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maswastaken posted:A shockingly obscure André Malraux line? ENOUGH TALK HAVE AT YOU
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Hard to believe, I know, but Jules broke something again. Try it for yourself. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrrlr4qbdE0
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Feb 17, 2018 23:32
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UnknownMercenary posted:Hard to believe, I know, but Jules broke something again. Try it for yourself.
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FYI that is normal for console...since 2013.
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swims posted:FYI that is normal for console...since 2013. I am excited for the Switch version. Not because I'll buy it (not that dumb), but to see in what new and exciting ways it can be broken.
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ThatOneGuy posted:I am excited for the Switch version. Not because I'll buy it (not that dumb), but to see in what new and exciting ways it can be broken. I haven't played Payday 2 since before Locke betrayed us except maybe not?, and this is my entire relationship to following this thread at this point. e: well that and the possibility of more eric etebari content
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my friend bought pd2 and can't get it to launch to the point where it even produces a crash log. i'm loving dumb as rocks when it comes to troubleshooting this garbage. their computer should be able to run it i think, albeit not greatly. they have a Intel core 2 duo CPU 2.20GHz T6600, geforce 9300m gs, 4gb ram, 64bit windows vista, and 88gb of hdd space free after the install. how do we make this potentially not happen. they already tried verifying game files and nothing
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Literal Nazi Furry posted:my friend bought pd2 and can't get it to launch to the point where it even produces a crash log. i'm loving dumb as rocks when it comes to troubleshooting this garbage. their computer should be able to run it i think, albeit not greatly. they have a Intel core 2 duo CPU 2.20GHz T6600, geforce 9300m gs, 4gb ram, 64bit windows vista, and 88gb of hdd space free after the install. how do we make this potentially not happen. they already tried verifying game files and nothing Check and see if the 9300m is supported, and/or update the drivers for it. This game has pretty low requirements, but that 9300m might not cut it. Fake edit: checked out the 9300m, max of 256MB of video RAM, PD2 needs 512MB minimum.
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ThatOneGuy posted:Check and see if the 9300m is supported, and/or update the drivers for it. This game has pretty low requirements, but that 9300m might not cut it. wow my friend's computer is loving trash more than either of us anticipated lol. thanks for helping
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Xbox 1 was surprisingly updated today. From what I've followed in this thread in the past it's the "Carshop update" and some other general stuff too if that gives you an idea where we are at. Catching up. Fov slider was added in the options- it is buried in there. Haven't hosed with it yet and probably won't.
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Feb 23, 2018 04:05
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a hundred new achievements were added, all of which is the wikipedia article of a bank robbery spliced into achievements. 
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Feb 28, 2018 03:06
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Would those be the new One Down Mutator achievements or something else?
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Feb 28, 2018 05:22
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Presumably the current ones will be One Down mutator achievements. And the new ones will just be for the highest difficulty without that.
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Feb 28, 2018 05:26
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65 heists 11 contractors 1 difficulty mask 7 for Cursed Kill Room, which didn't have any in the first place. 1 I probably miscounted the heists again. 85 in total. maswastaken fucked around with this message at 13:02 on Feb 28, 2018 |
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Feb 28, 2018 12:55
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EorayMel posted:a hundred new achievements were added Oh for gently caress's sake.
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I've tried to make a joke comparing Jules' health inflation problem to the achievement problem in this game but it's failed to land twice so whatever if the M1014 does not feature as the last achievement in the list in some way, they really failed on this one
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so i finally bought the h3h3 meme dlc airbow is surprisingly slick
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  It begins. AI & Difficulty Changes posted:
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mutators posted:Clone Army will now reduce Experience and Money by 35% when active Achievements & Rewards posted:Added new Death Sentence Achievements Weapons posted:Developer notes: Due to the introduction of the new skill and the removal of Specialized Killing we have adjusted the damage and stats of certain weapons to make sure they stay viable after the update 
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They have, predictably, addressed none of the balance and few of the technical issues identified in the beta.
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Is there a way to play the difficulties beta and the VR beta at the same time?
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Discendo Vox posted:They have, predictably, addressed none of the balance and few of the technical issues identified in the beta. I haven't played the beta, but it seems like they've hit the things that pissed me off the most about PD2 when I last dug into it (guns felt like peashooters without minmaxing, bad AI, One Down being the worst difficulty level of all time)
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LORD OF BOOTY posted:I haven't played the beta, but it seems like they've hit the things that pissed me off the most about PD2 when I last dug into it (guns felt like peashooters without minmaxing, bad AI, One Down being the worst difficulty level of all time) The changelog isn't documenting some more "fun" that's been added. When I posted about them, Jules acknowledged that he's intentionally not reporting changes to the game because he doesn't want feedback on them. In a beta. As you will see, these are not small changes. Undocumented changes from the Difficulty Beta 1. Minigun dozers have no separate spawncap, so on any moderately long heist you wind up with a full set of minigun dozers. Any given dozerspawn has about a 4% chance to be a pair of minigun dozers. 2. Movement speed has doubled for most enemies on OD. 3. A type of scripted spawn, the "reinforce task" group that's designed to perform a bunch of functions on different maps, was hacked out of the spawntables. 4. The total number of enemies was increased again. OD now has 108 enemies with 4 players, although what sometimes happens is the game glitches out and spawns much fewer, or, apparently, occasionally much more. Coupled with the change to the task/framerate issue, and it's a horrifying clusterfuck on any map that puts all enemy spawnpoints in the same area. it's an additional 20-30 enemies for a player with bots or a full team, an additional 6 if you're solo. 5. Something's wrong with enemy hitboxes when crouched- their torso hitbox now covers the bottom half of their head. This makes heavy SWAT....fun. 6. Minigun bulldozers have their health doubled. This is on top of all bulldozers having their health doubled. Minigun dozers now have 48,000 health. This is more than anything but a SWAT turret, including all bosses. The task-framerate change and the health nerf were absolutely good changes, and the idea of qualitative changes on the top difficulties is great. It's just that Jules doubled down on some of the worst problems at the same time. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 20:47 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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what do you mean a squad of lumbering tanks dozer-sprinting across the map to gently caress your face with bullets isn't fun?
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RandallODim posted:what do you mean a squad of lumbering tanks dozer-sprinting across the map to gently caress your face with bullets isn't fun? Oh, minidozers can't sprint (ha, they never bothered to write them up!). But they also don't have damage falloff. They do 120 at all ranges. Now, close your eyes. Visualize the control room on alesso. Imagine the elevator shaft. See a Minigun dozer spawning right next to you. Imagine two of them. ...Now imagine Brooklyn 10-10.
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Discendo Vox posted:Oh, minidozers can't sprint (ha, they never bothered to write them up!). But they also don't have damage falloff. They do 120 at all ranges. Can I imagine Goat Sim instead?
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EorayMel posted:Can I imagine Goat Sim instead? You sure can, because the enemy weaponstats on OD are unchanged- it's still a festival of no-falloff massive damage that completely breaks the design of any map with open spaces. fwiw the devs are kinda stuck, in that a portion of the userbase will take any enemy health or damage reduction as some sort of moral compromise of One Down's "pure" difficulty. That's why there's a paragraph in the changelog about not making OD easier. OD is absolutely easier, because it's a lot less restrictive on player weapons. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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I'm gonna say 'the same flaw as skulldozers two+ loving years ago' really is more appropriate for this. e: also lol I just remembered how loving silly the sightlines are on Bomb: Dockyard and am now imagining minigun dozers shredding you across the starting warehouses RandallODim fucked around with this message at 21:33 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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The hitbox thing *might* be fixed right now. I need one of you to go into the test map and start checking it, but anecdotally I have not been having the same problems since beta update 1.31.
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UnknownMercenary posted:The hitbox thing *might* be fixed right now. I need one of you to go into the test map and start checking it, but anecdotally I have not been having the same problems since beta update 1.31. gosh, it'd be great if this poo poo would be in the changelog.
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Discendo Vox posted:gosh, it'd be great if this poo poo would be in the changelog. Hitboxes that actually work correctly would make One Down easier, and therefore me FURIOUS.
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John Murdoch posted:Hitboxes that actually work correctly would make One Down easier, and therefore me FURIOUS. look at this pleb, I've been furious since they added arm and leg hitboxes and RUINED THE GAME
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RandallODim posted:look at this pleb, I've been furious since they added arm and leg hitboxes and RUINED THE GAME 
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There have been only two periods when specific heists had passable difficulty: Boiling Point for about 48 hours, and Rats day 2 for about a month. All other aspects of payday 2 have always been terrible.
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Discendo Vox posted:There have been only two periods when specific heists had passable difficulty: Boiling Point for about 48 hours, and Rats day 2 for about a month. All other aspects of payday 2 have always been terrible. The best period of Payday difficulty was when suit grinder was king and I could massacre an entire DW Big Bank after all my pub pals wiped.
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RandallODim posted:The best period of Payday difficulty was when suit grinder was king and I could massacre an entire DW Big Bank after all my pub pals wiped. Baby Deagle and GL40, all day erry day.
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dublish posted:Baby Deagle and GL40, all day erry day. A (silenced) M308 and Judge were my best friends.
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Of all the guns abandoned due to meta/balance shifts, I miss my AA gun Patchett the most. Although the sniping Deagle was pretty great too.
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Discendo Vox posted:6. Minigun bulldozers have their health doubled. This is on top of all bulldozers having their health doubled. Minigun dozers now have 48,000 health. This is more than anything but a SWAT turret, including all bosses. So are rocket launchers basically required now, or
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Kith posted:So are rocket launchers basically required now, or multiple rockets per. Without getting into the math, other changes make lmgs more effective in a lot of ways.
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Discendo Vox posted:There have been only two periods when specific heists had passable difficulty: Boiling Point for about 48 hours, and Rats day 2 for about a month. All other aspects of payday 2 have always been terrible. Are you really defending when Boiling Point made all its units do blue cop levels of damage? Kith posted:So are rocket launchers basically required now, or No. LMGs, autoshotguns and akimbo pistols still wreck the gently caress out of dozers. Going full auto in a dozer's face with a DMR is going to be less effective due to multiple factors. The Thanatos is still viable, if slow, and there's the bonus of murdering everything else around the dozer if you are using a Graze build.
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