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WattsvilleBlues
Jan 25, 2005

Every demon wants his pound of flesh

Smythe posted:

they have 2 dicks.

Citation needed!

What about female Klingons, two doots?

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Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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There is a scene of a Klingon pissing in Discovery recently. There are two streams, suggesting that the Klingon has two urethral openings, and thus, potentially, two penises. (Perhaps more accurately, hemipenes.)

It is unclear whether this indicates that everything is a grotesque dystopia, or is merely an accurate representation of the cruel, penis-splitting nature of humans.

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

quote:

That was an ongoing writers’ room debate. According to canon, Klingons have two organs, they have two of everything, right? So … we had this debate, when we say two of everything, does that include the penis?… I think this was something that [EP/Director] Akiva [Goldsman] really liked the notion of. He just kept joking, “Klingons have two dicks, Klingons have two dicks.” And then finally showed it on television.

Source

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Re: replicators, many problems would've just been solved if they just said that most higher tech components can't be made in them because they use <quantum>, and therefore have to be manufactured with specialised equipment.

In fact, I've always just assumed that was the case, even unstated.

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Feb 24, 2018

FabioClone
Oct 3, 2004

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

WattsvilleBlues posted:

Citation needed!

What about female Klingons, two doots?

Lorca makes fun of lady Klingon for doing it with a human who doesn't even have the right number of organs for her... so yes

Senor Tron
May 26, 2006


I don't think it's something that needs a ton of worry.

It's canon that larger things like starships have to be built rather than being replicated, just say that replication uses a butt ton of energy and gets exponentially more expensive the larger an object becomes. Starships are just able to do it because they have said butt tons of energy going spare.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


"TVLine: Will Star Trek fans nitpick the Enterprise?"

I dunno I've never heard of Trek fans nitpicking before. :thunk:

MikeJF
Dec 20, 2003




Senor Tron posted:

I don't think it's something that needs a ton of worry.

It's more about having a convenient out when you need some story limits for the plot. Establish it well and early and you don't even need to mention it every time that they can't replicate [solution].

MikeJF fucked around with this message at 12:45 on Feb 24, 2018

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

cheetah7071 posted:

Maybe I'm dumb but what exactly is the point of people who are never going to be giving orders, like doctors and lawyers, having a rank at all?

Lots of reasons. It's to enforce the judgment of those professionals via the chain of command by giving them authoritative power. It's to ensure they are properly authorized to deal with matters of military security in the first place. And, this is the real important thing, to keep them from just loving off because it sucks to be deployed.

skasion
Feb 13, 2012

Why don't you perform zazen, facing a wall?

cheetah7071 posted:

I just watched The Changeling. Is uh...is nobody gonna care at all that the Uhura they've known for years is essentially dead, and a brand new woman is in her body now?

No more than they care that Scotty straight up loving died and got “repaired” with alien super science. Despite everyone (including Nomad) acting like she’s irreparably hosed up at first, she also speaks Swahili unprompted in the cringeworthy “blue-ee?” scene so clearly her memory wasn’t nuked down to the bedrock. In that context I guess Bones saying she’s back up to college level education at the end of the episode is meant to suggest that her memory was never seriously damaged and a bit of education made it all come back to her, not that future learning techniques are so good and cool that you can be educated from completely illiterate to college level in a day and from there to totally competent starship bridge officer in a week. But the episode’s handling of the situation is so dopey it’s hard to be sure.

She does seem to have a bit less of a predilection for bursting into song later though. Subtle bit of unusual character continuity? Show growing increasingly unwilling to focus on anyone but the big three as studio pressure to succeed increased and budgets dropped? Who knows.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

Lots of reasons. It's to enforce the judgment of those professionals via the chain of command by giving them authoritative power. It's to ensure they are properly authorized to deal with matters of military security in the first place. And, this is the real important thing, to keep them from just loving off because it sucks to be deployed.

Also at least in the US military your pay is tied to your rank. It's simpler for everyone to have a rank than to have multiple pay systems.

E: I really wish they sold the Quark's mugs from The Quickening. Especially if they played the song.

Grand Fromage fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Feb 24, 2018

Itzena
Aug 2, 2006

Nothing will improve the way things currently are.
Slime TrainerS

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I always assumed that was the same reason Bones never took command. He was always busy in sickbay or on the away team. Wasn’t he a full Commander in TOS?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003YCP8YE/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1


A legit good Star Trek novel; Kirk's exploring a peaceful planet and gives McCoy the conn as a "It's quiet and you're always being sarcastic about command, see how you like it!" thing. And then Kirk disappears and the Klingons show up...

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Grand Fromage posted:

E: I really wish they sold the Quark's mugs from The Quickening. Especially if they played the song.
I could be wrong, but I thought they sold those at Star Trek The Experience in Vegas back in the day

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


FlamingLiberal posted:

I could be wrong, but I thought they sold those at Star Trek The Experience in Vegas back in the day

Ugh, they shut that down like a year before I was working in Vegas for a bit. Totally enough of a pathetic nerd to have gone.

shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-19...1AAAOSwtudad3Lq

I've never actually seen what these mugs were, the ones with the wide base and skinny top from the replimat, here's an auction for one in box.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Oh man they were almost going to build an entire 1701-A on the Strip? gently caress that would've been great. And that was the perfect era for building dumb expensive poo poo in Vegas.

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

The Quark mugs, for context:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kg8o__6bEEY

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.

Itzena posted:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B003YCP8YE/ref=dp-kindle-redirect?_encoding=UTF8&btkr=1


A legit good Star Trek novel; Kirk's exploring a peaceful planet and gives McCoy the conn as a "It's quiet and you're always being sarcastic about command, see how you like it!" thing. And then Kirk disappears and the Klingons show up...

I really want to read this now. I’ve been on an old TOS novel kick since reading How much for just the planet?.

Pakled
Aug 6, 2011

WE ARE SMART

It's funny how in all of the "advertising" we see for Quark's, Quark himself is the face of the bar. You'd think, being a businessman, Quark would go with something more marketable like a mascot or a Dabo Girl.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Grand Fromage posted:

Oh man they were almost going to build an entire 1701-A on the Strip? gently caress that would've been great. And that was the perfect era for building dumb expensive poo poo in Vegas.

Everyone was excited for it to happen: the designers, the city of Las Vegas, the Trek producers, practically all of Paramount management. The land and money were lined up.

They went into a meeting to present to the CEO for final approval. If he gave the thumbs-up there would have been a press conference a week later announcing that a hundred million dollars was going to be spent to build a full-scale model of the Enterprise in Las Vegas.



He declined because he was afraid if it failed it'd be a lingering embarrassment.

Farmer Crack-Ass
Jan 2, 2001

this is me posting irl

Pakled posted:

It's funny how in all of the "advertising" we see for Quark's, Quark himself is the face of the bar. You'd think, being a businessman, Quark would go with something more marketable like a mascot or a Dabo Girl.

There are many businessmen who frequently make decisions based more on ego than anything else.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

He declined because he was afraid if it failed it'd be a lingering embarrassment.

But Circus Circus already cornered the lingering embarrassment market.

Epicurius
Apr 10, 2010
College Slice

Big Mean Jerk posted:

I really want to read this now. I’ve been on an old TOS novel kick since reading How much for just the planet?.

Diane Duane's Star Trek novels are pretty good. I read Dark Mirror when I was in college. it was a lot better than what DS9 did with the Mirror Universe. You had mirror universe Troi as loyalty officer, who got a sadistic thrill out of reading minds. You had Picard picking up a mirror universe Shakespeare book, and reading the ending of Merchant of Venice, where Shylock cuts out Antonio's heart while Portia mocks a dying Antonio for agreeing to the deal, and then seeing the mirror universe bible and just deciding he's not even going to look. It was just a good book.

McSpanky
Jan 16, 2005






mossyfisk posted:

Bones specifically mentions not being a line officer in A Taste of Armageddon.

I see someone else watches H&I for their all-Trek rerun blocks :hfive:

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Farmer Crack-rear end posted:

There are many businessmen who frequently make decisions based more on ego than anything else.

Yeah, we elected one as president. :suicide:

Grand Fromage posted:

Ugh, they shut that down like a year before I was working in Vegas for a bit. Totally enough of a pathetic nerd to have gone.

Quark's at the Experience was the first stop in a night that led to the single worst hangover of my entire life.

Grand Fromage
Jan 30, 2006

L-l-look at you bar-bartender, a-a pa-pathetic creature of meat and bone, un-underestimating my l-l-liver's ability to metab-meTABolize t-toxins. How can you p-poison a perfect, immortal alcohOLIC?


Timby posted:

Quark's at the Experience was the first stop in a night that led to the single worst hangover of my entire life.

Woke up in the Gamma Quadrant with no pants

Bobbin Threadbare
Jan 2, 2009

I'm looking for a flock of urbanmechs.

Pakled posted:

It's funny how in all of the "advertising" we see for Quark's, Quark himself is the face of the bar. You'd think, being a businessman, Quark would go with something more marketable like a mascot or a Dabo Girl.

Quark is the face of the bar in his bar, too. He works shifts as the bartender all the time even though he could hire someone else and spend more of his time on money-making schemes. Like he says at one point, he's a people person.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Bobbin Threadbare posted:

Like he says at one pointin the best goddamn scene of the entire show, he's a people person.

:colbert:

I love that that scene was added at the last minute because the episode was looking to be three minutes short on time and they needed padding.

Grand Fromage posted:

Woke up in the Gamma Quadrant with no pants

Swap Sahara for Gamma Quadrant and that's roughly accurate, yes.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

Quark is his brand. People can trust* him, and they can see the effort he puts into his business everyday. It's like a car dealership, Big Jim's Chevrolet. Big Jim is in the commercials, he's on the flyers, and he's out on the floor more often than not, because customers tend to feel more positively towards a business which is personified.

You have a mascot when you're unable to use the actual head of the company for whatever reason.

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

Blade_of_tyshalle posted:

You have a mascot when you're unable to use the actual head of the company for whatever reason.

Exactly. Hence the Vorta.

Lester Shy
May 1, 2002

Goodness no, now that wouldn't do at all!

shovelbum posted:

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-19...1AAAOSwtudad3Lq

I've never actually seen what these mugs were, the ones with the wide base and skinny top from the replimat, here's an auction for one in box.

I've had one of these forever! I'd never seen another one until I started watching DS9 a few months ago.

mycomancy
Oct 16, 2016

Timby posted:

Exactly. Hence the Vorta.

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TheCenturion
May 3, 2013
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Big Mean Jerk posted:

I really want to read this now. I’ve been on an old TOS novel kick since reading How much for just the planet?.

Rules of Engagement was one of my favorites.

Blade_of_tyshalle
Jul 12, 2009

If you think that, along the way, you're not going to fail... you're blind.

There's no one I've ever met, no matter how successful they are, who hasn't said they had their failures along the way.

The Vorta are pretty good mascots, honestly. They're how the Dominion would like to be seen, as non-threatening and diplomatic benefactors who nonetheless are to be taken seriously and treated with utmost respect.

bull3964
Nov 18, 2000

DO YOU HEAR THAT? THAT'S THE SOUND OF ME PATTING MYSELF ON THE BACK.


Star Trek: The Experience in Vegas was amazing and I was so glad I was able to go there before it closed.

I had a Warp Core Breach at Quarks and then went and walked on the bridge of the Enterprise D (yes, I know not all the details were correct.) Good day.



Almost 10 years ago now.

I was there August 9th 2008. It closed September 1st.

bull3964 fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Feb 24, 2018

Timby
Dec 23, 2006

Your mother!

That Vegas night I mentioned began with three Warp Core Breaches. :suicide:

Big Mean Jerk
Jan 27, 2009

Well, of course I know him.
He's me.
My one enduring memory of the Experience (aside from the huge models hanging in the lobby) was an enormous guy wearing a Tuvok shirt pointing out every single inaccuracy on the ride and grilling the gift shop employees on why the other shows had more merch available than Voyager.

I’m 40% sure it was one of you guys.

Nessus
Dec 22, 2003

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Big Mean Jerk posted:

My one enduring memory of the Experience (aside from the huge models hanging in the lobby) was an enormous guy wearing a Tuvok shirt pointing out every single inaccuracy on the ride and grilling the gift shop employees on why the other shows had more merch available than Voyager.

I’m 40% sure it was one of you guys.
Squeeze it, buddy! (I would never wear a Voyager shirt)

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



I got to go in 2007/2008 sometime before they closed and it was cool. They had some really committed character actors milling around the Bar.

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The Bloop
Jul 5, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
I also got to check it out just a month or two before it closed. Didn't order any drinks, though. Might have if they had a Ferengi tending bar.

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