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Where do you even start looking into accidents during the Manhattan Project. My grandpa worked at The Lab at the time, got irradiated and in 2007 died of bladder and endocrine cancer due to his exposure. Here is a piece about him and a Robert Oppenheimer http://www.lamonitor.com/content/oppenheimer-souvenir-brings-back-bittersweet-moment Beer_Suitcase fucked around with this message at 06:41 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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As long as the US is spending defense dollars in stupid ways can we get an army unit to just run a M1 Abrams up and down that stretch of road? If a moose can stop a 108,000+ pound chunk of angry human forged steel moving at 50+ mph then we should yield and acknowledge that Moose are now the top species on the planet. The moose would win because the dumb humans didn't maintain their road infrastructure because TAXES BAD and the previously mentioned tank is sitting face down in a creek bed because the lovely road couldn't handle it.
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Feb 22, 2018 06:43
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Fabulousity posted:As long as the US is spending defense dollars in stupid ways can we get an army unit to just run a M1 Abrams up and down that stretch of road? Counterpoint: If invasion plan Sweden Alpha is ever a go, we will see a bunch of sick M1 on moose action on Liveleak.
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Feb 22, 2018 06:51
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goatsestretchgoals posted:This post is Pretty Good. Well, I got it. 
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Forgive this naive question: Did the overall camera image go dark due to the sudden release of a large amount of material that emits a shitload of light because it is hot and the sensor in the camera, probably CCD, responded accordingly? Or did the overall camera image go dark because fire sprinklers did what they are designed to do and rely on water's high specific heat to suck that thermal poo poo up, release it as steam, and save lives?
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Feb 22, 2018 07:26
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Fabulousity posted:Forgive this naive question: Looks like the camera sensor to me. I think there would be a lot more steam if sprinklers were on.
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Feb 22, 2018 07:27
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weg posted:Looks like the camera sensor to me. I think there would be a lot more steam if sprinklers were on. Also, wouldn't a sprinkler system, with the temps that molten mess has be at, be like releasing mini grandes? That molten metal would spatter everywhere.
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Feb 22, 2018 07:34
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How does one clean that up once it’s cool?
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Feb 22, 2018 08:14
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i found a photo of the driver's side 
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Feb 22, 2018 08:23
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Ron Jeremy posted:How does one clean that up once it’s cool? very carefully
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Feb 22, 2018 08:24
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quote:Video from 2016 commercial Salmon season Prince William Sound several boats in the area most of which were from a family of bullies claiming their so called turf. The boat that rammed this boat was being ran by a 27 year old female who was also being peer pressured by her uncles In the audio you can actually hear her yell get the gently caress out of here! https://i.imgur.com/Xf9Ngee.mp4 Edit: here's an article all about it https://craigmedred.news/2016/10/14/true-fish-war/
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Feb 22, 2018 08:28
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:https://i.imgur.com/Xf9Ngee.mp4 She's been charged with assault with a weapon.
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Feb 22, 2018 08:38
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Jesus christ the anchor swinging into frame where dude's head just was.
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Feb 22, 2018 08:40
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Dillbag posted:i found a photo of the driver's side Isn't that where the airbag deploys? That would turn her dumb face into swiss cheese.
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Feb 22, 2018 10:05
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Dillbag posted:i found a photo of the driver's side come at me takata
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Feb 22, 2018 10:07
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i did this as a child but with a longer rope and sat on the skateboard, it was great and nobody got run over but there was a special school assembly telling us to stop it because someone evidently complained to the school that we were being dangerous, though my parents didn't seem to care 
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Feb 22, 2018 11:34
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Ron Jeremy posted:How does one clean that up once it’s cool? Couple angle grinders and a push broom.
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Feb 22, 2018 12:03
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Dillbag posted:i found a photo of the driver's side Well that's going to be a very festive shotgun blast for emergency services to pick through.
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Nice piece of fish posted:Isn't that where the airbag deploys? That would turn her dumb face into swiss cheese. Yep 
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Feb 22, 2018 12:31
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I was poking around the basement of some building, I don't even know what to say about this.... It belongs here
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Feb 22, 2018 13:17
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chrisgt posted:I was poking around the basement of some building, I don't even know what to say about this.... It belongs here Well did you open it?
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Feb 22, 2018 13:18
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chrisgt posted:I was poking around the basement of some building, I don't even know what to say about this.... It belongs here Please adhere to the tagout checkout policy. 
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Feb 22, 2018 13:27
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My house didn't come with a death valve 
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Feb 22, 2018 15:18
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The Bloop posted:My house didn't come with a death valve You just haven't found it yet.
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chrisgt posted:I was poking around the basement of some building, I don't even know what to say about this.... It belongs here You know you want to
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Powerful Two-Hander posted:i did this as a child but with a longer rope and sat on the skateboard, it was great and nobody got run over but there was a special school assembly telling us to stop it because someone evidently complained to the school that we were being dangerous, though my parents didn't seem to care  the only thing my parents did was quickly find some rope instead of the bungie cords we had dug up, since as amusing as having half a bungie cord embedded in the back of the biker's head would be it'd probably also suck somewhat
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Beer_Suitcase posted:Where do you even start looking into accidents during the Manhattan Project. My grandpa worked at The Lab at the time, got irradiated and in 2007 died of bladder and endocrine cancer due to his exposure. I’m sorry about your grandpa, man  I don’t know a lot about the Manhattan Project specifically, but here’s some stuff I dug up — basically, my technique has been to read general-audience articles, then track down their sourcespaper from 1979 about survivors of the demon core accidents Plutonium in Man, 1971 review of plutonium ingestion / injection, discusses Manhattan Project-era incidents ”The Human Plutonium Injection Experiments”, long 1995 article expanding on the same topic as the 1971 article wiki article on Albert Stevens, who survived a massive dose of plutonium in 1945 that’s all the stuff I had on hand, though I’m certain there’s much much more to be found. approximately a fuckton of stuff from about that time was declassified in the 1990s, so (garbage-quality) scans exist on various government websites
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Forgive me for being blunt but I think that working at Los Alamos in 1944 and dying of cancer 63 years later doesn't really imply causation. The way some doctors look at it is that everyone will always get cancer eventually, and the trick is just to delay it long enough that you're killed by something else instead.
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Feb 22, 2018 17:25
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weg posted:The bio-robots. Also, don't forget the badass medals they gave these guys:  Dannywilson posted:This is a sign on one of the busiest roads in south-central Alaska: I saw those signs in and around Wasilla. I also saw a couple moose while hiking. They're huge, would hate to hit one or ever have to try to defend myself from one. I'd lose.
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Feb 22, 2018 17:31
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Sagebrush posted:Forgive me for being blunt but I think that working at Los Alamos in 1944 and dying of cancer 63 years later doesn't really imply causation. blunt, but yeah, that’s fair that reminds me tho: I completely forgot to post one article that’s really interesting: the Los Alamos tissue analysis program, aka trying to get tissue samples from everyone who ever worked there and determine how long, to what extent, and to what effect radiation exposure lingers in the body like, several of the people present at Slotin’s accident died “early”, but who knows if it would’ve happened anyway — Alvin Graves died of a heart issue, but there’s evidence it ran in his family. a few died of cancer, but that is also very common it’s really fascinating to me, but like with a lot of the medical history stuff I do, it’s a balance between “this is a really interesting case study” and “poo poo, man, that was someone’s dad”
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Sagebrush posted:Forgive me for being blunt but I think that working at Los Alamos in 1944 and dying of cancer 63 years later doesn't really imply causation. It could very well be related, just took a long time to happen. Not nuclear testing related, but Roger Ebert's cancer was caused by a radiation treatment in his ear when he was a child, and he didn't get cancer until he was 60.
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shelley posted:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unit_731 We learned a ton about how tough humans are, but at the cost of our humanity. Nocheez fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Feb 22, 2018 17:53
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Sagebrush posted:Forgive me for being blunt but I think that working at Los Alamos in 1944 and dying of cancer 63 years later doesn't really imply causation. I was about to say something similar -- at the risk of sounding like an insensitive jackass, that's a pretty good freaking run! I would figure that radiation-induced cancer is something that shows up and kills you relatively quickly.
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Sagebrush posted:Forgive me for being blunt but I think that working at Los Alamos in 1944 and dying of cancer 63 years later doesn't really imply causation. Well grandma did get a payout from the Radiation Exposure Compensation Act when he died. Thanks for all the resources, I'll be doing some digging. edit: it may not have been a payout from RECA. Beer_Suitcase fucked around with this message at 18:01 on Feb 22, 2018 |
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Feb 22, 2018 17:59
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Trabant posted:I was about to say something similar -- at the risk of sounding like an insensitive jackass, that's a pretty good freaking run! I would figure that radiation-induced cancer is something that shows up and kills you relatively quickly. Well, we do know that even a single exposure to the right stimulus can trigger the development of some types of cancer even decades down the line. Mesothelioma is the classic example -- you can be exposed to asbestos at age 20 and not develop the cancer until you're 60. I was just thinking more that if the guy was as young as he could be, an 18 year old army ditch digger or whatever, while he was working at Los Alamos, he still lived to be 81 years old. Maybe radiation contributed to the disease, but that's still an entire lifetime of other experiences and exposures that could be involved as well.
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Sometimes it’s the site of the cancer (especially multifocal cancers that occur simultaneously) and the type of mutation that tells us it’s likely tied to rads. It’s common for cancer cells to metastasize locally, but uncommon for two different cancers to occur right next to each other, or even in fairly well-removed areas. Some types of cancer cells you just don’t see unless they’ve been irradiated to cause an extremely uncommon mutation. Also, heart issues can very much be radiation-related. I’ve lost quite a few pts to the cardiovascular scarring that results from sternal radiation treatment for Hodgkin’s lymphoma.
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Bird in a Blender posted:It could very well be related, just took a long time to happen. Not nuclear testing related, but Roger Ebert's cancer was caused by a radiation treatment in his ear when he was a child, and he didn't get cancer until he was 60. My dad worked in the asbestos mines in Libby to pay for college. If the TV ads were right, he'd be dead of mesothelioma 53.7 times by now. Instead, he's walking around with a bit of scarring in his lungs and some light emphysema. tl;dr: cancer is fuckin' weird and complicated.
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I used to do Radioimmunoassay techniques in my laboratory work a couple of decades ago. I guess I'll die of cancer eventually.
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