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Rhyno posted:Winter Soldier, GotG, Thor3, BP. Yea, now that Black Panther is out we gotta have Top 4s instead of Top 3s Or say "Not counting Black Panther" when we ask people's favorite MCU flicks.
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Fartbox you are no longer allowed to talk about any Rhinos. Or Rhynos for that matter. Let's see how long until your head explodes.
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Mar 20, 2018 02:04
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He just really wants someone to buy him a war rhino avatar. War rhino was a good boy, and I'll just assume everyone loves him.
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Mar 20, 2018 02:15
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I'm reading through Panther's Rage in the old Jungle Action comics that Christopher Priest says did a lot of the heavy lifting for inspiring the Black Panther movie and the first issue certainly is proving him right. Jungle Action featuring the Black Panther #6  That's a vengeful Killmonger throwing a defeated Panther off a big ol' waterfall to his supposed death.
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Mar 20, 2018 02:41
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My personal MCU Top 10: 1. Black Panther 2. Winter Soldier 3. Civil War 4. Thor Ragnarok 5. Spider-man Homecoming 6. Guardians 2 7. Iron Man 8. First Avenger 9. Guardians 1 10. Ant Man
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Mar 20, 2018 02:49
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X-O posted:Fartbox you are no longer allowed to talk about any Rhinos. Or Rhynos for that matter. Let's see how long until your head explodes. LoL, now I'm going to quote all of his posts until he responds to me.
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Mar 20, 2018 02:49
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Rhyno posted:Winter Soldier, GotG, Thor3, BP. This is the objectively correct list.
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Mar 20, 2018 02:51
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Chill Penguin posted:This is the objectively correct list. It's very solid, I'd maybe just put GotG2 on it instead of 1 because the Family theme it has really fucks me up.
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Mar 20, 2018 02:58
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Samuringa posted:It's very solid, I'd maybe just put GotG2 on it instead of 1 because the Family theme it has really fucks me up. Sean Gunn at the end when he sees the ravager funeral is one of the best scenes I think I have seen in a while
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Mar 20, 2018 03:02
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GotG2 has too many flat spots for me. 1 was lightning in a a bottle. 2 is like, in a jar.
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We doing Top 3/5/10s? Cap 2 Guardians 1 Black Panther Ant-Man Thor 3 And no, I don’t have a logical reason for Ant-Man’s ranking. I like Paul Rudd, heist flicks, and the jokes really landed for me  Rhyno posted:GotG2 has too many flat spots for me. 1 was lightning in a a bottle. 2 is like, in a jar.
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Mar 20, 2018 03:22
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Thor 3, Black Panther, Civil War, Iron Man 3, Ant-Man.Rhyno posted:GotG2 has too many flat spots for me. 1 was lightning in a a bottle. 2 is like, in a jar. I felt the reverse. The Thanos stuff in 1 is dead air whereas 2 was more interested in its own characters and had a surprisingly heartfelt ending, especially given how much I dislike Star-Lord. It's still middle of the pack but I'd rewatch it again over the first one.
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Mar 20, 2018 03:58
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I'll never understand why that extremely brief Thanos cameo in GOTG bothers people so much.
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Mar 20, 2018 04:17
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JT Smiley posted:I'll never understand why that extremely brief Thanos cameo in GOTG bothers people so much. He's got more than a cameo and the main effect is to slow down the pace and to make Thanos look weak and incompetent. It's barely better than Iron Man 2's franchise stuff. James Gunn posted:There’s pressure with Thanos because you’re setting up this gigantic character that, in one way, isn’t really a part of your movie. His presence doesn’t really serve being in Guardians, and having Thanos be in that scene was more helpful to the Marvel universe than it was to Guardians of the Galaxy. I always wanted to have Thanos in there, but from a structural standpoint, you don’t need him. So that’s part of it, and then part of it is the fact that you’re setting up this incredibly powerful character, but you don’t want to belittle the actual antagonist of the film, which is Ronan. You don’t want him to seem like a big wussy. So how do you make that work? Between Avengers and Guardians of the Galaxy Thanos is betrayed or let down by basically every major underling, has gone backwards in his search for Infinity Stones, and has sat on his arse and done nothing to rectify it except make the same mistakes again.
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I know that connections between movies are minimal and inconsequential, but do you think NOT seeing Black Panther before Infinity War would have any impact on enjoying that movie? At this rate, it'll be out of theatres before I get a chance to see the drat thing. 
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Jamesman posted:I know that connections between movies are minimal and inconsequential, but do you think NOT seeing Black Panther before Infinity War would have any impact on enjoying that movie? At this rate, it'll be out of theatres before I get a chance to see the drat thing. Black Panther is making Frozen numbers I think you have at least a few months.
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Jamesman posted:I know that connections between movies are minimal and inconsequential, but do you think NOT seeing Black Panther before Infinity War would have any impact on enjoying that movie? At this rate, it'll be out of theatres before I get a chance to see the drat thing. Well, my main fear is that Wakanda will be flattened in Infinity War, which would make certain developments in Black Panther fall a bit flat after the fact.
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Unlucky7 posted:Well, my main fear is that Wakanda will be flattened in Infinity War, which would make certain developments in Black Panther fall a bit flat after the fact. I feel like Feige is probably savvy enough not to build Black Panther up as much as they did (and while you can never, ever truly predict these things with 100% certainty, I'm fairly certain that he must have been pretty confident in how well it would do once it was finally released) only to then piss it all away for cheap shock value two months later. Watch me be proven horribly wrong, and I'm sure Wakanda may take some licks the same way New York did, but they'd be insanely, uncharacteristically dumb to raze it all to the ground unless Infinity War Part 2 ends with some sort of magic retcon that undoes it all or something.
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Mar 20, 2018 05:15
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I have such a hard time with lists because I feel like I can go forever trying to put one over the other. I can do a top 5, just not in any kind of reasonable order. Winter Soldier gets in for the elevator scene. Homecoming for "If you're gonna point that gun at someone, point it at me" and "Yo Spidey, do a flip". I've seen Black Panther 4 times, so that's going to have to go in there. Those are certainly the top 3. Then I feel like I'll also put Guardians 2 over the first one and Civil War can round out the list. Personally I find the first Iron Man to be a little overrated and I was super tempted to just put all 3 Cap movies in the top 5.
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Mar 20, 2018 05:34
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mycot posted:Black Panther is making Frozen numbers I think you have at least a few months. I genuinely don't know. Movie's been out for a while and there's really only one option for a theatre near me. Worried it'll get dropped if I can't see it by next week. Also would be expecting Black Panther to get pushed out in favor of promoting Avengers.
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Mar 20, 2018 05:43
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Kai Tave posted:I feel like Feige is probably savvy enough not to build Black Panther up as much as they did (and while you can never, ever truly predict these things with 100% certainty, I'm fairly certain that he must have been pretty confident in how well it would do once it was finally released) only to then piss it all away for cheap shock value two months later. Watch me be proven horribly wrong, and I'm sure Wakanda may take some licks the same way New York did, but they'd be insanely, uncharacteristically dumb to raze it all to the ground unless Infinity War Part 2 ends with some sort of magic retcon that undoes it all or something. Honestly, I agree with you, but I don't dare underestimate the ability of Hollywood to Miss The loving Point. And double for Marvel. As far as I am concerned, the chances of it happening are non-zero. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 05:50 on Mar 20, 2018 |
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Mar 20, 2018 05:48
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Unlucky7 posted:Honestly, I agree with you, but I don't dare underestimate the ability of Hollywood to Miss The loving Point. And double for Marvel. The chances are non-zero, but Marvel the movie studio is largely a different entity than Marvel the comics publisher. The MCUs missteps have been things like "Joss Whedon ignoring Winter Soldier so he could put Nick Fury in Age of Ultron," nothing really to the same degree as "yeah, that critically and commercially wildly successful movie we just made? Let's burn it all for cheap heat." Plus holy hell, they absolutely have to be planning another Black Panther solo movie now if they weren't already.
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Mar 20, 2018 06:22
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For me, the “Father and Son” scene puts Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2 over the top for best comic book movie over part 1. Watching Rocket realize that, yeah, he’s a terrible person, but he’s not worthless will never not wreck me.
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Mar 20, 2018 12:42
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It’s a good reflection on Marvel that three of their best films have come out in less than a year
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Mar 20, 2018 12:55
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FlamingLiberal posted:It’s a good reflection on Marvel that three of their best films have come out in less than a year Yeah, it would have been so easy for them to keep rehashing the same stuff, but instead they went and got three quality directors who weren’t giant names or known for big budget action movies (I’m including Gunn in that since he wasn’t known for that before 1) and let them go nuts. I’ve always liked the marvel movies but the phase three stuff has been fantastic. E:add up the budget for all the movies all three directors did before doing Marvel, and you’re still at half the budget of Thor 3. Ugly In The Morning fucked around with this message at 13:17 on Mar 20, 2018 |
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Mar 20, 2018 13:13
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https://twitter.com/GualabiBlog/status/976084366676897793 Womp womp
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Mar 20, 2018 14:33
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It will make most of its money in Batman action figure variants.
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Ugly In The Morning posted:Yeah, it would have been so easy for them to keep rehashing the same stuff, but instead they went and got three quality directors who weren’t giant names or known for big budget action movies (I’m including Gunn in that since he wasn’t known for that before 1) and let them go nuts. I’ve always liked the marvel movies but the phase three stuff has been fantastic.
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Rhyno posted:GotG2 has too many flat spots for me. 1 was lightning in a a bottle. 2 is like, in a jar. It has its share of problems (yet another overlong third-act CG orgy involving evil universe-destroying blue energy, overuse of the MCU "dramatic moment undercut with a gag" trope), but it earns and executes most of its emotional beats better than the majority of the franchise does, the first film included.
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I agree that the 3rd act is overlong, but not too terribly. I think it could have been trimmed a bit.
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The biggest problem with GotG2 is that they used the wrong part of The Chain for the climactic fight with Ego.
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It's hard to rank MCU films, but I think Black Panther is easily top 3. While I have a few quibbles with the narrative and pacing, the themes are so important and well implemented that they easily overshadow any weaknesses. Winter Soldier is also up there for obvious reasons. Beyond that, I think it comes down to taste. Both GotGs are wonderful, with complementary strengths and weaknesses. Civil War, while not as thematically strong, was really satisfying from a comic nerd pov. Iron Man 3 really struck with me at the time, but I think that's because I appreciated the themes and the Mandarin troll. Homecoming finally got Spider-Man right, and meshed super heroics with high-school comedy well. While I don't rank Ragnarok as high as others, it was easily better than the previous films and a lot of fun. While I'm sure this will change after some time and thought I'd rank them currently as follows: Winter Soldier Black Panther Guardians of the Galaxy Civil War GotG Vol 2 Iron Man 3 Homecoming Ragnarok Avengers Ant-Man Iron Man First Avenger Dr. Strange Thor Age of Ultron Incredible Hulk The Dark World Iron Man 2
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Mar 20, 2018 16:15
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I literally cannot remember a thing about Thor 2, and I know I've seen it.
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Endless Mike posted:I literally cannot remember a thing about Thor 2, and I know I've seen it. The dark elves and Asgard and their respective ships and technology were all fuckin’ awesome. Loki interacting with anyone, really. The final battle with portal fuckery. Frigga’s funeral ship. That’s just off the top of my head, haven’t seen it for a while. Oh, and proto-Korg. EDIT: Also, Loki impersonating Cap while Alan Silvestri’s march plays in the background. Phylodox fucked around with this message at 16:24 on Mar 20, 2018 |
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I didn't hate Thor 2, but other than Loki and the final fight, it's just not very memorable. It does what it sets out to do competently, but all it's doing is a standard genre story with really flat villains.
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Mar 20, 2018 16:29
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The joke in Thor 2 when they throw their keys into the rift is pretty good.
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Mar 20, 2018 17:15
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Hemsworth looks so much better with the cropped hair.
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The ships were also flying swords, which was awesome. Wife and I watched Dark World last night as we're going through all the movies (and apparently Agents of Shield as well). That hammer on the coat rack was apparently ad-libbed by Hemsworth.
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