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Saladman posted:...Honestly except for Brown Moses and the SA poster who got murdered in Benghazi (Sean Smith, if anyone hasn't been reading this thread that long and/or didn't remember), has anyone from this thread ever done anything remotely relevant or actually useful? A number of us invaded Iraq, but that's probably not what you're looking for.
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TapTheForwardAssist posted:A number of us invaded Iraq, but that's probably not what you're looking for. relevant yes; useful no. Well useful in giving this thread the unchanging part of its title I guess. On a slightly different subject: https://www.populationpyramid.net/qatar/2020/ https://www.populationpyramid.net/united-arab-emirates/2020/ I guess Cat Mattress fucked around with this message at 20:17 on Mar 2, 2018 |
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There's a couple other journalists besides BM who have been in this thread in years past, but they've all migrated full time to Twitter. BM just has an absurdly high tolerance for dumb, prejudiced internet commenters.
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Volkerball posted:There's a couple other journalists besides BM who have been in this thread in years past, but they've all migrated full time to Twitter. BM just has an absurdly high tolerance for dumb, prejudiced internet commenters. is the joke that Twitter is a poor choice for that criterion?
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GreyjoyBastard posted:is the joke that Twitter is a poor choice for that criterion? Main Twitter is bad but the chat groups are good.
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http://defence-blog.com/news/qatar-talks-russia-procuring-su-35-fighters.htmlquote:Russian presidential assistant for military-technical cooperation, Vladimir Kozhin revealed his government is in talks with the Qatar Armed Forces about supplying Su-35 multirole fighter jets. Next step: the FC-31.
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The Qatari airforce museum is going to have a a great "Early 21st century fighter aircraft" section in years to come. The 'gotta catch em all' Pokemon theory, except applied to ruinously expensive modern military aircraft.
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SA has them beat for "who has the most military equipment that does the same thing but made by different countries?" Looking at the SA Army's Wikipedia page is pretty nuts. They have three different types of self-propelled 155m howitzers, one from the US, one from China, and one from France.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:SA has them beat for "who has the most military equipment that does the same thing but made by different countries?" Looking at the SA Army's Wikipedia page is pretty nuts. They have three different types of self-propelled 155m howitzers, one from the US, one from China, and one from France. When you make sure you pay off everyone you'll always have friends. At least until the money runs out.
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Just Chillin with my bros!
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Things are looking pretty dire for the YPG in Afrin. There are reports that over 30 Assad aligned militia men were killed in a Turkish airstrike. Turkish forces have advanced to the outskirts of the town of Jandaris, the second or third largest town in Afrin canto after Afrin itself and maybe Tal Rifaat.
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Al-Saqr posted:Just Chillin with my bros! I feel like a lotta news stories on MBS already neglect the fact he kidnapped Hariri (like reading a WaPo piece on how MBS "entered the world stage" with the Qatar crisis). Glad to see these guys have forgotten about it too! 
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Darkman Fanpage posted:SA has them beat for "who has the most military equipment that does the same thing but made by different countries?" Looking at the SA Army's Wikipedia page is pretty nuts. They have three different types of self-propelled 155m howitzers, one from the US, one from China, and one from France. 
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Squalid posted:Things are looking pretty dire for the YPG in Afrin. They never had much hope of holding off mechanized infantry and a modern air force in the hinterlands. The urban warfare will be a different picture, but even if they hold the Turks off in the towns, the civilians are going to suffer horribly. Hopefully Afrin doesn't become the next East Aleppo.
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Darkman Fanpage posted:SA has them beat for "who has the most military equipment that does the same thing but made by different countries?" Looking at the SA Army's Wikipedia page is pretty nuts. They have three different types of self-propelled 155m howitzers, one from the US, one from China, and one from France. From what i know, they can't get everything from a single country, i'm not exactly sure if its some international law or the countries who sell them arms limit what they sell. But its why gulf countries have a bunch of stuff from various countries.
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Fizzil posted:From what i know, they can't get everything from a single country, i'm not exactly sure if its some international law or the countries who sell them arms limit what they sell. But its why gulf countries have a bunch of stuff from various countries. You might think that but in regards to the self-propelled howitzers they have 50 each from China and France and 600 from the US, so it really makes no sense other than as Orange Devil says. Orange Devil posted:When you make sure you pay off everyone you'll always have friends.
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https://twitter.com/LizSly/status/969893882606641153?s=19
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The last time this happened he actually did bomb Syria so all we can say for sure is hell do something dumb
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Yeah shouldn't you be happy Trump is having a knee jerk reaction to something and potentially going to start WW3?
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Yeah shouldn't you be happy Trump is having a knee jerk reaction to something and potentially going to start WW3? The scenes in Ghouta have been playing themselves out for years all over Syria. The only reason Trump is talking about it now is because of the publicity surrounding it, but the movement gave up on intervention years ago, and is just there to raise awareness and make victims feel like they haven't been completely forgotten by the world. Nobody is going to do anything.
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Do we have any idea what Assad is going to do with a turkish standing army occupies a quarter of their country?
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Holy loving poo poo, Trump really is Wilhelm II reborn
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Libluini posted:Holy loving poo poo, Trump really is Wilhelm II reborn I sincerely use Trump as the basis for my mental images of Tsar Nicolas and Kaiser Wilhelm.
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Duckbox posted:They never had much hope of holding off mechanized infantry and a modern air force in the hinterlands. The urban warfare will be a different picture, but even if they hold the Turks off in the towns, the civilians are going to suffer horribly. Hopefully Afrin doesn't become the next East Aleppo. Yeah I was just going to ask about Afrin the city. Would the YPG defend it to the bitter end, or surrender and spare its destruction? Lots of civilian causalities could make things interesting. What would the US, Russia, and the EU say to hundreds of Kurdish/Syrian deaths at the hands of Turkish warplanes? How would Assad react?
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Likely the same as for Ghouta. No one outside the usual bleeding heart appeals would actually care. Doubly so, since this time it's a NATO ally doing it.
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The few places who acted as though they gave a gently caress about piles of dead Syrians never went to war against Assad. Why would they go to war with the vastly more powerful and influential Turkey over a much smaller pile? They aren't even carpet bombing cities or using internationally banned weapons (yet). ISIS was the only murderous faction in this conflict to actually draw international intervention (at least against them rather than on their behalf), and they were a much easier target both operationally and politically. Warbadger fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Mar 4, 2018 |
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The war in Syria is a domestic matter. Other countries should not intervene, but should instead promote dialogue between parties. ISIS was a trans-national movement that was exporting terrorism. Foreign intervention was warranted.
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I think when a government starts dabbling in concentration camps and mass graves it starts to get pretty loving ridiculous to handwave it away as a domestic matter.
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Volkerball posted:I think when a government starts dabbling in concentration camps and mass graves it starts to get pretty loving ridiculous to handwave it away as a domestic matter. No man it's ok because Assad is secular, you see
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svenkatesh posted:The war in Syria is a domestic matter. Other countries should not intervene, but should instead promote dialogue between parties. The "SAA" these days is a hodgepodge of Iranian military, trans-national sectarian militias (nice big chunk from Iraq), Russian regular military, Russian mercenaries, international terror/paramilitary organizations (Hezbollah), and the remains of the loyalist Syrian military. It's definitely trans-national. It doesn't export terrorism yet, aside from creating the conditions and events responsible for creating this whole mess, but that'll likely change when the militias and paramilitaries leave.
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https://twitter.com/jokerhk1992/status/970312543305633798?s=19 Very powerful picture from people in Ghouta, but  Volkerball fucked around with this message at 21:38 on Mar 4, 2018 |
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Warbadger posted:The "SAA" these days is a hodgepodge of Iranian military, trans-national sectarian militias (nice big chunk from Iraq), Russian regular military, Russian mercenaries, international terror/paramilitary organizations (Hezbollah), and the remains of the loyalist Syrian military. It's definitely trans-national. The Iranians and Russians are present in Syria with Assad's permission. That's different from the unprovoked American warmongering in Syria.
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An appeal to Assad's legitimacy in 2018. Good lord.
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Volkerball posted:An appeal to Hussein legitimacy in 2002. Good lord.
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Yes, surely a Sunni Islamist government would be a more legitimate ruler for Syria.
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svenkatesh posted:The Iranians and Russians are present in Syria with Assad's permission. That's different from the unprovoked American warmongering in Syria. The Americans are present in Syria with the SDF and regional Kurdish authorities permission. That's different from the unprovoked Russian and Iranian warmongering in Syria.
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Ah, so you're truther about American involvement in Syria huh
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svenkatesh posted:Yes, surely a Sunni Islamist government would be a more legitimate ruler for Syria. Democracy is only good if it elects people we like, eh?
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Volkerball posted:Democracy is only good if it elects people we like, eh? Is this a serious question? The answer is yes. What's the point of having democracy if the elected government's first step is going to be constitutional reforms that lead to absolute power (ala Egypt, after Morsi was elected), which inevitably is followed by persecuting minorities? A secular strongman > democratically elected Islamist populist, any day of the week.
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svenkatesh posted:Yes, surely a Sunni Islamist government would be a more legitimate ruler for Syria. Well their body count would certainly be lower than Assad's.
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