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shovelbum posted:Deuterium water will kill you if you try to live off it That's what Big Water wants you to think. But deuterium is actually capable of making you healthier, it improves reflexes and metabolic rate.
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Funny you should mention the positive side effects of deuteriorated water, I'm actually selling a bunch of deuterium water filters, you can find them on SAMART for just five slips of gold-pressed latinum per piece
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VitalSigns posted:Wouldn't you just beam all the dirt off you.
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shovelbum posted:Deuterium water will kill you if you try to live off it How long would it take to mess up your pH though? Besides with power they could get hydrogen off virtually any organic chemical.
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can replicate water but need to goto the coffee nebula when they run out of folgers? hmm
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Smythe posted:can replicate water but need to goto the coffee nebula when they run out of folgers? hmm You know Janeway has a stash of Maxwell House or Gloria Jean's tins somewhere in her quarters.
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https://www.space.com/39672-fake-star-trek-science-paper-published.html It's based on Threshold! The paper is no longer online: https://www.arjonline.org/papers/arjb/v3-i1/6.pdf
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MikeJF posted:Replicators don't actually make things from energy, they make things from matter banks of stored molecules or, in a pinch, atoms. They're, at best, inconsistent on this point. The Federation can definitely do energy-matter conversion. So the way I reconcile it is, DS9 has waste reclamation because it only has a fusion reactor. Straight matter-energy conversion is simply too power intensive if you don't have a full-on warp core.
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Cingulate posted:That might clean you, but not refresh you. Use the O'Brien prison simulator except program it to give you the 2-hour bubble bath experience in a microsecond E: whoops it malfunctioned you just experienced being locked in the bathroom for 30 years
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Roadie posted:Well, when they're shown in TMP and VOY Oh they actually show them? I always thought it was an offscreen only thing.
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VitalSigns posted:Use the O'Brien prison simulator except program it to give you the 2-hour bubble bath experience in a microsecond Longer bath than you think, daddy! Longer bath than you think!! 
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WampaLord posted:Oh they actually show them? I always thought it was an offscreen only thing. I forget what was ever shown on television, but Ilia'ger is briefly seen in a sonic shower and comes out wearing her skimpy-rear end robe.
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Timby posted:I forget what was ever shown on television, but Ilia'ger is briefly seen in a sonic shower and comes out wearing her skimpy-rear end robe. What I remember from the novelization (and I think the crappy computer voice from the theatrical release supports this) is that the Ilia probe arrived inside the sonic shower glowing white hot, using the shower to rapidly cool. I'm also pretty sure the Ilia-probe had water droplets on it when they first opened the shower door.
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Timby posted:I forget what was ever shown on television, but Ilia'ger is briefly seen in a sonic shower and comes out wearing her skimpy-rear end robe. The only bathing things I remember were Riker giving the Irish lady that footwash and Neelix's bath in the Voyager pilot episode. 
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Longer bath than you think, daddy! Longer bath than you think!! He holds up impossibly wrinkled fingertips as the attendants wheel him away, cackling.
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We've seen motion activated sinks in TNG a few times, too. No sonic handwashing or splashing soundwaves on your face to wakeup
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Q_res posted:They're, at best, inconsistent on this point. The Federation can definitely do energy-matter conversion. So the way I reconcile it is, DS9 has waste reclamation because it only has a fusion reactor. Straight matter-energy conversion is simply too power intensive if you don't have a full-on warp core. They don't directly create matter from energy. I assume they could get all the water they reasonably need from a random cometary body.
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Nessus posted:replicators produce food by 'beaming' a chunk If they're beaming... at some point they are indeed creating matter from energy. They're just starting out with other matter before turning it into energy and back to other matter, which seems kind of silly... unless, as you say, it's poop.
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Nessus posted:I assume they could get all the water they reasonably need from a random cometary body. I very misunderstood this as "comatose body" and imagined some horrific nightmare of endless comatose people being drained of their fluids to sustain the rest of the crew.
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Star Trek: Beaming your poop and eating it too
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Big Mean Jerk posted:Star Trek: Beaming your poop and eating it too
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Most ships are mentioned to have a hydroponics bay, so I imagine some food is still grown even on starships.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:I very misunderstood this as "comatose body" and imagined some horrific nightmare of endless comatose people being drained of their fluids to sustain the rest of the crew. IIRC this is episode 2 of Ent
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Cythereal posted:Most ships are mentioned to have a hydroponics bay, so I imagine some food is still grown even on starships. Do they have any baleen whales in cetacean ops, or is it just dolphins and other toothy friends?
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The Bloop posted:IIRC this is episode 2 of Ent Dead Stop was a good episode.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Dead Stop was a good episode. I can hear cheerful Doc Phlox saying "rooms full of corpses" to Hoshi in my head right now
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The Bloop posted:Do they have any baleen whales in cetacean ops, or is it just dolphins and other toothy friends?
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You’d think considering how often power goes out or the computer malfunctions they’d have an easier and more accessible way to open and close the drat doors. And doors don’t seem to be hooked up to life support system. They’re in some secondary system, potentially meaning folks can be trapped inside random rooms unable to easily get where they need to be to perform repairs. I don’t think they ever addressed this, did they?
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Delthalaz posted:You’d think considering how often power goes out or the computer malfunctions they’d have an easier and more accessible way to open and close the drat doors. And doors don’t seem to be hooked up to life support system. They’re in some secondary system, potentially meaning folks can be trapped inside random rooms unable to easily get where they need to be to perform repairs. I don’t think they ever addressed this, did they? Pretty sure if the power goes out, you can just manually open the doors with your hands, I don't think there's any physical lock keeping them shut, the locks need power to work. Haven't we see someone force open a door this way or am I thinking of another sci fi show that did this?
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WampaLord posted:Pretty sure if the power goes out, you can just manually open the doors with your hands, I don't think there's any physical lock keeping them shut, the locks need power to work. Yeah but it isn’t easy. You see people using a ton of muscle strength to open the doors.
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WampaLord posted:Pretty sure if the power goes out, you can just manually open the doors with your hands, I don't think there's any physical lock keeping them shut, the locks need power to work. 
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Nessus posted:I think it was all dolphins and orcas, at least on the Ent-D. They're actually humpback whales, direct progeny of those rescued in Voyage Home; communication with the Probe unlocked powerful mental potential within the creatures, elevating them to near the level of their mysterious spacefaring cousins. This makes them able navigators.
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TNG Genesis had Picard and Data manually opening doors. I could swear I remember seeing some beep-boop device they used on the doors before opening them.
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:TNG Genesis had Picard and Data manually opening doors. I could swear I remember seeing some beep-boop device they used on the doors before opening them. Picard and Data also try using an access handle to open a locked door when they were spelunking in the E's Borg catacombs. It snaps off.
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In Starship Mine Picard had a little hand-held thingy that popped the powerless door locks
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The Bloop posted:Do they have any baleen whales in cetacean ops, or is it just dolphins and other toothy friends? I'm so sad we never got to see this ocean mammals are cool as poo poo
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You guys are always forgetting Cetacean Ops, what do you think they've got to breathe, flourine?
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