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Drink-Mix Man posted:Interesting stuff, a memo was just unearthed containing the original non-Roddenberry TNG pitch from 1986. It would have involved a ship called the USS Odyssey fighting in a new Klingon war, an amputee first officer, a Klingon exchange officer serving on board, and a captain who dies in the pilot and lives on as a hologram. The idea of the Romulans having enough of that peace crap and going guerrilla to bring the war back is a fascinating one and gently caress you Gene for not letting it happen.
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Interesting stuff, a memo was just unearthed containing the original non-Roddenberry TNG pitch from 1986. It would have involved a ship called the USS Odyssey fighting in a new Klingon war, an amputee first officer, a Klingon exchange officer serving on board, and a captain who dies in the pilot and lives on as a hologram. 
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Feb 14, 2018 02:24
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Interesting stuff, a memo was just unearthed containing the original non-Roddenberry TNG pitch from 1986. It would have involved a ship called the USS Odyssey fighting in a new Klingon war, an amputee first officer, a Klingon exchange officer serving on board, and a captain who dies in the pilot and lives on as a hologram. I don't..hate it? LOL at Lt Brick tho. And the "painfully beautiful" cadet. 
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Feb 14, 2018 02:34
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It sounds incredibly generic. For all the Gene literal insanity, I'm glad he got to start TNG off and shape it into a wonderful beige post-scarcity nonmilitarised utopia of ideals that other writers could then fix into having real stories a few seasons later.
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Feb 14, 2018 02:38
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The double-lip in Saru's makeup weirds me out.
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Feb 14, 2018 02:51
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Timby posted:The double-lip in Saru's makeup weirds me out. Same but klingon
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Feb 14, 2018 03:04
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Drink-Mix Man posted:Interesting stuff, a memo was just unearthed containing the original non-Roddenberry TNG pitch from 1986. It would have involved a ship called the USS Odyssey fighting in a new Klingon war, an amputee first officer, a Klingon exchange officer serving on board, and a captain who dies in the pilot and lives on as a hologram.
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Feb 14, 2018 03:32
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The “young Vulcan who makes Spock look like a jock” character concept goes back to Phase II. Not sure why they’d double that up with the captain though.
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Feb 14, 2018 03:57
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I love the that the female characters have to be described in terms of physical attractiveness, but there's a slot for some  alien they can't bother to come up with any details for.
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Feb 14, 2018 05:28
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FlamingLiberal posted:That’s interesting, but I don’t get the idea of having two Vulcans as main characters Because Vulcans = Star Trek, until TNG deliberately went out of their way to distance themselves from the TOS elements.
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Feb 14, 2018 05:34
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After The War posted:I love the that the female characters have to be described in terms of physical attractiveness, but there's a slot for some Now would be a great time to dig up Roddenberry's description of Teri Hatcher's character from Outrageous Okona.
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Feb 14, 2018 05:39
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Delsaber posted:Now would be a great time to dig up Roddenberry's description of Teri Hatcher's character from Outrageous Okona. Is it just "they're real and they're spectacular" repeated over and over again?
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Feb 14, 2018 05:40
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After The War posted:I love the that the female characters have to be described in terms of physical attractiveness, but there's a slot for some PLACEHOLDER ALIEN TBD
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Feb 14, 2018 11:46
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WampaLord posted:Is it just "they're real and they're spectacular" repeated over and over again? From the script: Worf and TWO SECURITY MEN bracket the very feminine and graciously endowed Transporter Commander B.G. Robinson. Everything she has two of are perfectly matched, coordinated, and move with a wonderful grace that is called "woman."
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Feb 14, 2018 12:42
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Zesty posted:From the script: Please tell me you made that up 
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Feb 14, 2018 13:00
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Zesty posted:Everything she has two of are perfectly matched, coordinated, and move with a wonderful grace that is called "woman." "Commander, those are some perfectly matched, coordinated, and graceful kidneys you have there."
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Feb 14, 2018 13:28
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Epicurius posted:"Commander, those are some perfectly matched, coordinated, and graceful kidneys you have there." loving space harassment
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Feb 14, 2018 13:30
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Epicurius posted:"Commander, those are some perfectly matched, coordinated, and graceful kidneys you have there." And that's why Geordi isn't able to get non-holographic dates.
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Feb 14, 2018 13:42
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Neelix walks onto the Vidian ship sporting two perfectly matched, coordinated, graceful lungs.
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Feb 14, 2018 13:52
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Sir Lemming posted:Neelix walks onto the Vidian ship sporting two perfectly matched, coordinated, graceful lungs. moves with a wonderful grace that is called "Neelix."
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Feb 14, 2018 13:53
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FabioClone posted:moves with a wonderful grace that is called "Neelix." just imagine I posted NeexlixDance.gif again here
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Feb 14, 2018 15:03
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Please tell me you made that up Oh, it's real. "She has the natural walk of a striptease queen." Guess which TNG character this was meant to be.
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Feb 14, 2018 15:10
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Cythereal posted:Oh, it's real. Judging by what's on screen, Beverly.
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Feb 14, 2018 15:12
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Sir Lemming posted:Neelix walks onto the Vidian ship sporting two perfectly matched, coordinated, graceful lungs. …which leaves no room for his heart, killing him instantly. Co-Producer WENDY NEUSS
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Feb 14, 2018 16:21
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Cythereal posted:Oh, it's real. Troi
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Feb 14, 2018 17:25
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It's obviously Pulaski.
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Feb 14, 2018 17:26
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Zesty posted:From the script: That's not Gene though, is it? I have a hard time believing Gene could be bothered to write a sentence of screenplay in 1988.
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Feb 14, 2018 17:29
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So wait a minute here... there's a new Klingon war and the Not Enterprise is fighting in it with Captain Rimmer in charge. Got it. But... there's a Klingon exchange officer on the bridge, too? Well, that makes sense, what with all the commanders we borrowed from the Japanese Navy during WWII. They helped us out a lot on the bridges of our ships as we worked to destroy their countrymen's hopes of pacific domination.
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Feb 14, 2018 17:33
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No, there was a Klingon war, they deliver the peace treaty in the first episode and part of it involves exchange officers.
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Feb 14, 2018 17:44
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Something that's bothering me is how the federation ships in Discovery have such patchwork-looking hulls. Why are the individual plates such varying colors? Shouldn't they all be the same general duterium alloy or whatever?
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Feb 14, 2018 17:50
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Brawnfire posted:Something that's bothering me is how the federation ships in Discovery have such patchwork-looking hulls. Why are the individual plates such varying colors? Shouldn't they all be the same general duterium alloy or whatever? It reminds me of the Thermal Protection System on the Space Shuttles, for what that's worth:    If part of the hull gets damaged from an attack or a quantum filament or whatever, they're just going to patch up the parts that they need to. And those parts will be newer than the surrounding parts.
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Feb 14, 2018 17:54
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Cythereal posted:Oh, it's real. Riker. You can tell by the way he swings his legs over things.
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Feb 14, 2018 17:55
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It's called aztecing, after square aztec patterns, and it's common in sci-fi ships with smooth sections of hull because it adds detail and keeps them from being big expanses of blank, without needing greebles. The effect was actually invented and named by TMP when designing the refit Enterprise.
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Brawnfire posted:Something that's bothering me is how the federation ships in Discovery have such patchwork-looking hulls. Why are the individual plates such varying colors? Shouldn't they all be the same general duterium alloy or whatever? Welcome to the eternal debate: how much Aztec is too much?
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Arglebargle III posted:Welcome to the eternal debate: how much Aztec is too much? Like always, TMP is juuuuuust right.
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Feb 14, 2018 18:05
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Let's ask Olmec. Olmec: I'm Incan you dipshit
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Feb 14, 2018 18:05
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I mean I've seen it before, but good lord Discovery ships look like a quilt, as if they were thrown together in a scrapyard
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Feb 14, 2018 18:08
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Arglebargle III posted:Welcome to the eternal debate: how much Aztec is too much? If you're Spanish, any.
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Just watched season finale of DS9 season 1. It's good but drat is the attempted assassination scene so poorly staged.
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MikeJF posted:It's called aztecing, after square aztec patterns, and it's common in sci-fi ships with smooth sections of hull because it adds detail and keeps them from being big expanses of blank, without needing greebles. The effect was actually invented and named by TMP when designing the refit Enterprise. I don't get the hate for smooth sections of hull
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