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TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

Kilazar posted:

This was not my experience. Mine came shipped in a long tube, snug in it's black nylon bag. It was a 6x4.

When did you order yours? Because I had the same, but I got mine a few years ago before they changed manufacturers from the FAT mats

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1994 Toyota Celica
Sep 11, 2008

by Nyc_Tattoo
i slammed a rhino into a big brick of deep-struck space wolf skyclaws today. they'd plopped down on my flank behind LOS-blocking terrain, but still only 9" out. so i sent the tank around the corner, lit the wolves up with storm bolter shots and charged. The rhino took two turns of combat to die before exploding gloriously in the midst of its killers

TheArmorOfContempt
Nov 29, 2012

Did I ever tell you my favorite color was blue?
Well Gents, finished my last model for Adepticon.

mango sentinel
Jan 5, 2001

by sebmojo

Ilor posted:

What is this, some sort of Craftworld sept? Some sort of Ta'u'dari (Aeld'au?) alliance?

Y'vahra is a pricey Forge Wold mech but hilariously is not the £250 Taunar Supremacy Suit which seemed like the rear end in a top hat unit of choice for 7th edition.

Thanqol
Feb 15, 2012

because our character has the 'poet' trait, this update shall be told in the format of a rap battle.
So I've been trialling a new process for painting. Specifically, when I finish a model I don't paint in the base until I've done the entire army, at which point I do 'em all at once. It means that I don't get a steady flow of pictures but it does mean that when it's done I can drop my entire completed, cohesive army all at once. I did all this between December and today.

The Lore for these guys is sourced from the book Unremembered Empire in the Horus Heresy. In it, some rando Alpha Legion tactical squad dresses as Ultramarines, show up in Ultramar and are like 'hey we're Calth veterans, can we talk to Gulliman?'. Somehow everyone who's job it is to provide security for the Primarch between them and Bobby G totally fails to ding them and they just walk up to Roboute, fully armed, fully armoured, and unload their boltguns into him. Not like a full Alpharius op with distractions and backup and as a piece in a larger plan; they're totally alone and unsupported. But they still managed to shoot up Gulliman before two other Primarchs save his rear end.

Fuckin' legend. The dude who ran that squad is my Daemon Prince, and these guys are his warband: The Eight Scribes

Their primary skill is that they have a profound grasp of paperwork and Imperial standard operating procedure - which is probably really rare amongst Chaos warbands who spend all their time murderfucking each other to death. They're all very boring, staid individuals who will wait patiently in line, fill in all the forms required, keep up to date with Administratum politics, etc. Their warships just patiently cruise up to checkpoints, dock properly, and only then do they walk on board and kill everyone in a very polite and regular way. In between ops they go to great lengths to shove all their guts back into their bodies, clean up and shine their armour plates to parade ground standard, and from a distance they look like a perfectly ordinary wall of blue, white and gold covered in skulls.

Their greatest relic is a vial of Gulliman's blood that writhes in the grip of one of Nurgle's favourite plagues. When a sample is taken from this holy blood and implanted in an Ultramarine progenoid gland it allows a Scribe's Omophagea to digest information from Gulliman's mind. Previously this was just used for the Scribes to get tactical insight into how Gulliman might have planned a campaign, which grew increasingly less useful as time shifted tactics, doctrine and technology. Now that Gulliman is awake, however, the Scribes have a vector that allows them to read the mind of the Imperial Regent directly.

Naturally, Alpharius is keen to use this knowledge to take another shot at the big blue. The Eight Scribes are ghosting Gulliman's Indominus Crusade, and no matter how many spy cells they burn out the Ultramarines never get any closer to closing off the true fount of the Scribes' knowledge.

Design Principles:
- Line troops dress as Ultramarines in all particulars. Red helmets for squad leaders, white helmets for special weapons guys. Red shoulderpads indicate CQC specialists. The white kneepads are a field recognition code to each other, it has no meaning in the Ultramarine colour scheme.
- Vehicles sufficiently normal looking, Land Raiders, Predators etc, are also done up in the Ultramarine style.
- Anybody making unconventional entrances, or otherwise too hosed-up and mutated to be concealed, wear traditional Alpha Legion cerulean.
- Line troops adding Alpha Legion iconography or colours to their armour is a violation of OpSec and discouraged by Alpharius, but the Alpha Legion's curse has always been arrogance so it does still happen.
- Worship Nurgle as the ultimate infiltrator.
- Endgame is to assassinate and eat Gulliman, impersonate him, and drive the Imperium off a cliff.

Line Infantry:








Specialists:



Terminators:





Support Vehicles:



Daemon Prince:

Thanqol fucked around with this message at 06:44 on Mar 19, 2018

Hihohe
Oct 4, 2008

Fuck you and the sun you live under



Bluebonic plague dudes kick loving rear end

Hustlin Floh
Jul 20, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Thanqol posted:

The Lore for these guys is sourced from the book Unremembered Empire in the Horus Heresy. In it, some rando Alpha Legion tactical squad dresses as Ultramarines, show up in Ultramar and are like 'hey we're Calth veterans, can we talk to Gulliman?'. Somehow everyone who's job it is to provide security for the Primarch between them and Bobby G totally fails to ding them and they just walk up to Roboute, fully armed, fully armoured, and unload their boltguns into him. Not like a full Alpharius op with distractions and backup and as a piece in a larger plan; they're totally alone and unsupported. But they still managed to shoot up Gulliman before two other Primarchs save his rear end.

Good models and glad you put so much into the lore, but give Big Bobby some credit- he killed the squad by himself.

Thanqol
Feb 15, 2012

because our character has the 'poet' trait, this update shall be told in the format of a rap battle.

Hihohe posted:

Bluebonic plague dudes kick loving rear end

Thank you!

Hustlin Floh posted:

Good models and glad you put so much into the lore, but give Big Bobby some credit- he killed the squad by himself.

Thanks - you're right, I totally misremembered that!

Speckled Jim
Dec 13, 2008

Uroboros posted:

Well Gents, finished my last model for Adepticon.



Beautiful work dude!

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Irate Tree posted:

Behold his works, ye mighty and despair!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qEx2LQY_1W0

Lego and Warhammer, joining forces to drain bank accounts

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Uroboros posted:

Well Gents, finished my last model for Adepticon.



This is great dude. Is the whole thing ready with the display board? I'd love to see it all together.


Thanqol posted:

Daemon Prince:


Evil Guilliman is a treat. You paint insanely fast for the results you get btw, this is like your third army in six months isn't it?

Thanqol
Feb 15, 2012

because our character has the 'poet' trait, this update shall be told in the format of a rap battle.

Corrode posted:

Evil Guilliman is a treat. You paint insanely fast for the results you get btw, this is like your third army in six months isn't it?

Nine months - I started literally as soon as 8th dropped. And yes, I've finished a huge AdMech force, a smaller Eldar list, and I stripped and re-did my Dark Imperium Death Guard along with this force. Also did the Primaris DI guys but I don't think they count as an army. Thinking of stripping them too.

My output is pretty much down to an oath I made eight years ago to draw every single day, no excuses. I haven't missed a day since I made it. By this point it's such a deep habit that I instinctively structure my day to get minimum one hour in. I also just legit enjoy painting. It's everything I enjoy about art with none of the downsides that get me into artists block, so I'll happily spend 8 hours a day painting if given the opportunity. I don't think I'm painting fast, I'm just painting a lot.

EDIT: Notably, I totally eschew assembly line painting. I don't do it at all! It's deliberately inefficient but I don't enjoy it, I like lavishing attention on each model.

My next project is to finish up all the various misc figures I've collected but put aside because I didn't immediately know what I wanted to do with them. I've got some Harlequins, a Land Raider, a Helldrake, some Ruberics and a Lord of Change I picked up here and there without a coherent plan for. I'm going to see about polishing them all off so that I can come at my next big project - which is Orks - with a fresh mind and no backlog.

Oh, yeah, and I've got to do Mortarion as well. I haven't really decided what I want to do with him. Something pretty elaborate, I think - I saw that crazy human eyeball painted onto his wing and want to aim to do something similarly impressive.

Thanqol fucked around with this message at 09:51 on Mar 19, 2018

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Thanqol posted:

Oh, yeah, and I've got to do Mortarion as well. I haven't really decided what I want to do with him. Something pretty elaborate, I think - I saw that crazy human eyeball painted onto his wing and want to aim to do something similarly impressive.

Granted this is entirely influenced by my own now-dropped nurgle plans, but I dig the idea of a fully insectified Mortarion; insect wings, segmented carapace, bug head, hood replaced with a chitinous gorget, all that fun stuff. Could even replace the scythe you ganked off him with some tyranid scythe claw.

Thanqol
Feb 15, 2012

because our character has the 'poet' trait, this update shall be told in the format of a rap battle.

Neurolimal posted:

Granted this is entirely influenced by my own now-dropped nurgle plans, but I dig the idea of a fully insectified Mortarion; insect wings, segmented carapace, bug head, hood replaced with a chitinous gorget, all that fun stuff. Could even replace the scythe you ganked off him with some tyranid scythe claw.

... Okay. Okay. This sounds like exactly like the kind of project I'd love to do. I shall see about realizing your vision.

What bits would I need? Any specific kits that you've sized up that would be good? My greenstuff skills are not great so as many pointers as you can give me as possible.

BTW that scythe on Gulliman is Typhus's scythe, I just straight switched their weapons - they've got the same exact hand size so it worked perfectly.

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012

Thanqol posted:

... Okay. Okay. This sounds like exactly like the kind of project I'd love to do. I shall see about realizing your vision.

What bits would I need? Any specific kits that you've sized up that would be good? My greenstuff skills are not great so as many pointers as you can give me as possible.

BTW that scythe on Gulliman is Typhus's scythe, I just straight switched their weapons - they've got the same exact hand size so it worked perfectly.

Insect head from puppet wars would be my choice, assuming primarchs have the same size heads as SM's:
https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=92
https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=655
https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=670

They also sell vestigial insect arms:
https://puppetswar.eu/product.php?id_product=656
but those are also painfully easy to greenstuff: roll a thin line of the stuff, taper one end to a point, then bend at a 90 degree angle where you want the joint. Repeat for any other joints you want.

Insect wings the cheapest way is to pick a picture of clear bug wings you like, print them out on clear tracing paper, cut them out with an X-acto, then varnish both sides for protection and stiffness. Here's a pic of the end result:
http://23lines.blogspot.com/2008/07/commutatus-tyranid-gargoyle-conversion.html?m=1
But if you want something thicker I'd look into tyranids, or this pair:
https://wargameexclusive.com/shop/chaos/chaos-rotten-daemon-wings/
If that guy who used chicken bones to base is your idol, then you could always freeze and dissect a bug:
http://gaming.thecasavants.com/40K/40kTyr/c_wings.htm#dragonfly

Chitinous plate is actually not too hard to make; for the shape you want, then use alcohol to smooth the surface, then use ball-head shaping tools to crater the plate if you so wish. If you aren't confident in your shaping skills or ability to keep up with greenstuff curing i'd recommend super sculpey; no curing as you work, pleasant non-tacky feel and odor, lack of tack means you can safely press it against the mini you get a general feel for the shaping area and then remove for baking (which is how you cure it; baking on a sheet with foil for support, or boiling in a pot of water).

Neurolimal fucked around with this message at 11:35 on Mar 19, 2018

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Thanqol posted:

BTW that scythe on Gulliman is Typhus's scythe, I just straight switched their weapons - they've got the same exact hand size so it worked perfectly.

Is Typhus really huge or does this mean Guilliman has tiny baby hands?

e: The GW website just defaulted me to loving Japan of all places. Strikingly, the prices are in yen but the text is still all in English.
ee: When I change back to UK it's fine, then it goes back to Japan when I click on the 40k logo. Bizarre stuff.

Living Image fucked around with this message at 11:40 on Mar 19, 2018

Neurolimal
Nov 3, 2012
As an aside, I think its a cute detail that Mortarion forgets how to properly use a scythe between 30k and 40k.

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

Thanqol posted:

So I've been trialling a new process for painting. Specifically, when I finish a model I don't paint in the base until I've done the entire army, at which point I do 'em all at once. It means that I don't get a steady flow of pictures but it does mean that when it's done I can drop my entire completed, cohesive army all at once. I did all this between December and today.

These guys look great. Amazing work! I love the effort you put into the backstory.



Uroboros posted:

Well Gents, finished my last model for Adepticon.



This guy also looks great!

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine
Does anyone know what the (IRL) size of the Forgeworld Gorgon is?

I mean, it's literally a Higgins Boat on Baneblade tracks right?

Sure as hell looks like it, at least:

Foul Ole Ron
Jan 6, 2005

All of you, please don't rush, everyone do the Guybrush!
Fun Shoe
I just copped I can run my Black legion as a Alpha legion sleeper cell. I love the lore allows work arounds if you need to get gamey.

Beer4TheBeerGod
Aug 23, 2004
Exciting Lemon
So is it true that GW is expected to release a points update sometime this month?

xtothez
Jan 4, 2004


College Slice

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

So is it true that GW is expected to release a points update sometime this month?

Yeah they said it would be out towards the end of the month, after Adepticon.

Zuul the Cat
Dec 24, 2006

Grimey Drawer
I was running through my AdMech lists seeing if I had the 227 - 240 to take one Armiger. They...aren't that great. In fact, I think the Armigers need to come down a lot. I don't think they're going to mesh very well with AdMech competitively.

Dunecrawlers as of right now, kitted out with a Neutron Laser & Heavy Stubber, and an extra heavy stubber come in at 145 points.

The Armiger, with the Thermal Spear, Melta Gun & Chainsword comes in at 240.

Armigers can't benefit from re-rolls from AdMech HQs, can't get canticles (aside from that stratagem) and have 12 wounds, 3+ save and a 5++ Ion Shield. Onagers get the rerolls & canticles, have 11 wounds, a 3+ save and a 5++ invuln that can re-roll 1's if you're within range of another dunecrawler.

Thermal Spear is 30" range, D3 shots, D6 damage, melta rule. Neutron Laser is 48" range, D3 shots, D6 damage, minimum 3.

They certainly look cool, and I might try to run a few in friendly games, but lmao at paying almost another 100 points for something that isn't as good as what AdMech already have.

But I suppose it's going to be really good for all knight lists.

Hustlin Floh
Jul 20, 2009

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Schadenboner posted:

Does anyone know what the (IRL) size of the Forgeworld Gorgon is?

I mean, it's literally a Higgins Boat on Baneblade tracks right?

Sure as hell looks like it, at least:


If you want to get technical, the baneblade tracks/hull are a little bigger. Are you asking because you're attempting a Higgins Boat conversion? If so you can just mash it together with a baneblade kit and I don't think anyone will mind.

moths
Aug 25, 2004

I would also still appreciate some danger.



I assume there'll be a knight book in the future that makes better use of them.

Soggy Chips
Sep 26, 2006

Fear is the mind killer

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

So is it true that GW is expected to release a points update sometime this month?

What format would this take? Chapter Approved V2 or something?
Or would it be published online for all FAQ style

TheChirurgeon
Aug 7, 2002

Remember how good you are
Taco Defender

Soggy Chips posted:

What format would this take? Chapter Approved V2 or something?
Or would it be published online for all FAQ style

All online. They're committing to two major updates per year, one around March and the other in Chapter Approved, plus FAQs two weeks after each codex drops.

e: Link: https://www.warhammer-community.com/2017/12/15/the-future-of-faqs-and-chapter-approved-dec-15gw-homepage-post-2/

Artum
Feb 13, 2012

DUN da dun dun da DUUUN
Soiled Meat

Beer4TheBeerGod posted:

So is it true that GW is expected to release a points update sometime this month?

Not a points update thats chapter approved, whats coming this month is meant to be FAQs clearing up how rules work and possibly some errata for rules that turned out to be broken one way or another.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Soggy Chips posted:

What format would this take? Chapter Approved V2 or something?
Or would it be published online for all FAQ style

No-one really knows what this March update is going to consist of. It could be purely updated FAQs and nothing else. Most likely it'll include at least errata of obvious problems like the Relic of Lost Cadia and potentially Kurov's Aquila, which currently are missing conditions that they were almost definitely meant to have (one use only and "actually needing to be on the board" respectively).

Where it goes from there is open to speculation. Some people are expecting it to include actual changes - like changing points costs, or detachment requirements, or limiting the ability of CP recyclers to affect other factions. Whether that's borne out or not is yet to be seen, it's the first time it's happened so we don't know what they're going to do.

My expectation is that we'll get FAQs for sure, errata for clear misprints or text not working as intended, probably formalisation of the beta rules for Smite/character targeting, and maybe some big-ticket points increases on units which are clearly undercosted - so Dark Reapers, Shield-Captains on jetbikes, stuff of that ilk. The broader review of all points costs is likely to be saved for Chapter Approved, and I expect that the stuff from now will also be there assuming they're going to go the General's Handbook route like AoS where Chapter Approved collates any previous changes and then adds others.

Schadenboner
Aug 15, 2011

by Shine

Hustlin Floh posted:

If you want to get technical, the baneblade tracks/hull are a little bigger. Are you asking because you're attempting a Higgins Boat conversion? If so you can just mash it together with a baneblade kit and I don't think anyone will mind.

Yeah, there are a couple of 1/35 boat kits that look promising.

Of course, at that scale they aren't that much cheaper than Forgeworld :ssh: Recasts since Forgeworld stopped selling them :ssh:

TheArmorOfContempt
Nov 29, 2012

Did I ever tell you my favorite color was blue?

Corrode posted:

This is great dude. Is the whole thing ready with the display board? I'd love to see it all together.


Will take some pics tonight since I am going to check my lists, and get the models packed tonight. It isn't super impressive since I won't have the Cathedral until this weekend.

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*
All the Y'havra talk yesterday and today I've pretty much finished it and my Riptide. Just one or two wee details and then decals and basing. Pretty happy with them both




EDIT- bugger forgot to attach the Y'Vahra's little wings before taking the pic

Serotonin fucked around with this message at 16:07 on Mar 19, 2018

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Serotonin posted:

All the Y'havra talk yesterday and today I've pretty much finished it and my Riptide. Just one or two wee details and then decals and basing. Pretty happy with them both




EDIT- bugger forgot to attach the Y'Vahra's little wings before taking the pic

I really like that blue. Nice work. I'll have to play your Tau sometime!

Serotonin
Jul 14, 2001

The history of all hitherto existing society is the history of *blank*
Id be up for that. Thinking of taking them to Tides, so need to get some practice in and some list building going.

Kilazar
Mar 23, 2010

TheChirurgeon posted:

When did you order yours? Because I had the same, but I got mine a few years ago before they changed manufacturers from the FAT mats

Oh that is a good point. I ordered mine about 7 months ago.

SteelMentor
Oct 15, 2012

TOXIC
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/19/preview-the-sautekh-dynasty-tomb-blades-and-the-catacomb-command-bargegw-homepage-post-2/

First Necron article up. Tomb Blades have a -1 modifier against being shot at, Sautekh WT is a CP recycler, Resurrection Protocol stratagem lets you potentially save a character from dying.

Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

Serotonin posted:

Id be up for that. Thinking of taking them to Tides, so need to get some practice in and some list building going.

Cool, let's do it (he says as he once again is sent off to the far end of the country, unable to play a game). Maybe next week?

SteelMentor posted:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2018/03/19/preview-the-sautekh-dynasty-tomb-blades-and-the-catacomb-command-bargegw-homepage-post-2/

First Necron article up. Tomb Blades have a -1 modifier against being shot at, Sautekh WT is a CP recycler, Resurrection Protocol stratagem lets you potentially save a character from dying.

Necrons straight-up getting Grand Strategist is surprising, that one hasn't shown up for a long time.

SRM
Jul 10, 2009

~*FeElIn' AweS0mE*~
I'm almost done with my Land Raider Excelsior and I'm not sure how I feel about it vs. using it as a regular Land Raider. For 81 points over a stock LR, I'm getting a 5+ invuln, a grav cannon instead of a heavy bolter, and the Captain's command aura to reroll 1s. If I take the Rhino Primaris and keep it within 24" it'll give the Excelsior +1 to hit which is neat, but I'm then sinking another 170 points here. The 5++ doesn't seem that useful since not that many weapons are AP -4 compared to AP-3, and while the aura is cool (and huge since it's within 6" of this tank instead of a regular size Marine captain) I feel like I usually keep my characters close to the hard hitters like this anyway. I'm just flip flopping on this since I don't know how best to run it.

Also a dude on the Oldhammer group has a metal Thunderhawk for sale and it's dope and heavy as hell:

evilmiera
Dec 14, 2009

Status: Ravenously Rambunctious

Bombogenesis posted:

So is the Tau codex stupid as gently caress? FW stuff being stupid and unfun to deal with is nothing new.

Not as far as I can tell from only looking at points and stuff like that. I haven't read the lore bits though if that's what people are saying is stupid.

I mean, I personally don't like the idea of a new codex for a race known for constantly innovating and creating new tech that has no new units and only some new weapons for its commanders after what, 1-200 years?

But as for point values, the only thing that is still really borked is Crisis suits, as mentioned before. There's some confusion as to what is going on with gun drones now being so much more expensive, but I presume it was a response to people spamming them. I haven't heard the consensus on Stealth suits yet, either. But Broadsides, Riptides and troops in general are looking a lot more viable now. I still wish Kroot had any love at all heaped on them but they are still somewhat boring.

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Living Image
Apr 24, 2010

HORSE'S ASS

SRM posted:

Also a dude on the Oldhammer group has a metal Thunderhawk for sale and it's dope and heavy as hell:


drat that thing must weigh a bit, that's a lot of metal.

evilmiera posted:

Not as far as I can tell from only looking at points and stuff like that. I haven't read the lore bits though if that's what people are saying is stupid.

I mean, I personally don't like the idea of a new codex for a race known for constantly innovating and creating new tech that has no new units and only some new weapons for its commanders after what, 1-200 years?

But as for point values, the only thing that is still really borked is Crisis suits, as mentioned before. There's some confusion as to what is going on with gun drones now being so much more expensive, but I presume it was a response to people spamming them. I haven't heard the consensus on Stealth suits yet, either. But Broadsides, Riptides and troops in general are looking a lot more viable now. I still wish Kroot had any love at all heaped on them but they are still somewhat boring.

I think the paradigm that we're going to have to accept is that the codexes coming out now just don't get new stuff, with minor exceptions. New things are going to be coming after, in smaller wave releases with campaign books and the like. I think Forgebane is a very small preview of this, since the Knight Armiger is a new unit for Ad Mech - it'll almost certainly also turn up in an Imperial Knights book later on, but for now it only exists in the "battle box" or whatever they're calling it.

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