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If you have a problem with listening to music made by terrible people with terrible opinions maybe black metal is not for you
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Mar 1, 2018 15:39
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CRIP EATIN BREAD posted:I won't even listen to a black metal band unless they have at least one former member in prison for murder, and at least 75% of the band members have criminal records. free lil faustie
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Mar 1, 2018 16:32
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There's a lot of good black metal made by people who aren't nazi's or otherwise openly bigoted. They might still be bad people, but that's where I personally choose to draw the line.
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Mar 1, 2018 16:33
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What ever happened to just shrieking about Satan in a nondescript Norwegian forest?
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Mar 1, 2018 16:39
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Dyna Soar posted:Emperor in the year 2018 isn’t really worth it. Ive seen em a couple of times at big fests and its been super underwhelming. They were loving awesome when I saw them in 2014 so ymmv i guess The Muppets On PCP posted:free lil faustie He's out of prison now he's also a worse drummer than Trym, hence why he only got allowed back for one year
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Mar 1, 2018 16:43
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Dyna Soar posted:If you have a problem with listening to music made by terrible people with terrible opinions maybe black metal is not for you Christianity ruined our heritage! You know, our Viking pillage and rape heritage. It’s not exactly a rational argument.
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Mar 1, 2018 16:47
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Vargatron posted:What ever happened to just shrieking about Satan in a nondescript Norwegian forest? People stopped being shocked by satan, he's bush league controversy now. So an escalation was necessary.
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Mar 1, 2018 16:48
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il_cornuto posted:There's a lot of good black metal made by people who aren't nazi's or otherwise openly bigoted. They might still be bad people, but that's where I personally choose to draw the line. Most if not every 2nd wave black metal band least flirted with nazi symbolism and hate speech. Im not saying i agree with any of that poo poo, just that drawing the line there means that even darkthrone is off limits.
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Mar 1, 2018 16:59
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Darkthrone are the one big exception that I personally make. Mostly because (to my knowledge) Fenriz has never tried the "I was just trolling" cop-out and instead acknowledges that yes, he really was that racist back then, which he now regrets. Somehow, that makes the nazi poo poo on and surrounding Transilvanian Hunger fine to me, possibly because I have brain problems
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Mar 1, 2018 17:05
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There are a couple of edge case exceptions I make for probably totally hypocritical reasons, yeah. It's a personal choice anyway and I'm not claiming anyone else should do it so I reserve the right to listen to what I feel comfortable listening to. That said, if Fenriz started ranting about white genocide tomorrow I would stop listening to them.
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Mar 1, 2018 17:21
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I too used to practise the mental gymnastics of an anti-fascist black metal fan lol. Maybe ive become jaded an cynical. I wouldnt wear a burzum shirt tho, but only because i dont want people to make assumptions of my political beliefs based on my terrible fashion sense
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Mar 1, 2018 17:30
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i have no dog in this fight because i don't give a poo poo about black metal, but it seems a little silly getting upset at a bunch of norwegian edgelords who grew up in the 70s and 80s vs their parents' generation who were actual nazi collaborators
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Mar 1, 2018 18:25
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Metallica - $165 for the nosebleeds. Suck my loving cock Lars.
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Mar 1, 2018 18:52
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There's no room for nazi poo poo in black metal because it's always OK to punch a nazi and you can't blastbeat if someone else is noseblasting you edit: also because its 2018, cmon. sing about anything else you want just dont be shitheads
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Mar 1, 2018 19:03
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Vintersorg posted:Metallica - $165 for the nosebleeds. Suck my loving cock Lars. I think that comes with the $400 lower bowl "VIP" package.
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Mar 1, 2018 20:27
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Shame he's got no rhythm
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Mar 1, 2018 20:41
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xui06jwWaAM
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Mar 1, 2018 20:54
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I’ve definitely shifted to the nature/mystical/occult side of black metal. I used to be leery of it but now it’s my poo poo. Satan hate jams stuff rules but not when it’s the same poo poo aping the old bands in the same way forever. Unless it’s good then that’s okay. I don’t know what my point is.
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Mar 1, 2018 20:54
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tote up a bags posted:There's no room for nazi poo poo in black metal because it's always OK to punch a nazi and you can't blastbeat if someone else is noseblasting you i don't think there's actually that much good NSBM, and even if there's some good stuff there's a shitload more good non-NSBM to listen to. so eh, it comes down to can you listen to music made by a racist rather than can you listen to music that has racist lyrics. i can Kilometers Davis posted:I’ve definitely shifted to the nature/mystical/occult side of black metal. I used to be leery of it but now it’s my poo poo. Satan hate jams stuff rules but not when it’s the same poo poo aping the old bands in the same way forever. Unless it’s good then that’s okay. I don’t know what my point is. like walknut for example. perfect nature themed black metal, but one of the dudes is/was a huge raging nazi. do i let that stop me from enjoying walknut? nah
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Mar 1, 2018 21:09
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Mustaine has gone alex jones conspiracy like crisis actors and blackie lawless went full on trump suporter,but gently caress im still listening to peace sells and crimson idol. The answer is stop giving them money. Also,see a fash,punch a fash.
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Mar 1, 2018 21:34
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Dyna Soar posted:one more and i'll stop! This was super good, thanks for sharing it. Smirr posted:Darkthrone are the one big exception that I personally make. Mostly because (to my knowledge) Fenriz has never tried the "I was just trolling" cop-out and instead acknowledges that yes, he really was that racist back then, which he now regrets. Somehow, that makes the nazi poo poo on and surrounding Transilvanian Hunger fine to me, possibly because I have brain problems I think of all the dudes still running around from that early scene, Fenriz seems the most down to earth. I make an exception for Burzum because I genuinely like most of the albums, but I also acknowledge that Varg is a massive piece of poo poo and Ive never spent a dime on his records because I don't want to financially support his dumbass.
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Mar 1, 2018 21:35
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I hate the concept of separating the artist from the art (you can’t ya dang idiots) but I practice accepting that people you dislike aspects of or beliefs of can often have enough good in them to create art that resonates with you. It’s unfortunately hard to do but it works for me. No one is perfect but everyone has something unique that may be worth paying attention to.
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Mar 1, 2018 21:41
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GAK39PHFAk
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Mar 1, 2018 21:42
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If we're still posting underappreciated 90's death metal, I offer Immortal Fate: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tyh_VGtHd7k
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Mar 1, 2018 21:48
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You can't link st. anger spoofs without including this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lU-UI3_6HcM Which is the best critique out there of why the album was so loving bad, once you fix the drums it's got some good stuff.
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Mar 1, 2018 21:57
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😎 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEEXE2GZRlI
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Mar 1, 2018 21:59
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Excellent I needed some Children of Bodom worship today.
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Mar 1, 2018 22:04
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I'm probably a lunatic but i like listening to evil music made by actual crazy and or terrible people. It's like the evilness is more intense and real. It's more credible and i think it's better to use that negativity to create music than actually hurting people. I can't listen to dumb racism and nazism though.
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Mar 1, 2018 22:07
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xzzy posted:Which is the best critique out there of why the album was so loving bad, once you fix the drums it's got some good stuff. nah it still sucks rear end
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Mar 1, 2018 22:16
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xzzy posted:You can't link st. anger spoofs without including this: Not as good as the Lulu re-record: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NN0hAky6rnc Henrik Zetterberg fucked around with this message at 22:20 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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Mar 1, 2018 22:18
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Klaaz posted:I'm probably a lunatic but i like listening to evil music made by actual crazy and or terrible people. It's like the evilness is more intense and real. It's more credible and i think it's better to use that negativity to create music than actually hurting people. I can't listen to dumb racism and nazism though. yeah, i can relate. on the topic of obscure 90s stuff, does anyone of of more good obscure godflesh worship like this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvdOp5E8aCg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnNnvTkwYGI i know meathook seed, pitchshifter, sonic violence, scorn, fudge tunnel, skin world, dead chamber etc. i've been on a huge industrial kick lately and need more stuff, hah
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Mar 1, 2018 22:23
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Klaaz posted:I'm probably a lunatic but i like listening to evil music made by actual crazy and or terrible people. It's like the evilness is more intense and real. It's more credible and i think it's better to use that negativity to create music than actually hurting people. I can't listen to dumb racism and nazism though. Yeah, I love pure hatred coming out of bands sometimes. It's so raw and real. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dt6p0TldOlw
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Mar 1, 2018 22:42
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So is Alcest pronounced al-sest like English or al-say like French That’s been bugging me for a long time
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Mar 1, 2018 22:59
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I'm betting "alses"
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Mar 1, 2018 23:04
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Vintersorg posted:Yeah, I love pure hatred coming out of bands sometimes. It's so raw and real. I can feel it coming in the air tonight, oh Lord
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Mar 1, 2018 23:06
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COOL CORN posted:So is Alcest pronounced al-sest like English or al-say like French Apparantly Neige said it's pronounced al-sest but I couldn't find an actual source on that in the 30 seconds I looked.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:10
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that neige's post punk black metal hybrid band was real good. amesoeurs i think? i especially love the singer
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Mar 1, 2018 23:19
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I love everything he does. His shoegaze album loving ruled. Also I've been saying AL-kest incorrectly.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:23
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I'm lukewarm on a lot of his stuff, but when I'm in the right mood I can really get into Ecailles de Lune and Kodama.
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Mar 1, 2018 23:25
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have you heard this? i think the band broke right after they released this. a shame https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIRfTgbiWVA Dyna Soar fucked around with this message at 23:39 on Mar 1, 2018 |
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Mar 1, 2018 23:30
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