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Snowman_McK posted:Oh, he is. He's the 'magical negro' except that he's in his own movie, for once, instead of being a side act in someone else's.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Variety sources are reporting that Joaquin Phoenix has agreed to be the Joker on the standalone film. ...what the gently caress are you doing, WB?
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Feb 15, 2018 16:38
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thrawn527 posted:...what the gently caress are you doing, WB? hiring a cool actor
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Feb 15, 2018 16:40
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Brother Entropy posted:hiring a cool actor But also keeping the old actor?
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Feb 15, 2018 16:43
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thrawn527 posted:But also keeping the old actor? don't see the problem with that, unless you're someone who didn't like leto's joker
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Feb 15, 2018 16:45
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Brother Entropy posted:don't see the problem with that, unless you're someone who didn't like leto's joker I just think having two different actors playing the Joker in different movies from the same studio is weird. It would be like if Octopussy and Never Say Never Again were both put out by MGM/UA.
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Feb 15, 2018 16:48
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lol remember when Bruce Wayne couldnt show up on Smallville because it would have “confused” audiences, with Nolan’s trilogy being in full swing.
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Feb 15, 2018 16:50
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If anything, casting Phoenix says to me they'll be looking for a more Heath Ledger edque depiction. At least, Phoenix more resembles Ledger than he does Leto physically.
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Feb 15, 2018 16:52
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I can see having two concurrent Jokers working. It stinks of WB leaning hard back into something that they know works, but I can't object to a Phoenix Joker.
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thrawn527 posted:I just think having two different actors playing the Joker in different movies from the same studio is weird. It would be like if Octopussy and Never Say Never Again were both put out by MGM/UA. han solo, obi wan, anakin skywalker
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Feb 15, 2018 16:54
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K. Waste posted:So I wanna put together a short-list of black superhero movies that I either need to watch or re-watch, let me know if I've left something out: Human Tornado.
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Feb 15, 2018 16:55
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Brother Entropy posted:han solo, obi wan, anakin skywalker Name for me, please, when they cast a new actor for any of those, while continuing to use the other actor in new movies. Each of these was a recast, where the old actor did not come back.
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Feb 15, 2018 16:58
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thrawn527 posted:Name for me, please, when they cast a new actor for any of those, while continuing to use the other actor in new movies. Each of these was a recast, where the old actor did not come back. that seems like a really pedantic distinction
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Feb 15, 2018 17:00
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Brother Entropy posted:that seems like a really pedantic distinction Not really. Recasting because you want to go in a different direction, or the actor isn't available, or you want to age up or down the character happens all the time. This is two actors playing the same character, roughly the same age, in concurrent movies. Just seems like an odd move to me.
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How do we know it's the same character? are cw flash and dceu flash the same character?
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Feb 15, 2018 17:04
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They're just alternate reality versions of Barry Allen, ofc. Batman and Robin is a canon reality somewhere out there in the Multiverse.
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Feb 15, 2018 17:06
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Yeah their Barry Allen
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Feb 15, 2018 17:07
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It'd actually be pretty funny if the movie opens with "Gotham Earth 8 - 1985".
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Feb 15, 2018 17:08
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Brother Entropy posted:How do we know it's the same character? are cw flash and dceu flash the same character? That double casting is also stupid. Albeit maybe slightly less so since one is film and the other is television. I like the Bond comparison. You don’t have two different James Bonds in two different film series coming out simultaneously. Audiences aren’t complete idiots, but this gives bad optics of WB appearing all over the place with what they want to do and is opening the door to market confusion.
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i think you overestimate how much audiences give a poo poo about brand clarity
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Feb 15, 2018 17:13
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DC comics has multiple copies of the same character on the same Earth all the time. Hell, Johns even recently made it so that the main DC Earth's different interpretations of The Joker were actually three different people.
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Mordiceius posted:You don’t have two different James Bonds in two different film series coming out simultaneously. I'd be surprised if the Todd Phillips Joker movie was in theaters simultaneously with Suicide Squad 2.
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Mordiceius posted:That double casting is also stupid. Albeit maybe slightly less so since one is film and the other is television. It's always funny to me when distressed individuals express their worry through how other people will be confused.
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Detective No. 27 posted:DC comics has multiple copies of the same character on the same Earth all the time. Hell, Johns even recently made it so that the main DC Earth's different interpretations of The Joker were actually three different people. having multiple iterations of the same character in different comic lines / universes that don't need to all intersect is a strength of cape comics that have been more or less ignored when it comes to movie adaptations this only seems weird because it hasn't been done yet for movies
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Feb 15, 2018 17:20
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Give me a movie wth black POTUS Superman, WB.
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Broke: Todd Phillips Joker Movie Woke: Todd Solondz Joker Movie
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Feb 15, 2018 17:21
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Oscar Winner Rick Baker (An American Werewolf in London, Videodrome, Men in Black and many, many more) has unveiled his take on the Joker for DC's Collectibles. https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rick-baker-remakes-joker-halloween-bust-1084759 Curious that this is unveiled when the news about Phoenix hit up. But probably that is just me seeing things. Either way, cool design.
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Bespoke: Todd Barry Joker movie
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 In this completely tone-deaf page, Spiderman villain Morlun brutally murders the characters from children's cartoon Spider-Man and His Amazing Friends. Everything that can happen is happening at all times in Comic Book Multiverses and it's all loving stupid.
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Feb 15, 2018 17:24
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Todd Haynes Joker Movie
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DeafNote posted:clearly the Guardians of the Galaxy need to have a team of six even bigger dysfunctional space travelers as their opponents for GOTG3 Pretty sure this exact thing happened in the I am Groot comic at some point.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:
How many writers have died on the “I can salvage Morlun” hill? ‘Cause it feels like it’s gotta be a higher number than you’d think.
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WENTZ WAGON NUI posted:
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Didn't he also trash Leopardon? Which is blasphemy.
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I hear Brad Dourif when I read that
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Brother Entropy posted:having multiple iterations of the same character in different comic lines / universes that don't need to all intersect is a strength of cape comics that have been more or less ignored when it comes to movie adaptations I would much rather see WB/DC go full on into abandoning 'universe' continuity just to see what sorts of stories they can tell when there isn't this pathetic, 'compete with Marvel' endgame. We've already seen what happens with the later - as everyone points out, they produced compromised trash that pleases nobody except on the rare occasion (Wonder Woman) that they're able to attach it to a progressive zeitgeist. Those conditions are never going to be recreated, so the only realistic solution going forward is to cut your losses and try to get closer to that reputation you had, that you only got because you handed the creative reigns to filmmakers who were just trying to tell a compelling story. Obviously, the actual strategy will be a compromised mixture of the two. With Wonder Woman and Suicide Squad, they have absolutely no reason to not continue with a DC universe strategy, but because they still blame that weirdo Zack Snyder for poisoning the water, even if they do fund more-or-less 'non-canon' projects, they'll be just as risk-averse in trying to micromanage the final product.
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I Before E posted:Todd Haynes Joker Movie I think Todd Haynes would make a great Harleen Quinzell movie.
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Oscar Winner Rick Baker (An American Werewolf in London, Videodrome, Men in Black and many, many more) has unveiled his take on the Joker for DC's Collectibles. How about Rick Baker (And his family) as the Joker? https://cosplay.kotaku.com/killer-joker-cosplay-courtesy-of-a-hollywood-legend-1739934115
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Dark_Tzitzimine posted:Oscar Winner Rick Baker (An American Werewolf in London, Videodrome, Men in Black and many, many more) has unveiled his take on the Joker for DC's Collectibles. I like Baker a lot, but I’m not feeling this. It looks like something from the music video for Genesis’ Land Of Confusion.
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