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Crazycryodude posted:Victoria III is finally gonna get made but it's gonna have lootboxes and be optimized for tablets Victoria's Secret Gacha confirmed.
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I like Paradox so I'm going to be fully paranoid about any major changes at the top of the company, specially given the new CEO's background. Who knows, maybe despite her sordid past she has a passion for strategy games and "gets" the paradox model. Maybe she's in fact read all my posts I've ever made in paradox-related threads and will make the very wise CEO-level decision to hire me as an "ideas guy" to head up Cities Skylines 2 development and help wiz gut the tile/pop management system in Stellaris and finally clarify those ethos definitions. It's possible!!!
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Crazycryodude posted:Lootboxes. I swear to god they're adding lootboxes somewhere somehow. Make it so you can't buy expansions normally anymore. Instead you pay  or whatever and get a random DLC that could be the expansion you want or just something like a portrait pack. Also you can roll the same DLC multiple times and you can't gift or trade them with others.
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Feb 13, 2018 18:44
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Phlegmish posted:Yeah that's very suspicious I have an 89 year old great aunt who suffers from severe dementia and one of the few things she still enjoys (and remembers) is playing break open lottery tickets. So every week we will buy a large stack of the cheapest ones we can find so that she has something to amuse herself with. I hope Paradox breaks into the same market so I have something to entertain myself with once I reach that stage in my life, too. Edit: Gobblecoque posted:Make it so you can't buy expansions normally anymore. Instead you pay Psychotic Weasel fucked around with this message at 18:47 on Feb 13, 2018 |
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loot boxes are on the way out, legally and popularly, so they're probably right in saying that they're not gonna sell those they're definitely gonna be greedy and exploitative as gently caress though. expect a lot of "well if you think it's a ripoff just don't buy it" posts in the future
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Feb 13, 2018 18:48
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A Buttery Pastry posted:Preemptive denials are like the number one sign people are definitely going to do something. So what you're saying is that Vicky 3: Rome 2 is imminent?
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da beeper king BABY posted:So what you're saying is that Vicky 3: Rome 2 is imminent?
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Baronjutter posted:I like Paradox so I'm going to be fully paranoid about any major changes at the top of the company, specially given the new CEO's background. Who knows, maybe despite her sordid past she has a passion for strategy games and "gets" the paradox model. Maybe she's in fact read all my posts I've ever made in paradox-related threads and will make the very wise CEO-level decision to hire me as an "ideas guy" to head up Cities Skylines 2 development and help wiz gut the tile/pop management system in Stellaris and finally clarify those ethos definitions. It's possible!!! What new CEO? It's still the Wester fellow who's in charge, hell, he owns a third of the goddamn shares still. What the devil are you on about?
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Feb 13, 2018 19:36
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Prav posted:they're definitely gonna be greedy and exploitative as gently caress though. expect a lot of "well if you think it's a ripoff just don't buy it" posts in the future
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Feb 13, 2018 19:41
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Change is bad and scary and always leads to negative consequences, without fail, always. Every time. Definitely.
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Tomn posted:Change is bad and scary and always leads to negative consequences, without fail, always.
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Feb 13, 2018 19:54
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RagnarokZ posted:What new CEO? It's still the Wester fellow who's in charge, hell, he owns a third of the goddamn shares still. What the devil are you on about? He will step down in August, leaving every game designer in the company entirely unable to function until someone tells them how to make a game. It is a sad fact that Fred did all the design for all of the games himself, the rest of us are just for show.
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Feb 13, 2018 20:03
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Tomn posted:Change is bad and scary and always leads to negative consequences, without fail, always. HoI4 and Stellaris send their regards Tbh maybe paradox games as we knew them are dead and we are never getting anything like them again
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Feb 13, 2018 20:30
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ArchangeI posted:He will step down in August, leaving every game designer in the company entirely unable to function until someone tells them how to make a game. It is a sad fact that Fred did all the design for all of the games himself, the rest of us are just for show. You're all gonna get sacked and replaced by martian robots. ^^^^^ lol at people declaring HOI4 and Stellaris as "Bad Games™" in TYOOL 2018.
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Feb 13, 2018 20:35
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StarMinstrel posted:lol at people declaring HOI4 and Stellaris as "Bad Games™" in TYOOL 2018. 
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StarMinstrel posted:You're all gonna get sacked and replaced by martian robots. I declared that in 2016. 
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Feb 13, 2018 20:45
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stellaris will be good in two weeks with the major patch guys!! or maybe i'll get bored with it again two weeks afterwards. I'm not sure honestly.
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Zane posted:stellaris will be good in two weeks with the major patch guys!! or maybe i'll get bored with it again two weeks afterwards. I'm not sure honestly.
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AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:Awful, boring, unimaginative, and 100% player-hands-off space combat and stupendously stupid pop tile management will still be there; still a bad game. Don't worry, I have a frighteningly grognardy effortpost coming up on how to fix tiles for real this time 
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Feb 13, 2018 21:06
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I've never bothered with microing pop tile management and maybe if you didn't you'd have fun too. It's not like you even need to. The AI sure doesnt.
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Feb 13, 2018 21:40
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Demiurge4 posted:Don't worry, I have a frighteningly grognardy effortpost coming up on how to fix tiles for real this time "don't have tiles" All the effort post required
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Feb 13, 2018 23:27
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Demiurge4 posted:Don't worry, I have a frighteningly grognardy effortpost coming up on how to fix tiles for real this time It doesn't count unless it includes a literal orgasm while talking about Vicky 2
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Phi230 posted:HoI4 and Stellaris send their regards I bounced hard off HoI2, gave up fast on HoI3, and only started enjoying myself with HoI4. Also I personally consider Stellaris to be tied with V2 for best Paradox game. But maybe I’m just a filthy casual ruining Paradox games for the ~real fans~, who knows?
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Feb 13, 2018 23:31
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Stellaris is good, though it has some glaring flaws like the tile system that'll have to be ripped out. HoI 4, OTOH.....
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Feb 13, 2018 23:35
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Hoi4 is way more fun and with much greater potential than Hoi 2 and 3. Eu4 is way more fun and with much greater potential than Eu2 and 3. Oh no Paradox. Staaaph you are ruining my games
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I enjoyed HoI4 and Stellaris a ton. Everything in both games worked as I expected it to and found both to have gameplay that was challenging and rewarding. But maybe I'm just bad at map games, who knows.
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Crazycryodude posted:Stellaris is good, though it has some glaring flaws like the tile system that'll have to be ripped out. HoI 4, OTOH..... Yeah, pretty much the worst parts of Stellaris are the few elements that survived more or less unchanged from the pre-wiz design. They've been slowly gutting the game and rebuilding it, and I wish they had just gotten it right from the initial design rather than having to go in and fix mechanics one at a time through DLC's but overall it's a pretty ok game. Hoi4's air and sea combat are so bad I just can't, and the political side just isn't as fun as Hoi2. I think I'm just not the target demo for Hoi anymore though, I don't really care about the military strategy elements, I just want to create crazy alternative timelines where Czechoslovakia managed to rope the allies into an early war and annexed Austria, Hungary, and Croatia and somehow controls east and west germany and northern italy as puppets becoming a socialist central european superpower. Or how a neutral switzerland managed to opportunistically take over Italy while the axis were busy dealing with the allies, then raised a navy and carved out a huge african empire after the axis more or less conquered all of Africa because the allies forgot how boats work and is now a huge unaligned 3rd power between the western allies and soviet union.
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HoI certainly has the potential to be good but the utterly incompetent AI put me off it and I'm gonna give them a while to fix it before going back.
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HoI4 is a less extreme case of Civilization, but with the benefit of having pretty easy and straight forward multiplayer. The AI is fukken bad tho and so is the AI for the planner.
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ArchangeI posted:Have you considered that it might have something to do with wanting someone with experience running a large company through the years of its major growth when paradox is looking to grow massively over the next few years? Especially since she was never involved in the development side of her company and focused on operations and marketing? You know, the part of PDX that Fred ran? Note: Paradox is also rebooting White Wolf with a new version of Vampire: the Masquerade (which in pen and paper RPGs is Kinda A Big Deal). Paradox Development Studios (the part of the company this thread spergs about) is only a part of the larger borg. So it would make sense to not take a juvenile approach to this.... Phi230 posted:Tbh maybe paradox games as we knew them are dead and we are never getting anything like them again ...oh, OK then. Carry on.
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Baronjutter posted:I don't really care about the military strategy elements, I just want to create crazy alternative timelines where Czechoslovakia managed to rope the allies into an early war and annexed Austria, Hungary, and Croatia and somehow controls east and west germany and northern italy as puppets becoming a socialist central european superpower. Or how a neutral switzerland managed to opportunistically take over Italy while the axis were busy dealing with the allies, then raised a navy and carved out a huge african empire after the axis more or less conquered all of Africa because the allies forgot how boats work and is now a huge unaligned 3rd power between the western allies and soviet union. Is that really less of a thing in HoI4 than HoI2? Again, I admit I bounced off HoI2 so I can't gauge this very well myself, but from hearing about it I'd always understood that one of HoI2's big weaknesses was that if something derailed The War so that the right events failed to fire fire the AI pretty much shits the bed and becomes almost completely passive, relying solely on the player to drive events. Meanwhile, for the next big HoI4 DLC/patch, there'll be literal focus trees for Germany deposing the Furher and putting Wilhelm II/III on the throne, Czechslovakia can try to create a Balkan Entente to take on all comers, and there's nothing really stopping Switzerland from taking on the world. I will admit that making the wackier stuff happen basically involves going down focus trees, which isn't the most compelling gameplay - maybe that's your issue with it?
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Paradox Game Rankings EUIV CK2 pre-India Vicky 2 HOI4 HOI2/Darkest Hour Stellaris CK2 post-India EU3 March of the Eagles EU: Rome Vicky 1 Sengoku East Vs. West  HOI3 HOI3 is worse than a game that never even came out axeil fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Feb 14, 2018 |
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axeil posted:Paradox Game Rankings I think you forgot Magna Mundi, which is weird because it's at the top. Second is that HOI2 re-release that had a thousand provinces in Africa. Iron Cross?
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Feb 14, 2018 00:49
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I liked March of the Eagles for what it was. Kind of a neat
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Tomn posted:Is that really less of a thing in HoI4 than HoI2? More, if anything, but they said they weren't the target audience for HOI these days, and yeah, a series that's all about this one specific cluster of wars in this one specific decade really is not the same sort of platform for alt-history shenanigans that Paradox's other games are. axeil posted:Paradox Game Rankings Lol if you don't think Conclave made CK2 better than it's ever been* and lol if you don't think EUIV is slowly collapsing under the weight of all the extra systems they're grafting to it. I think it's pretty clear at this point that the modular DLC model worked pretty well for CK, where there were a whole load of other religions/regions/time periods they could just weld on to it with minimal fuss, but they're really struggling to adapt it to their more tightly constrained series. *The cult system in M&M was probably a mistake, I'll grant you.
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Yeah my dream Paradox game announcement would be something covering the end of EU4 to the cold war or so. Basically a long Vicky that goes into the WWII era in terms of technology but doesn't really have any scripted hitler or Vichy France because a game that starts in 1822 isn't going to end up resembling pre-war europe, but have a crisis and world war system that could create WWII-like wars and fascist-like revolutions and comintern-like organizations. Basically by the time you get to the 1930's you'll be well into kaiserreich levels of alt-history. Then slap a Stellaris converter at the end that will match up with the new pre-warp stellaris DLC pack that lets you start a stellaris game in in the early days of your civilization taking the first steps into exploring their local solar system along with a fun series of events and choices covering how your species unified their planet.
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Feb 14, 2018 01:15
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Ricky has never been topped u frickin jerk
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HoI4 isn’t a bad game but it has really low replay value by Paradox standards, for a few reasons. Air and naval are really bad which put me off playing any country that relies too heavily on those. The AI is not very good and you can get to a point pretty quickly where you know how to exploit and beat it. The focus trees are not super interesting (I understand this last point may have improved since launch). I got a good 40-50 hours out of it shortly after launch but haven’t picked it up since then. I got my money’s worth but 40-50 hours for a Paradox game is peanuts, so I was a little disappointed. The first couple of DLCs didn’t interest me at all. I hear good buzz about whatever the next one is, but haven’t followed it at all. I would love a game that is a straight-up remaster/remake of HoI2. That game was awesome.
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Tomn posted:But maybe I’m just a filthy casual ruining Paradox games for the ~real fans~, who knows?
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Prav posted:loot boxes are on the way out, legally and popularly, so they're probably right in saying that they're not gonna sell those Thats different from now exactly how?
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