:It's not horseshoe theory, because that implies equal intellectual standing. It's that bernouts mindlessly parrot Fox News and got duped by anti-Clinton Russian propaganda. Please cite one specific piece of Russian propaganda that you think duped "bernouts". Reminder: In Jan 2017, 52% of Dems believed that Russia directly tampered with vote tallies, a 100% verifiable conspiracy theory.
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Feb 13, 2018 17:36
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SaTaMaS posted:It's not horseshoe theory, because that implies equal intellectual standing. It's that bernouts mindlessly parrot Fox News and got duped by anti-Clinton Russian propaganda. What propaganda was that specifically?
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Feb 13, 2018 19:37
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Transplanting this from Trump thread:TheScott2K posted:"Structural barriers" like the person who gets more votes winning primaries, and there being an actual member of the Democratic Party with longtime support from minority communities in the race. Nope, but I do think Clinton's deeper fundraising network, the fact that the debates were scheduled in a way that put her campaign at an advantage, and things of that nature acted as structural barriers against Sanders' insurgent campaign. e: lol JeffersonClay posted:when leftists lose, it’s all due to the structural barriers. when democrats lose, it’s because they’re bad and everyone hates them. that’s pretty convenient Given how rarely leftists run in the U.S., thanks in part to the shifting of the Overton Window, yes - this is 100% correct, unironically. Majorian fucked around with this message at 23:14 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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Feb 13, 2018 23:06
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i think it's p funny to pretend structural barriers don't exist while the dem party is backing certain candidates over others in primaries. oddly enough, none of the supported candidates are leftist!
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Feb 13, 2018 23:30
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Condiv posted:i think it's p funny to pretend structural barriers don't exist while the dem party is backing certain candidates over others in primaries. oddly enough, none of the supported candidates are leftist! So what, self funded primaries and party support in the general is what you want?
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Feb 13, 2018 23:38
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Grapplejack posted:So what, self funded primaries and party support in the general is what you want? if the dccc is going to fund primaries, it should be funding all dem primary participants. the current situation where the dccc is funding their pick even when there isn't an incumbent dem is very clearly an institutional barrier
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Feb 13, 2018 23:43
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The fact that literally every stage of the American political process revolves around raising fistfuls of cash is a structural barrier to literally any worthwhile politics.
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Feb 13, 2018 23:49
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leftist candidates face structural barriers in primary elections. democrats face structural barriers in general elections. it is dishonest to assert structural barriers excuse leftist failures but not democratic failures
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Feb 14, 2018 00:53
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JeffersonClay posted:leftist candidates face structural barriers in primary elections. democrats face structural barriers in general elections. it is dishonest to assert structural barriers excuse leftist failures but not democratic failures sure. but hillary wasn't taken down by structural barriers, but because she was bad, unliked, and also massively incompetent. happy to help
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Feb 14, 2018 00:55
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the electoral college is a structural barrier, genius
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Feb 14, 2018 01:04
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JeffersonClay posted:the electoral college is a structural barrier, genius um, no
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the electoral college gives disproportionate weight to votes in low population states, which tend to be white and republican. it’s also inherently gerrymandered, because democrats are concentrated in states like New York and California. if those aren’t structural barriers then nothing is
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