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Nessus posted:I can see the point about being able to replicate anything causing problems for drama, though I think they kind of inadvertently stumbled into a reasonable balance where the replicator means you have food, clothing and corner-store hardware at will as long as the power's on. Bajor presumably has lovely infrastructure and the aftermath of decades of brutal occupation to deal with. Idea: the 24th-century equivalent of "salting the earth" is blasting the surface of the planet you're leaving with heavy  particles that can't be transported and make bulk conversion of mass for industrial replication impossible until the area is cleaned up through a laborious process.
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lmao transporters can even move omega particles with no issue
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Feb 23, 2018 22:43
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But they can't transport an orchid without splicing you and another person together.
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Feb 23, 2018 22:52
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I feel like that orchid should be a prized reagent for creating new and unexpected fusion cuisine, and fusion fashion.
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Feb 23, 2018 22:56
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I seem to recall somewhere that replicators couldn't handle complex meals well. Which makes sense as the best cooking is about a blend of flavors and textures. So a cook would be in high demand as they would actually make flavor happen. Earl Gray makes sense then as tea is just flavored water. But then how much trouble is replicating tea versus simply heating water and soaking a packet? And do they replicate the plates and the cups and saucers and...know what, gently caress replicators. SpeakSlow fucked around with this message at 23:54 on Feb 23, 2018 |
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Feb 23, 2018 23:48
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Also, replicators can't replicate literally anything. Off the top of my head, Latinum can't be replicated and neither can the McGuffin from Code of Honor.
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Feb 24, 2018 00:00
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Neither can dilithium or whasefadsf
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Replicators got worse and worse through the various series as they became more and more of an obstacle to telling stories with conflict. In season 1 TNG they made food better than the real thing such that no humans ate meat, cooking was a niche hobby for weirdos who preferred surprises to always having the perfect version of every dish, and also it made you the best martini you ever had in your life. Later on replicated booze became inferior to the real handmade artisanal stuff, then meals became bland compared to the flair of even an amateur chef, and by the end of Voyager replicators were burning roasts half the time and you'd better know how to cook or keep an ample supply of peanut butter and jelly on hand.
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Feb 24, 2018 00:09
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VitalSigns posted:I feel like that orchid should be a prized reagent for creating new and unexpected fusion cuisine, and fusion fashion. 
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The Bloop posted:lmao transporters can even move omega particles with no issue But not polyester!
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Feb 24, 2018 01:09
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I wonder if you can replicate warp particles
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marktheando posted:Now I’m thinking about that self replicating minefield from DS9. Everyone acted like it could keep going forever, but it had to run out of energy to repair itself eventually.... right? After The War posted:
Mines explode, destroying starship. Starship debris is broken down and replicated by adjacent mines into replacement mines.
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They harvested... mumble, mumble Wormhole Radiation mumble, mumble... so that was the only place they could have done it. Yup, Rom was even more of a genius than we thought!
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cheetah7071 posted:The episode did go out of its way a few times to say that Kirk and Spock value their female officers just as much as their male officers which was nice. It also has the only indication I've seen so far of Uhura being more than a space secretary One of my favorite Uhura bits (outside of TAS) is when Sulu gets tapped for an away mission and Kirk tells her to take the conn. So she's a qualified watch stander, which is an important career qualification for a naval officer.
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mllaneza posted:One of my favorite Uhura bits (outside of TAS) is when Sulu gets tapped for an away mission and Kirk tells her to take the conn. So she's a qualified watch stander, which is an important career qualification for a naval officer. Yeah she’s definitely pretty competent officer. She also takes the science station at least once when Spock is conked out. She was even command track at first, at least until the production staff decided she photographed better in red. I have to say it‘s always been kind of depressing to me that the other shows/movies never followed up on that. At least Sulu finally got his own command.
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mllaneza posted:One of my favorite Uhura bits (outside of TAS) is when Sulu gets tapped for an away mission and Kirk tells her to take the conn. So she's a qualified watch stander, which is an important career qualification for a naval officer. She's the communications officer, making her the fourth ranked officer behind Kirk, Spock, and Scotty.
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Bobbin Threadbare posted:She's the communications officer, making her the fourth ranked officer behind Kirk, Spock, and Scotty. Though by all appearances, she's fifth behind Sulu as well. mllaneza posted:One of my favorite Uhura bits (outside of TAS) is when Sulu gets tapped for an away mission and Kirk tells her to take the conn. So she's a qualified watch stander, which is an important career qualification for a naval officer. One little touch I like about TNG is that Crusher is noted to be a watch stander, and that she's typically in command during the night shift. Sounds like as good a justification as any for why she never does much in the show, most ships probably have a whole night shift crew we never see.
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Sulu comes after Scotty but before Uhura. When Kirk and Spock are unavailable it’s either he or Scotty who takes command, never Uhura (barring TAS where they could get away with more). Scotty ranks him but probably can’t be spared in some emergencies/may not have the same operational expertise.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXtBwr3pR30&t=52s
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Feb 24, 2018 02:22
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Earl Grey is just recycled Worf piss
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skasion posted:Sulu comes after Scotty but before Uhura. When Kirk and Spock are unavailable it’s either he or Scotty who takes command, never Uhura (barring TAS where they could get away with more). Scotty ranks him but probably can’t be spared in some emergencies/may not have the same operational expertise. I always assumed that was the same reason Bones never took command. He was always busy in sickbay or on the away team. Wasn’t he a full Commander in TOS?
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I always assumed that was the same reason Bones never took command. He was always busy in sickbay or on the away team. Wasn’t he a full Commander in TOS? No, just Lt Cmdr, he gets promoted offscreen sometime before TMP. However, in the actual US Navy, a physician would be a staff corps officer and not a line officer so generally would not be considered qualified for command at sea even if he were highest in rank (any navy goons feel free to correct me on this).
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FuturePastNow posted:Earl Grey is just recycled Worf piss only the lower stream tho edit: this has been your weekly reminder that it is now canon that klingons have two dicks
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skasion posted:No, just Lt Cmdr, he gets promoted offscreen sometime before TMP. However, in the actual US Navy, a physician would be a staff corps officer and not a line officer so generally would not be considered qualified for command at sea even if he were highest in rank (any navy goons feel free to correct me on this). That's pretty much it. Bones might end up commanding a hospital ship, or a research or medical lab,or even become head of Starfleet Medical, but he's not going to be commanding a cruiser like Enterprise.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:only the lower stream tho Which makes sense, since Star Trek is about one-third as good as Babylon 5....
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FuturePastNow posted:Earl Grey is just recycled Worf piss I'd like to get my hands on that fellow Earl Grey and tell him a thing or two about tea leaves.
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I knew a lawyer in the Marines once. He was theoretically a major but he just prosecuted people.
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in like the normal navy, like scotty does.. uh, would like the chief engineer get dragged out of th engine room (?? is this where tehy would be?? on a boat??) all covered in like grease and poo poo... to... command?? wtf?
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Feb 24, 2018 05:11
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fire all torpedoes, commands somwhat autistic engineer guy whos claim to fame was learning linear algebra on his own in 2 weeks as a teen and being able to memorize huge blueprints, as well and deep knowledge of all trains, boats, and plane gearing ratios
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Apparently there was at one point controversy over the question:wikipedia posted:The absorption of ship engineers into the line was the result of conflicts in the chain of command; as staff officers, engineers were not authorized to command ships, but when in battle the engineer was in charge of maneuvering the ship while under steam power, which occurred usually during battle. An exchange of open letters in 1878 voiced line officers' concerns that discipline was suffering because engineers were sometimes of higher rank than the ship's second-in-command executive officer. The assimilation of engineers as line officers was a compromise that clarified the chain of command and elevated the status of engineers. This move made the United States Navy unusual, as other modern navies such as the Royal Navy still have a separate engineering corps. Due to the increasing complexity of ships' engineering systems after World War II, commanding officers were themselves required to undergo basic engineering training.
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skasion posted:Apparently there was at one point controversy over the question: This kinda lines up with TNG in that even Picard and Riker are familiar with basic engineering stuff.
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Maybe I'm dumb but what exactly is the point of people who are never going to be giving orders, like doctors and lawyers, having a rank at all?
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cheetah7071 posted:Maybe I'm dumb but what exactly is the point of people who are never going to be giving orders, like doctors and lawyers, having a rank at all? In reality, it's for pay and seniority purposes. In Star Trek? Who knows.
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I always assumed that was the same reason Bones never took command. He was always busy in sickbay or on the away team. Wasn’t he a full Commander in TOS? Bones specifically mentions not being a line officer in A Taste of Armageddon. mossyfisk fucked around with this message at 06:39 on Feb 24, 2018 |
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skasion posted:Apparently there was at one point controversy over the question: really interesting to read. like u kinda see echos of the same thing in jobs requiring technical stuff or computer stuff. sometimes the "thing doer" guy or gal is the defacto captain when poo poo hits gets real. i work in live theatre lol which doesnt sound like a good analogue but like if your whole tech stack shits the bed while youre loading the house, the guy who makes the calls is a technical guy. as military becomes increasingly detached from reality and we replace soldiers with drones and cyber weapons are deployed it will be interesting to watch the types of people who end up in the command chair. kinda seems like the conclusion was already reached with literal steam engines. cool
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I just watched The Changeling. Is uh...is nobody gonna care at all that the Uhura they've known for years is essentially dead, and a brand new woman is in her body now?
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Feb 24, 2018 07:40
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Women are interchangeable in canon
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Didn't she come back knowing Swahili? I think that indicated that all the bits were still there, they just needed to be reconnected.
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TOS isn't canon. It's just the retelling of the adventures of Kirk as told to children by their bigoted parents.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:only the lower stream tho Huh?
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they have 2 dicks.
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