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Galaga Galaxian
Apr 23, 2009

What a childish tactic!
Don't you think you should put more thought into your battleplan?!


Just in case anyone hasn't already seen it, Phrosphor is kludging together a mercenary campaign game using the HBS Beta and Mercenary management tools meant for the tabletop game.

Its pretty cool so far, and just makes me even hungrier for this game to come out!

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Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
Also just as a reminder, the live Q&A returns today at 12 PM Pacific / 3 PM Eastern (or roughly 7 and a half hours from this post for those who aren't in those regions) on NGNGTV.

I know a lot of Goons have strong feelings of disgust towards the NGNG tv but they don't interfere with the Q&As, which are completely HBS run.

Don't expect a release date announcement then, because if they were to announce it I imagine it would in a Kickstarter update immediately.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Sky Shadowing posted:

Also just as a reminder, the live Q&A returns today at 12 PM Pacific / 3 PM Eastern (or roughly 7 and a half hours from this post for those who aren't in those regions) on NGNGTV.

I know a lot of Goons have strong feelings of disgust towards the NGNG tv but they don't interfere with the Q&As, which are completely HBS run.

Don't expect a release date announcement then, because if they were to announce it I imagine it would in a Kickstarter update immediately.
Thank you for posting this. Didnt they declare that there would be no date announcement at the Q&A and to not bother asking any questions about it?

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Thank you for posting this. Didnt they declare that there would be no date announcement at the Q&A and to not bother asking any questions about it?

Yeah, but come on that chat's going to be spammed with idiots saying poo poo like "GIVE GAME."

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

Sky Shadowing posted:

Yeah, but come on that chat's going to be spammed with idiots saying poo poo like "GIVE GAME."
HAH, yeah, very true.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

Thank you for posting this. Didnt they declare that there would be no date announcement at the Q&A and to not bother asking any questions about it?

Also while that's probably true, obviously you don't announce in advance when you will be making an announcement a month in advance of release, if you get my meaning.

Orv
May 4, 2011

Alchenar posted:

Also while that's probably true, obviously you don't announce in advance when you will be making an announcement a month in advance of release, if you get my meaning.

Buddy let me introduce you to the last year of announcement announcements.

spiritual bypass
Feb 19, 2008

Grimey Drawer
when bannerlord

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
I'll admit that I wouldn't be entirely surprised if today they put out a Kickstarter update about a release date, but that is mostly because I know THEY know the Q&A will be overrun by that question even if they put a flashing text box saying "No release date, stop asking" on the stream.

Also because I expect there will be about 2 months between date given and date reached, so if Early 2018 means anything realistic we're running low on time.

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

They are going to announce today that the game will release tomorrow.

Omar_Comin
Aug 20, 2004
Dark Jedi Carebear

AAAAA! Real Muenster posted:

They are going to announce today that the game will release tomorrow.

I would love a Netflix Cloverfield twist, and have the game launch directly after the livestream ends.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Or they start the Q&A but it just works like the Playstation 2 press conference where the only thing they said was the price and walked away.

"Release date: NOW." *stream cuts to footage of fireworks for the rest of the duration*

AAAAA! Real Muenster
Jul 12, 2008

My QB is also named Bort

I was searching for a joke about not releasing on Valentines Day because they wouldnt want to ruin it for so many people, but lol the people that will be playing this game.

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!
I'd actually be weirdly annoyed if it released today because it's my brother's birthday and I wanted to get him this game a lot but it's not out yet so I got something else instead.

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
Heads up, there is activity on SteamDB relating to BattleTech.

I very very much doubt release is imminent (they want to market I'd guess) but a simultaneous launch of preorders and the release date might be realistic.

A.o.D.
Jan 15, 2006
Microbrain:. Give game
Normal brain: What features will be in at launch
Galaxy Brain: PORN WHEN

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

A.o.D. posted:


Galaxy Brain: PORN WHEN

Rule 34 and Devient Art have you coverted.

:siren: OBVIOUSLY EVERTHYTHING BELOW IS :nws: :siren:

:nws: :nws: :nws:

https://i.imgur.com/ppfYbE2.jpg

https://i.imgur.com/iuBrzlx.jpg

Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 16:27 on Feb 17, 2018

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Sky Shadowing posted:

Heads up, there is activity on SteamDB relating to BattleTech.

I very very much doubt release is imminent (they want to market I'd guess) but a simultaneous launch of preorders and the release date might be realistic.

My memory from that time's really hazy, but didn't they release Shadowrun Returns pretty suddenly?

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


A.o.D. posted:

Microbrain:. Give game
Normal brain: What features will be in at launch
Galaxy Brain: PORN WHEN

The true XCOM experience.

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)

Drone posted:

My memory from that time's really hazy, but didn't they release Shadowrun Returns pretty suddenly?

June 18 2013 was announcement of release on July 25th.

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
Q&A finished up.

Big news is Maurader and Warhammer are both NOT in the game at launch. When asked if there were reasons, Mitch just responded with a very firm "yes." So the Harmony Gold lawsuit is taking its toll.

Replacing them for now are the Black Knight and the Catapult K2.

Otherwise no date given other than '2018.'

Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

Sky Shadowing posted:

Q&A finished up.

Big news is Maurader and Warhammer are both NOT in the game at launch. When asked if there were reasons, Mitch just responded with a very firm "yes." So the Harmony Gold lawsuit is taking its toll.

Replacing them for now are the Black Knight and the Catapult K2.

Otherwise no date given other than '2018.'

Raven isn't making it either, they said they wanted to fine tune electronic warfare before adding it. I guess they took a look at how much work it would be for one light mech and cut the whole thing.

Mentioned lots of new animations, both for falls and for melee. Examples given were the ShadowHawk's punch and an atlas doing an overhead smash down on top of a smaller Mech.

Sounds like the off map artillery and aerospace assets have been cut as well, though allies may still call in artillery strikes.

Loans are gone, if you run out of money thats it.

Destroyed mechs give you a salvage piece of that mech, get three and you can use them to rebuild the naked chassis of that mech. They mentioned being able to buy these salvage pieces.

Weapon variants are still in, represented by manufacturers. No trade offs with the weapons, they are just better in some respect.

Brief mention of other things you can fit on a mech; improved arm actuators for better melee, better gyros for more stability, heat banks for higher overheat threshold. No idea if these involve tradeoffs or not.

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


Wow, arty and air strikes are gone too? Surprising amount of stuff hitting the chopping block as we get closer to <no release date announced>.

Wonder why allies can call them in, since that'd still require the code. I guess if you never have to deal with enemies throwing them at you either that's less annoyance, but still sad to see them go.

Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

Zaodai posted:

Wow, arty and air strikes are gone too? Surprising amount of stuff hitting the chopping block as we get closer to <no release date announced>.

Wonder why allies can call them in, since that'd still require the code. I guess if you never have to deal with enemies throwing them at you either that's less annoyance, but still sad to see them go.

By the sounds of it they just removed the parts that let you hire/buy the support teams and items themselves. It probably got thrown out when the simplified the finance simulation.

Best moment of the stream was when someone asked them how long you could operate just above bankruptcy and there was genuine confusion on whether they question referred to the game or HBS themselves.

aniviron
Sep 11, 2014

Well here's to hoping it does well and all this stuff makes it in for Battletech: Dragonfall.

Cyrano4747
Sep 25, 2006

Yes, I know I'm old, get off my fucking lawn so I can yell at these clouds.

Zaodai posted:

Wow, arty and air strikes are gone too? Surprising amount of stuff hitting the chopping block as we get closer to <no release date announced>.

Wonder why allies can call them in, since that'd still require the code. I guess if you never have to deal with enemies throwing them at you either that's less annoyance, but still sad to see them go.

If I had to guess I'd think balance. It might have been the kind of thing that was hard to balance missions around.

Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

Cyrano4747 posted:

If I had to guess I'd think balance. It might have been the kind of thing that was hard to balance missions around.

Oh and Mitch pissed off half the grogs by basically saying 'no quad mechs in my game EVER!'

Rygar201
Jan 26, 2011
I AM A TERRIBLE PIECE OF SHIT.

Please Condescend to me like this again.

Oh yeah condescend to me ALL DAY condescend daddy.


Phrosphor posted:

Oh and Mitch pissed off half the grogs by basically saying 'no quad mechs in my game EVER!'

Mitch owns, games gonna own

Taintrunner
Apr 10, 2017

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Boo, quad mechs are neat

PoptartsNinja
May 9, 2008

He is still almost definitely not a spy


Soiled Meat
Oh no what will we possibly do without the Scorpion (a worse Griffin) and the Goliath (The second-worst Assault 'Mech in 3025)?

Zaodai
May 23, 2009

Death before dishonor?
Your terms are accepted.


But will there be quad elementals in the Clan game?

RabidWeasel
Aug 4, 2007

Cultures thrive on their myths and legends...and snuggles!

Cyrano4747 posted:

If I had to guess I'd think balance. It might have been the kind of thing that was hard to balance missions around.

This is my reading, same with the no loans thing.

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

Arty and airstrikes were rubbish in MC1 and 2. And in a turn based game they'll either be 'incoming damage you can do nothing about, gently caress you' or 'I guess everyone moves out of this circle before the next turn'.

kingcom
Jun 23, 2012

A.o.D. posted:

Microbrain:. Give game
Normal brain: What features will be in at launch
Galaxy Brain: DORN WHEN


Zaodai posted:

The true XCOM experience.

Captain Foo
May 11, 2004

we vibin'
we slidin'
we breathin'
we dyin'

Alchenar posted:

Arty and airstrikes were rubbish in MC1 and 2. And in a turn based game they'll either be 'incoming damage you can do nothing about, gently caress you' or 'I guess everyone moves out of this circle before the next turn'.

Arrow IV to the HD

Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

It's a shame because strafing runs are the coolest things and I love offmap tactical tools.

Psion
Dec 13, 2002

eVeN I KnOw wHaT CoRnEr gAs iS
Yeah I'm sad to hear about the offmap assets getting dropped but it looks like they had to do a real hard cut on core features vs everything else.

this, though.

Phrosphor posted:

Best moment of the stream was when someone asked them how long you could operate just above bankruptcy and there was genuine confusion on whether they question referred to the game or HBS themselves.

ouch.

I assume they meant the game, but ouch. :v:

Alchenar
Apr 9, 2008

My instinct is that deployable aoe abilities that force a 'move from here or take damage' work really well in cover based games like XCOM where they force a real dilemma, but don't really make any sense in a game like battletech where the concept is 'knights jousting' and the default is that movement is life and standing still is mostly a bad idea.

Sky Shadowing
Feb 13, 2012

At least we're not the Thalmor (yet)
I'm actually disappointed about the offmap assets, I like feeling like I'm bigger than One Lance On The Map. Those were a bit of a help to feel that way, but... probably was hard to balance.

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Phrosphor
Feb 25, 2007

Urbanisation

Sky Shadowing posted:

I'm actually disappointed about the offmap assets, I like feeling like I'm bigger than One Lance On The Map. Those were a bit of a help to feel that way, but... probably was hard to balance.

They want all these things in the game for sure. I think they have sat down and, led by Mitch who seems to be quite the realist, they have brutally cut everything that was holding them back from release. If the game does well I fully expect an add-on of some kind that brings a lot of this stuff back in.

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