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Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


Divorce the husband before dad dies.

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loquacius posted:

Usually by 19 years old guys at least figure out that not doing anything doesn't work

hahahahaha

don longjohns
Mar 2, 2012

Cough Drop The Beat posted:

I'm loving the buried "I'm helping my abusive, barely present shithead dad launder money and not turning him in for some reason" lede.

Yeah I wish she wasn't enabling him but I get it.

My biodad is a scumbag. He claimed me as a dependent for years when I never lived with him and told me to use his VA benefits to go to school for free. Sounds like a dream? Yeah, not so much when the requirement was to keep speaking with my abuser, and have him demand I never work and come live with him every break and after college. Also he demanded I switch majors and was up to his usual scummy behavior when I visited. Much worse stuff than that happened but I don't want to share.

So I cut off contact and claimed Independent by Exception. As a result I found out he got audited. Nothing came of it of course because he is made of Teflon, but it felt good to be free of him. The debt is worth it.

Honestly, though, I wouldn't hold it against anyone else for fleecing an abusive family member for everything they have if given the opportunity. It would probably feel good to some people and I don't begrudge them that especially when an abuser has made me feel so powerless before.

Baronjutter
Dec 31, 2007

"Tiny Trains"

Caganer posted:

This is also why weeaboo guys who go to Japan can score hot GFs. If you think chores should be split 50/50 and women should have careers, you’re very very progressive and a great catch.

This is a big source of hatred and jealousy with a lot of first-generation asian dudes in my area. They can develop this huge chip on their shoulder and get all MRA/nationalist that "their" women keep getting "stolen" by local guys and are just enraged and baffled by the whole thing. Like it's such an alien idea that maybe some women don't want to be in a controlling one-sided relationship with a man-baby who can't cook or clean or do any chores and has no hobbies or interests because he wasted his entire life trying to min-max his academic and career growth and feels entitled to a reward.

Palpek
Dec 27, 2008


Do you feel it, Zach?
My coffee warned me about it.


Me [40F] with my [51 M] dating almost one year, took our first vacation with our respective children - 12 y/o kept everyone awake throughout the night until he got his dad to sleep with him.

quote:

This is not the first time I have been around his son - and his dad and I have slept in the same room/bed with his son present. We rented a house - my children and I came a day later - the previous night he had let his son sleep with him in the master bed I was going to be sharing with him - even though there were two single beds in the same room - son used our bathroom for showering, brushing teeth, taking dumps - even though I specifically arranged for two bathrooms so the adults would have a private bath and the children would have theirs.

I asked Dad why son kept using our bathroom and he stated that his son said the other was too small. (It was adequate for teenagers though) Son also stated that he couldn't sleep in the room he was in because no one was in there, too dark, no noise, no light (2 options for light with the bathroom and closet) - my son (17) was in the open room next door which connected to ours. His son literally continued to get up all the way until 2 AM keeping everyone awake until he finally got Dad to stay in there with him. My children and I got no sleep and of course Dad finally relented.

There were other issues - but it is obvious there is manipulation going on there and Dad just caves. Son complained about our bags being in their car, complained about having to check some of our bags with theirs. Son had the full expectation of sleeping in our room upon my first evening there. He also tried to do other things in there until I told him it was my room and that he needed to use his. I slept alone the rest of trip so son would be happy. It was supposed to be a vacation for all of us but there was very little to no time for us as a couple.

I let Dad know after I returned home that I felt non-existent on the trip - to which he only replied "Goodnight". He knew something was wrong and honestly I was on the verge of tears the entire time. His son can feel the way he wants to but isn't it his Dad's responsibility to set boundaries?? Isn't the kid too old to be sleeping with Dad???

tl;dr: Dad allows 12yo son to manipulate until he gets his way - like sleeping same room/bed with him instead of me. Is this relationship doomed?

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

1st AD posted:

hahahahaha

I knew this before 19 and I was a loving idiot as a teenager :colbert:

DACK FAYDEN
Feb 25, 2013

Bear Witness

Haifisch posted:

My [22F] biological father [40s] is about to die and leave me his “fortune”. My husband [24M] is being weird and possessive about the money
I feel kinda bad that her splurging if she inherited a million would be "buy a quality pair of pants and finally get myself a haircut" :(

John Wick of Dogs
Mar 4, 2017

A real hellraiser


My splurge would literally just be: pay off the mortgage, start a college trust fund for my kid, pay my parents what they owe on my college loans, and put the rest in retirement. Maybe enough aside for a trip to Japan. Continue working for 10-15 years.

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

pidan posted:

Lol this dude doesn't understand that the solution is to give his frumpy wife an expensive makeover. Take her to a make up artist, hairstylist, personal stylist before the event and she'll fit in well and probably even be thankful for the experience. Art least more thankful than if you hide her at home.

Also your manager buddies will be quietly jealous of your happy marriage to you pudgy old wife that is founded on love and companionship instead of two people trying to get the best deal.

Depending on the environment, a holiday party / chance to hobnob with the execs is literally having everything about you get judged. From your appearance to your mannerisms to the way you interact with people in the room, there's a certain expectation that goes with upper management and a lot of time and effort gets spent trying to find people who can do it.

It's fascinating that not only is this dude well aware that if he went the comparison would be super unfavorable to his wife if they went, but that it would be an unpleasant experience for all of them. The execs wouldn't see someone that looks "like management material" ie matches them as closely as possible. The wife would likely feel out of place - she seemed fairly unhappy just from getting informed about why he was reluctant, I can't imagine the actual experience would go well. And the husband would be frustrated as well given that it wouldn't be a successful outing for scoring points with the execs.

So yeah, this dude isn't like giving her poo poo about her appearance or asking her to change how she does things. I do have a feeling that it's going to be an issue moving forward - if he's climbing the ranks and working hard, and she's slowly letting herself go and gaining weight and kinda aging ungracefully, I would expect trouble in paradise :shrug:

And the thing about people being jealous of like a "real relationship" uhhh I don't know maybe you've been in totally different circles than I have, but lol

dudeness
Mar 5, 2010

:minnie: Cat Army :minnie:
Fallen Rib

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I love video games and pizza too, but I also love comfortable retirement plans.

He found the perfect woman and he's gonna tank it all for some dumb poo poo. Hopefully her dad put his money in a trust so that she doesn't have to split it with her husband at the divorce.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Ham Sandwiches posted:

So yeah, this dude isn't like giving her poo poo about her appearance or asking her to change how she does things. I do have a feeling that it's going to be an issue moving forward - if he's climbing the ranks and working hard, and she's slowly letting herself go and gaining weight and kinda aging ungracefully, I would expect trouble in paradise :shrug:

it sounds like the husband is a shallow misogynist fucker who is choosing his career over his family and is low key warning his wife that he'll divorce her so he can marry a trophy wife to conform with the other shallow misogynists who he's chosen to lord over his financial security

the best play for her here is to hang on until he cheats, get it documented, then completely gently caress him over in divorce court. ideally he'll get crushed and end up miserable and alone

Khorne
May 1, 2002

dudeness posted:

He found the perfect woman and he's gonna tank it all for some dumb poo poo. Hopefully her dad put his money in a trust so that she doesn't have to split it with her husband at the divorce.
If they don't have a prenup that protects inheritance, retirement, and pre-existing assets then she should just divorce him now.

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

boner confessor posted:

it sounds like the husband is a shallow misogynist fucker who is choosing his career over his family and is low key warning his wife that he'll divorce her so he can marry a trophy wife to conform with the other shallow misogynists who he's chosen to lord over his financial security

the best play for her here is to hang on until he cheats, get it documented, then completely gently caress him over in divorce court. ideally he'll get crushed and end up miserable and alone

Or maybe she can keep looking the way she wants to look and he can keep climbing the ladder and she can be like "yeah I guess this holiday party for fake stepford wives is not the place to go because its neither a party nor a fun thing but a shark tank style ladder climbing social positioning exercise"

Why push for the party, I just don't get it. Obviously there are deeper problems but yeah this particular case seems like an easy resolution. And if she wants to look differently or present a different image, I think that's her choice.

Theophany
Jul 22, 2014

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Cough Drop The Beat posted:

I'm loving the buried "I'm helping my abusive, barely present shithead dad launder money and not turning him in for some reason" lede.

He is not laundering money, it's a shithead assumption from a kid. HMRC is poo poo hot on any kind of tax fraud.

That does not, however, diminish the general level of intolerable "I worked to get to where I did" from UK boomers who were able to buy properties for £10k which have now appreciated to £500k or who got 'gold plated' defined benefit pensions and seem to conflate 'stacking the system in their favour' as 'pulling themselves up by their bootstraps' and thereby moaning about the younger generations.

I'm gonna cum so hard when this lovely economic house of cards collapses when enough of them die out that their gravy train vmaxes into a loving wall.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Ham Sandwiches posted:

Or maybe she can keep looking the way she wants to look and he can keep climbing the ladder and she can be like "yeah I guess this holiday party for fake stepford wives is not the place to go because its neither a party nor a fun thing but a shark tank style ladder climbing social positioning exercise"

Why push for the party, I just don't get it. Obviously there are deeper problems but yeah this particular case seems like an easy resolution. And if she wants to look differently or present a different image, I think that's her choice.

he straight up called his wife a fat slob, to her face

the resolution here is divorce. he's totally checked out of his marriage because he cares so little about his wife he'll just casually drop that he thinks she's a hideous cow because she isn't a perky young adult any more. he's choosing his career ambitions over his wife and kids, aka his family. he's trash

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

boner confessor posted:

he straight up called his wife a fat slob, to her face

After she gained a bunch of weight and he didn't bring up the issue until she started pushing for the party as an explanation for why he doesn't want her to go. Like from her post she's pretty taken aback which means this is news to her, as in, it wasn't a recurring theme prior to this.

Anne Whateley
Feb 11, 2007
:unsmith: i like nice words
15-20 pounds, after 13 years and 2 kids, is not "a bunch of weight"

Smirking_Serpent
Aug 27, 2009

My (29f) brother (18m) is changing is name to "Typhoon" with an equally unique last name. My parents are apoplectic. Do I stay out of it or should I try to convey that these are different times and adults have an expectation of autonomy?

Going to try to keep this short as possible. As it is, my parents had 4 girls and when my brother was born he was almost seen as a god delivered from heaven to my dad. My dad is "John Smith V" and I think it actually ate at him that he wouldn't be able to give the world a "John Smith VI."

Well my dad and brother never really got along because my brother never wanted to play football, baseball or any of the other things that my dad thought "men" should do. My brother from the time he could turn on TV was fascinated with professional wrestling and it's been his passion ever since. Though he's not big enough to be in the ring, he works for a local wrestling promotion, does wrestling podcast, and even did an internship for a small WWE connected promotion and even met most members of the McMahon family encouraged him to go to school keep with the internships in order to work for them someday. My brother is a living example of someone recognizing their passions and making them happen.

My brother just turned 18 and decided that he's no longer going to be "John Smith VI" he's legally changing his name to "Typhoon Torturer" (it's not exactly that, but you get the idea). My parents are beside themselves, my dad especially. My younger sister got pregnant when she was 14 and I don't think they took that as hard as they are taking this name change.

Why I'm asking the question, I am the oldest sibling and it's always fallen on me to be the "peacekeeper" between my parents, siblings, dogs, cats, you name it. I can see both sides of this argument but what it comes down to is that I think my brother should be able to change his name and I don't think I'm actually neutral in this.

Should I try to talk to my parents (as I usually would) or should I finally just stay out of it and let them figure this out?

tl;dr: My brother is planning on changing his name from "John Smith VI" to "Typhoon Terror." My parents (Mr and Mrs John Smith V) are coming unglued. Should I try to convince them that my brother is within his rights to do this or should I just stay out if it.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Ham Sandwiches posted:

After she gained a bunch of weight and he didn't bring up the issue until she started pushing for the party as an explanation for why he doesn't want her to go. Like from her post she's pretty taken aback which means this is news to her, as in, it wasn't a recurring theme prior to this.

20lbs is not a bunch of weight

sorry dude but you're defending a moron here who can't stop himself from blowing up his marriage and family because his mind is clouded by entitlement dreams of loving a model. it's only a matter of time before this dude's dick makes his life worse and he'll deserve every ounce of misery he invites. maybe let's not go to bat for the dude so simmering with contempt with his wife for her crime of daring to age in his presence

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

Anne Whateley posted:

15-20 pounds, after 13 years and 2 kids, is not "a bunch of weight"

If 110 is an attractive weight and 130 with love handles is not then not in an absolute sense but it can affect people's attractiveness quite heavily

Like when a movie star puts on 20 lbs after a shoot the paparazzi have fun taking those photos

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Definitely coming down on the side of "if you tell your wife to her face that you cannot show her to your colleagues because she is a fat ugly slob you should not be in your marriage"

They gotta divorce, and as the Shallow Rich Guy Dumping His Wife For Not Being Hot Enough, he will naturally lose a lot of money in the deal. It is the way of things.

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Ham Sandwiches posted:

If 110 is an attractive weight and 130 with love handles is not then not in an absolute sense but it can affect people's attractiveness quite heavily

Like when a movie star puts on 20 lbs after a shoot the paparazzi have fun taking those photos

middle aged fathers who can't get over their entitlement that they "deserve" a young hot wife forever are the kind of dudes who end up bitter broke alcoholics in old age confused as to why their kids never call

Marmaduke!
May 19, 2009

Why would it do that!?
You seem to be able to empathize with these ladder-climbing types Mr. Sandwiches, so maybe you'd know, but wouldn't turning up to a party for employees and wives without your wife also be a total faux pas? Or would the husband be hiring an escort for the evening?

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

boner confessor posted:

20lbs is not a bunch of weight

sorry dude but you're defending a moron here who can't stop himself from blowing up his marriage and family because his mind is clouded by entitlement dreams of loving a model. it's only a matter of time before this dude's dick makes his life worse and he'll deserve every ounce of misery he invites

Not at all, they're going to be going to a place where she'll be judged unfairly and he'll be judged unfairly too. It won't help his career and it won't be fun. Since it will be awful for both of them he just wants to avoid it. He's not asking her to change, he's asking her to not push going to this event that is not going to be a good match for them and potentially set his career back in the process.

I really don't see that narrative here about him wanting to date a model, sorry, just that this event seems like a bad idea for what he's trying to accomplish and she seems more preoccupied with being offended about it than being pragmatic about it.

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

Ham Sandwiches posted:

Like when a movie star puts on 20 lbs after a shoot the paparazzi have fun taking those photos

Ham, that's not a good thing. Don't use it as a rebuttal.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Marmaduke! posted:

Or would the husband be hiring an escort for the evening?

lol if he's been doing this all along

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Ham Sandwiches posted:

Not at all, they're going to be going to a place where she'll be judged unfairly and he'll be judged unfairly too. It won't help his career and it won't be fun. Since it will be awful for both of them he just wants to avoid it. He's not asking her to change, he's asking her to not push going to this event that is not going to be a good match for them and potentially set his career back in the process.

I really don't see that narrative here about him wanting to date a model, sorry, just that this event seems like a bad idea for what he's trying to accomplish and she seems more preoccupied with being offended about it than being pragmatic about it.

yeah it's weird how she would be preoccupied with being offended when her husband calls her a fat slob who is so ugly she's risking his career with her bovine nature, how dare she take that as an insult

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

Marmaduke! posted:

You seem to be able to empathize with these ladder-climbing types Mr. Sandwiches, so maybe you'd know, but wouldn't turning up to a party for employees and wives without your wife also be a total faux pas? Or would the husband be hiring an escort for the evening?

You can say your partner was busy / traveling / engaged / couldn't attend and then there's no way for people to judge their appearance. Like all other things her presence or absence will be noted and added to the "List of exec traits.xls" spreadsheet ledger for the evening. Again it depends on the environment and the cultural norms there, but it's fairly easy to manage in most cases imo.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Kids a dumb if he makes a stage name his legal name especially in wrestling where a lot of people have to do different names before one sticks, but I 100% support him not being a Sixth of anything.

Actually, he could pobably play an excellent heel using his original name.

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

Every so often I wonder why permabanned user Tiny Bronto decided to fixate on me in a thread that also contains Ham Sandwiches

loquacius
Oct 21, 2008

But no seriously that's my headcanon for this post: Rich VP Guy has been hiring a 19-year-old escort named Kimmy Sparxx to play his wife at company parties, and he can't show up to one with his real wife all of a sudden or his colleagues would discern his ruse

Ham Sandwiches
Jul 7, 2000

tactlessbastard posted:

Ham, that's not a good thing. Don't use it as a rebuttal.

It's not a good thing, but it's a thing, there are certain circles where people are judged by their appearance and it sucks but it also exists. Actors are absolutely one of them, as are models and broadcasters on TV etc.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Like imagine you do a double hispanic match and then John Smith VI runs in to perform the Deporter on both of them so the two hispanic dudes agree to put aside their differences and take down John Smith the Sixth at Wrestlemania

wizardofloneliness
Dec 30, 2008

DACK FAYDEN posted:

I feel kinda bad that her splurging if she inherited a million would be "buy a quality pair of pants and finally get myself a haircut" :(

I figured maybe she’s already doing pretty well with what she has and doesn’t really need a lot more. I mean, I’m always hearing about celebrities who go bankrupt because they bought too many castles or have blown millions of dollars on a bunch of bullshit. I’m sure this lady could probably think of a few more things to spend it on if the money was actually in front of her, but I think it’s kind of nice that she just wants a really nice of pants.

edit: Also, a 38 year old woman having some grey hair and wrinkles is not “aging ungracefully.” That’s just “aging”. It happens to everyone.

wizardofloneliness fucked around with this message at 20:35 on Mar 2, 2018

boner confessor
Apr 25, 2013

by R. Guyovich

Ham Sandwiches posted:

It's not a good thing, but it's a thing, there are certain circles where people are judged by their appearance and it sucks but it also exists. Actors are absolutely one of them, as are models and broadcasters on TV etc.

also, in this woman's case, in her own home eating dinner etc.

loquacius posted:

Every so often I wonder why permabanned user Tiny Bronto decided to fixate on me in a thread that also contains Ham Sandwiches

dont take it personal, on a long enough time frame tiny bronto will call everyone a tiny dicked loser

Caganer
Feb 15, 2018

Baronjutter posted:

This is a big source of hatred and jealousy with a lot of first-generation asian dudes in my area. They can develop this huge chip on their shoulder and get all MRA/nationalist that "their" women keep getting "stolen" by local guys and are just enraged and baffled by the whole thing. Like it's such an alien idea that maybe some women don't want to be in a controlling one-sided relationship with a man-baby who can't cook or clean or do any chores and has no hobbies or interests because he wasted his entire life trying to min-max his academic and career growth and feels entitled to a reward.

otoh guys who have A Thing For Japanese Women are pretty creepy and i think it's valid to get annoyed if it's one of Those Types stealing your women.

Barudak
May 7, 2007

You do a backstage segment where John Smith starts asking around with some other wrestlers manager, lets say one with a super patriotic background, because he wants to talk to him then stuffs the manager in a locker saying “Do you know who i am??? Im John Smith the Sixth of the East essexs Smiths and I wont be talked to the way your wrestler treated me!”

Caganer
Feb 15, 2018

Ham Sandwiches posted:

Depending on the environment, a holiday party / chance to hobnob with the execs is literally having everything about you get judged. From your appearance to your mannerisms to the way you interact with people in the room, there's a certain expectation that goes with upper management and a lot of time and effort gets spent trying to find people who can do it.

It's fascinating that not only is this dude well aware that if he went the comparison would be super unfavorable to his wife if they went, but that it would be an unpleasant experience for all of them. The execs wouldn't see someone that looks "like management material" ie matches them as closely as possible. The wife would likely feel out of place - she seemed fairly unhappy just from getting informed about why he was reluctant, I can't imagine the actual experience would go well. And the husband would be frustrated as well given that it wouldn't be a successful outing for scoring points with the execs.

So yeah, this dude isn't like giving her poo poo about her appearance or asking her to change how she does things. I do have a feeling that it's going to be an issue moving forward - if he's climbing the ranks and working hard, and she's slowly letting herself go and gaining weight and kinda aging ungracefully, I would expect trouble in paradise :shrug:

And the thing about people being jealous of like a "real relationship" uhhh I don't know maybe you've been in totally different circles than I have, but lol

she claims she only gained 15lb... i'd like to submit that sometimes redditors are unreliable narrators

Vargatron
Apr 19, 2008

MRAZZLE DAZZLE


Ham Sandwiches posted:

If 110 is an attractive weight and 130 with love handles is not then not in an absolute sense but it can affect people's attractiveness quite heavily

Like when a movie star puts on 20 lbs after a shoot the paparazzi have fun taking those photos

Literally both of those weights are within normal BMI for a woman with the average US height of 5'4".

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ArbitraryC
Jan 28, 2009
Pick a number, any number
Pillbug

loquacius posted:

lol if he's been doing this all along
In the post she mentions she's actually been to quite a few of these dinners before and knows the dudes he's trying to impress and their wives. Kind of makes the situation even more odd because it's not like they haven't seen her before so the whole "being seen with you will hurt my public image!" is not just grossly offensive, but also competently nonsensical.

Dude's a total rear end in a top hat either way and their marriage is obviously over, sounds like it had already been deteriorating for a while and I can't imagine being able to bounce back from the hurtful things he said, but I would guess there's something else also going on that made it come to a head here.

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