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Instant Sunrise posted:You know when you get through the Cajon Pass on your way to Vegas and everything starts smelling like rear end when you're like halfway to Barstow? Makes sense. Thanks
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Victorville gave us the band Face to Face so early 90s me is cool with it.
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Tuxedo Gin posted:unless you consider mockingly acknowledging its existence as "going to bat" for it. 
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Wasn’t Victorville trying to get a high speed rail hub built there so people would more or less be forced to stop there on the way to places that matter?
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Wasn’t Victorville trying to get a high speed rail hub built there so people would more or less be forced to stop there on the way to places that matter? They weren't alone. This is probably the reason the "test route" is being built in the rear end end of the Central Valley.
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Wasn’t Victorville trying to get a high speed rail hub built there so people would more or less be forced to stop there on the way to places that matter? The planned high speed rail to Vegas starts in Victorville
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Duckbox posted:They weren't alone. This is probably the reason the "test route" is being built in the rear end end of the Central Valley. Wait, which end is the rear end end?
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ProperGanderPusher posted:Wasn’t Victorville trying to get a high speed rail hub built there so people would more or less be forced to stop there on the way to places that matter?
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As someone who grew up in the High Desert, bless you all for dunking on my lovely hometown.
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Okay so Victorville is the terminus of the XpressWest high speed rail system that’s supposed to run from Victorville to Vegas. This is a privately funded and built one but is also Harry Reid’s baby. The California High Speed Rail has this weird dogleg out to Palmdale because they needed the support and funding from the Antelope Valley, instead of doing the sensible thing and using the Tejon Pass (grapevine) to cross the mountains from Sylmar to Bakersfield. With that said, one of the projects that LACMTA has on their to-do list is a freeway/HSR line between Victorville and Palmdale to connect these two high speed rail lines.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Wait, which end is the rear end end? All of them
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Raskolnikov38 posted:southern california continues to drag down the state and should be destroyed looks like we got a feinstein lover here, lads
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california ends at fresno
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withak posted:All of them Correct answer, and I say this as a former resident of Marysville.
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Lol at saying SoCal drags the state down considering that Twitter thread that just got posted. Don't even pretend that NorCal isn't full of some of the scummiest, most self absorbed people to walk the face of the planet since we decided it was our God given right to seize the state from Mexico
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This thread could be renamed 'Bay-Area Bitching' and none of the content would change.
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I'm so loving sick of the drivers here. I get that everyone is stressed but gently caress. The poo poo I am seeing on a daily basis is driving me mad.
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They're just dealing with the anger of having to pay an extra hundred bucks a month rent because they own a Corgi and their landlord thus treats them like some subhuman pet haver. Try to see it from their perspective!
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Panfilo posted:They're just dealing with the anger of having to pay an extra hundred bucks a month rent because they own a Corgi and their landlord thus treats them like some subhuman pet haver. Try to see it from their perspective! oh, cool, you brought this bullshit over into the other california thread
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Cup Runneth Over posted:Lol at saying SoCal drags the state down considering that Twitter thread that just got posted. Don't even pretend that NorCal isn't full of some of the scummiest, most self absorbed people to walk the face of the planet since we decided it was our God given right to seize the state from Mexico True, but also Irvine.
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm so loving sick of the drivers here. I get that everyone is stressed but gently caress. The poo poo I am seeing on a daily basis is driving me mad.
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Instant Sunrise posted:Okay so Victorville is the terminus of the XpressWest high speed rail system that’s supposed to run from Victorville to Vegas. This is a privately funded and built one but is also Harry Reid’s baby. Tejon Ranch Company owns all the land around the grapevine and wanted nothing to do with the project. Harris Ranch, Paramount Farms and other billionaires own everything else north of there along the 5 corridor and wanted nothing to do with it either. Remember, the initial goal of the project was to connect SF (area) to LA at high speed not Merced to Bakersfield at medium speed and hope the rest works itself out later - so the most direct route would have been ideal regardless of no "population" along 5. They all should have been forced at gunpoint to accept the high speed rail lines.  I still think the entire project was designed to never get done and be a failure/boondoggle to thwart any other similar projects from every being created and Jerry is just hoping that it can still just work somehow as planned. 
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Why didn't imminent domain come into play for establishing a high speed rail right of way through the middle of nowhere?
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Xaris posted:Uber/lyft has drastically made it much worse. death to all uber/lyft drivers. they're terrible drivers and a public menace putting bikers, peds, and everyone else in danger constantly doing stupid poo poo, driving erratically really slow, fast, just randomly slamming on the brakes stopping the middle of a high-volume street Why would you say death to Uber/Lyft drivers, and not death to Uber/Lyft themselves, which are the actual problem?
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I used to hate SoCal until I actually visited and met people there. I’ll definitely take your native Los Angeleno over your uptight, pretentious Bay Area native. Xaris posted:Uber/lyft has drastically made it much worse. death to all uber/lyft drivers. they're terrible drivers and a public menace putting bikers, peds, and everyone else in danger constantly doing stupid poo poo, driving erratically really slow, fast, just randomly slamming on the brakes stopping the middle of a high-volume street Doesn’t help that so many of them aren’t from around here and would be totally lost all the time if it wasn’t for GPSes.
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ProperGanderPusher posted:I used to hate SoCal until I actually visited and met people there. I’ll definitely take your native Los Angeleno over your uptight, pretentious Bay Area native. lol pretending that the entire population in a certain area all acts a certain way, is pretty fuckin stupid, FYI.
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Exactly what an uptight, pretentious Bay Area native would say
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I just wish bay area drivers would use their goddamn turn signals.
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Panfilo posted:Why didn't imminent domain come into play for establishing a high speed rail right of way through the middle of nowhere? Why doesn't it come into play constantly all over? Because of peoples freedoms or something. I dunno. Gotta break a few eggs to make an omelette. Some people are gonna get hosed but 20 years from now it will be so much better. They need to imminent domain the gently caress out of the state. Expand freeways in socal all over. Run more trains everywhere. Just say gently caress it and do it. Abloo abloo. It's easier for poors to get to marin now. So loving what. Oh no, a black person took bart to Danville and got off the train. gently caress you. This state is hosed. Build another bridge from Candlestick to the Oakland Coliseum area while you are at it.
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Waltzing Along posted:Expand freeways in socal all over. Revolutionary urban planning takes itt
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If you don't think expanding the 5 by a lane or two running through the metro area would help, I dunno what to tell you. Same with the 101. Alternately, just blow the whole place up. It's not like it contributes anything of value any more.
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I'm sorry to inform you that the future has no room for cars.
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Waltzing Along posted:If you don't think expanding the 5 by a lane or two running through the metro area would help, I dunno what to tell you. Pretty much the entire field of scientific traffic studies disagrees with you. Building more lanes won’t reduce traffic. Here’s a explainer from wired: quote:As a kid, I used to ask my parents why they couldn’t just build more lanes on the freeway. Maybe transform them all into double-decker highways with cars zooming on the upper and lower levels. Except, as it turns out, that wouldn’t work. Because if there’s anything that traffic engineers have discovered in the last few decades it’s that you can’t build your way out of congestion. It’s the roads themselves that cause traffic.
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I'm going to disagree. The 5 narrows to 3 lanes at points where any other freeway would be 5 lanes. There is no way that adding 2 lanes wouldn't help matters. Especially when it is 5 lanes on either side of that.
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Waltzing Along posted:I'm going to disagree. The 5 narrows to 3 lanes at points where any other freeway would be 5 lanes. There is no way that adding 2 lanes wouldn't help matters. Especially when it is 5 lanes on either side of that. Good job dismissing a bunch of peer reviewed science because it doesn’t agree with your gut.
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Trabisnikof posted:Pretty much the entire field of scientific traffic studies disagrees with you. Building more lanes won’t reduce traffic. It seems like it's saying it does work, but more people end up using the roads because of it.
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Panfilo posted:Why didn't imminent domain come into play for establishing a high speed rail right of way through the middle of nowhere? The "middle of nowhere" areas the HSR goes through are owned by the vast agriculture oligarchs who own the entire central valley and have enough power that they won't dare give up an inch of land to California withought a drawn-out legal fight.
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Waltzing Along posted:If you don't think expanding the 5 by a lane or two running through the metro area would help, I dunno what to tell you. I hope you realize how knee jerky and superficial your thought process is. Do the reading before you click post.
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It wouldn't be a California thread without the entirely one-sided "NorCal/SoCal" beef.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:california ends at fresno Yes. But it is an East/West dividing line.
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