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WhyteRyce posted:The breach stays open long enough for DeVoe to float his way through (or get dragged). He doesn't have to wait for DeVoe to go into his pocket dimension and close the breach before attempting to go through I guess they are working on the assumption that DeVoe could use a force field to block access to the portal, but once he's through, both the breach and the force field will turn off. Barry needs to be able to move fast enough to get through a closing breach.
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Titan posted:When he was in jail he ran that one guy to China and came back in a few seconds. If I remember right, in the comics Wally evacuates an entire city in a similar situation. Funny if you think about it - from his own perspective he still had to spend however long it would take to actually walk to China, while carrying a huge man, no less.
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Mar 9, 2018 09:52
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AlliedBiscuit posted:Dear god I went to Reddit (yes, I know) and goddamn do those people have an irrational hatred of Iris. Especially in reaction to her being the one who came up with the solution. I should have known but goddamn. Burn the site to the ground.
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Mar 9, 2018 09:53
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HUGE SPACEKABLOOIE posted:DEEVoe Q: are we not men?
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Mar 9, 2018 10:10
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They need to stop dropping that dumb "we are the flash!" line, but that aside Iris has been really good this season, mainly since she actually has things to do.
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Mar 9, 2018 10:17
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Iris acting as Play caller and lateral voice of reason is a pretty good role all things considered. It also gives more time for Cavanaugh to direct.
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Mar 9, 2018 10:22
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Avalerion posted:Funny if you think about it - from his own perspective he still had to spend however long it would take to actually walk to China, while carrying a huge man, no less. speed_force.html
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Mar 9, 2018 11:32
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So when Barry searches through a million paper files in a second, is he actually experiencing weeks of boredom? Can't zone out there! I already know the answer and it rhymes with weedhorse
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Mar 9, 2018 13:10
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WhyteRyce posted:I thought the first time Barry did the everything freezes thing was in the court room WhyteRyce posted:Also, Barry has known he can do this time freeze thing for quite awhile but he's having issues being fast enough to reach into Cisco's breach or whatever? kjetting posted:Because both times it has happened so far it has been a desperate subconscious reflex. Phenotype posted:I kinda wish they'd gone all the way with it and made it so Barry and Jesse were essentially powerless in Flash Time, since they're ALREADY moving at ludicrous speed just to walk around and talk to eachother inside that half-second. Avalerion posted:Funny if you think about it - from his own perspective he still had to spend however long it would take to actually walk to China, while carrying a huge man, no less. Argue posted:So when Barry searches through a million paper files in a second, is he actually experiencing weeks of boredom? Can't zone out there!
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Mar 9, 2018 13:26
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Rocksicles posted:She's black. Reddit doesn't enjoy sisters doing well. What do people dislike about Iris? I mean, I don't doubt you on the race thing, but I also doubt that "she's black" is the reason that most of them are giving out publicly. She was kind of a wet blanket in the first season or two, but since she's learned the secret and joined the team I've really liked her in terms of characterization, and she usually helps move the plot along instead of standing in the way like before, so...?
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Mar 9, 2018 14:31
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Phenotype posted:What do people dislike about Iris? I mean, I don't doubt you on the race thing, but I also doubt that "she's black" is the reason that most of them are giving out publicly. People think she doesn't "deserve" to be the team leader and think that position should go to more "qualified" people like Cisco or Wells. Reddit in general has a problem with female characters taking assertive roles that threaten the male characters' authority. I remember seeing a Reddit post a few months back praising Wells for "putting her in her place" (where he simply told her that as the leader of Team Flash, she must make tough decisions).
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Mar 9, 2018 18:59
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Phenotype posted:What do people dislike about Iris? I mean, I don't doubt you on the race thing, but I also doubt that "she's black" is the reason that most of them are giving out publicly. People wanted Iris to die and for Caitlin to be the lead before the pilot even aired. People send Candice racial slurs on Twitter and ridiculous hate mail. Never underestimate white people when it comes to racism.
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That was a cool episode. I'm fine with Barry over correcting on the "changing time" poo poo even if it didn't totally make sense. He has to cut it off cold turkey. No moving lines for the time fuckery addict. And as has been said, there seems to be a certain amount of Final Destination/karma fuckery into messing with time. Avalerion posted:Flash being way too fast aside - yep this ep was good. For those in the known, was dad Flash going to train a replacement a refference to anyone in particular? The "jittery" girl would be my best guess. Burning_Monk posted:Since they named her I assume the Eco Terrorist was someone from the comics? I remember seeing her casting being reported, but I think it was for Arrow? So maybe she's gonna be a recurring over there and they just had fun working in here first? Phenotype posted:What do people dislike about Iris? I mean, I don't doubt you on the race thing, but I also doubt that "she's black" is the reason that most of them are giving out publicly. Well she's also a woman, and lots of people on the internet hate them too. But "black" is definitely also big.
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Mar 9, 2018 20:30
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STAC Goat posted:The "jittery" girl would be my best guess. I thought we all agreed that's Barry & Iris's daughter from the future.
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Mar 9, 2018 22:22
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Avalerion posted:I thought we all agreed that's Barry & Iris's daughter from the future. Probably, but I'm speculating that she's not from our future but is actually from Earth 3 and is Jay's chosen protege and he's just being coy about not telling Barry and Iris and influencing stuff. Or something. I have no idea if that makes sense. I don't think we even know anything about Earth 3, do we? But that was just a first guess because I couldn't think of a lady Flash/speedster besides Jesse. But I haven't read in awhile.
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Mar 9, 2018 22:29
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Avalerion posted:I thought we all agreed that's Barry & Iris's daughter from the future. There’s nothing that says she can’t be Dawn Allen and Jay’s secret apprentice at the same time. But yeah I doubt it’s her that Jay was talking about.
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Mar 9, 2018 22:30
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In one episode hat woman was writing the same symbols Barry was drawing everywhere after leaving the speedforce. No idea who she is.
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Mar 9, 2018 22:38
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Titan posted:In one episode hat woman was writing the same symbols Barry was drawing everywhere after leaving the speedforce. Again, that's (the person everyone assumes is) Barry and Iris's daughter. She's shown up three times now, once at the wedding before the Nazis attacked in Crisis on Earth-X and then twice during regular Flash when she met Cisco and then Wells and Caitlin at Jitters. So far, crazy Speedforce scribbling aside she's just been the awkward clearly from the future girl. So who knows where they're taking her character.
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Mar 9, 2018 22:59
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Avalerion posted:Funny if you think about it - from his own perspective he still had to spend however long it would take to actually walk to China, while carrying a huge man, no less. I remember a Quicksilver comic explaining that he's a jerk because to him everyone is that slow person in line who doesn't move. He has to deliberately slow his speech to a crawl so other people can understand him and does a thousand piece puzzle while waiting for the other person to give a response during the course of normal conversation.
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Mar 9, 2018 23:09
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4000 Dollar Suit posted:Q: are we not men? A: not lately
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cirus posted:I remember a Quicksilver comic explaining that he's a jerk because to him everyone is that slow person in line who doesn't move. He has to deliberately slow his speech to a crawl so other people can understand him and does a thousand piece puzzle while waiting for the other person to give a response during the course of normal conversation. In Young Avengers, Speed (who was the son of the Scarlet Witch) at one point has a job where he does super speed assembly of items. He tells another character that while it looks like he just did everything in two seconds it was two subjective weeks for him.
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Mar 10, 2018 01:27
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muscles like this! posted:In Young Avengers, Speed (who was the son of the Scarlet Witch) at one point has a job where he does super speed assembly of items. He tells another character that while it looks like he just did everything in two seconds it was two subjective weeks for him. Is that the same character where they do a training exercise and when they’re done he suddenly has grey hairs and says he hasn’t eaten or slept in a month and that these training exercises are literally killing him? Because that was messed up.
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Mar 10, 2018 02:55
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Phenotype posted:What do people dislike about Iris?
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I just think she's a lovely reporter 
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Mar 10, 2018 06:57
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Iris is basically the Hawkeye of the group. Everyone else has their own drama to deal with while Iris is the most grounded and calm and thus has a clearer grasp on the situation.
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ApeHawk posted:Iris is basically the Hawkeye of the group. Everyone else has their own drama to deal with while Iris is the most grounded and calm and thus has a clearer grasp on the situation. For me the scene that solidified who Iris was as a character was during Season 2 when King Shark tears the roof off their house and Wally just freaks the gently caress out while Iris is just "Yep. It's Tuesday again."
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Titan posted:He moves at the speed of plot. The writers room was the Speed Force Prison all along!
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nine-gear crow posted:For me the scene that solidified who Iris was as a character was during Season 2 when King Shark tears the roof off their house and Wally just freaks the gently caress out while Iris is just "Yep. It's Tuesday again." This, plus punching Girder and shooting Clock King did it for me. Iris always had these random great character moments, it's just only recently they've allowed her to be her own person and explored who her character really is and can be.
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The biggest mistake they made early on was keeping Iris away from Team Flash. This meant she was frequently kept separate from the "actual" plot of the episode and had to subsist on subplots.
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WhyteRyce posted:I just think she's a lovely reporter
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FactsAreUseless posted:The writers don't know what reporting is. Comic book TV shows and movies all took their lead from Jack McGee from The Incredible Hulk
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Mar 10, 2018 21:01
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Dates a superhero. Carries a notebook sometimes. You know. A reporter.
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Mar 10, 2018 21:38
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I didn't know Jack McGee and David Banner were dating.
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Mar 10, 2018 22:16
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Chokes McGee posted:The writers room was the Speed Force Prison all along! That's the horcrux of the problem. It's not writing if you pull words out of a hat.
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Mar 10, 2018 22:25
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Rocksicles posted:That's the horcrux of the problem. Is that like a quizibuck of a problem? Some of Iris's issues got conflated with Felicity's character when the Olicity got REALLY bad and that spillover somehow attached itself to Iris. Part of the problem is that Grant Gustin seems to have crazy chemistry with anyone in a scene.
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They turned the happiest man in tights into a loving sad sack.
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Nodosaur posted:I didn't know Jack McGee and David Banner were dating. You're the only one 
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FactsAreUseless posted:The writers don't know what reporting is. Or literally any other job. Including TV writing.
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Having actually written for a newspaper, I was shocked at how realistically the profession was portrayed in Netflix/Marvel's "Daredevil". The reporter dude there was once a brilliant investigative journalist exposing injustice and corruption, but now had to hammer out cheap and fast reports about "thing that happened today" to fill the pages because of time restraints and bad economy. When Matt Murdoch handed him the facts about Kingpin he also couldn't just blow the whole thing right away, because as a journalist he needed credible sources and quotes first, and I don't even think he got to print the story at all. Then I realized my shock was because every other TV show ever has been terrible at writing that profession.
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Rocksicles posted:They turned the happiest man in tights into a loving sad sack. Idk tiny superman still seems to be having a blast over on supergirl 
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