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The fujoshi doujins were lit af too.  I didn't know a ton of japanese greco fans as it was airing but all of them were women, is my anecdote.
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Bellri was a popular character and theres a ton of him and Mask stuff but also Manny/Mask cause I guess that romance struck a chord somewhere. One artist was really into the various smaller characters from the Capital army and just did big comics about them hanging out, that was neat.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:I truly love how It turns out his big plan was just to get in the Bael Gundam and go "I HAVE THE GUNDAM, OBEY ME!", only for the Seven Stars to just largely go "uh... No?...." because he was the only one that still thought it was important, like a small child would.  McGillis owned.
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Thanks for sharing, Sharkopath. Its just really interesting to me because when I was first watching through Gundam stuff, the accepted wisdom I saw online was the female audiences were only mainly present for SEED, SEED Destiny, and to a lesser extent 00 and since then seeing that challenged by what I've read about the audiences for 0079 and G-Reco has been fascinating. Raxivace fucked around with this message at 11:26 on Mar 20, 2018 |
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The people I was talking to knew about gundam but weren't gundam fans before Greco, a bunch moved on to ibo afterwards but not all did, some just really liked the Greco characters and some were put off by the more dour tone of Ibo. I haven't talked to them in a while tho since I stopped p4acricing Japanese I don't know if they still consider thems3lves gundam fans or they filter3d back to just general anime.
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Sharkopath posted:The people I was talking to knew about gundam but weren't gundam fans before Greco, a bunch moved on to ibo afterwards but not all did, some just really liked the Greco characters and some were put off by the more dour tone of Ibo. I haven't talked to them in a while tho since I stopped p4acricing Japanese I don't know if they still consider thems3lves gundam fans or they filter3d back to just general anime. Uh, Shark, did you start smelling burnt toast while writing that last sentence by any chance? 
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Uh, Shark, did you start smelling burnt toast while writing that last sentence by any chance? Phone.
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This is not the best place to ask this, but it's somewhat relevant and I'm not sure which forum/thread would be better to ask for a bit of video editing advice so here goes: a week or two back someone on /m/ passingly requested a cut of Char's Counterattack with Hathaway and Quess's scenes cut from it. Now, I don't think that doing so would improve the film, but the question stuck in my head and I do think making such an edit would help illustrate why they're a good addition to the film. I imagine cutting them (along with Gyunei) would make the film much more cold and clinical right until the Axis Shock event in the finale and rob it of much of it's humanity. Regardless, I'm interested in making such an edit. I have no experience with video editing however so I'm kind of fumbling around. Originally I was just using webm for retards to cut it up, and then planning on setting it to a high quality and spitting out some webm for Youtube, but it's kind of annoying to use since I have to do all the editing in one go and can't shut my laptop down and work on it over a few days so I gave up on that. Plus, it'd probably take days to produce the final webm when all the editing is done, which isn't ideal either. After a bit of poking around I downloaded a program called Lightworks to edit the film in a more direct manner but then realize it can't import .mkv's and every decent version of the film I can find is an .mkv so I'm kind of stuck once again. Thinking about it, .mkv's are called a container and I've seen references to "muxing" the files, which I'm presuming has to do with the finished file being a mix of a sub file and a video file so no video editor is likely to work on an .mkv file directly since it'd imply working on a written sub file as well. Which means I'd have to edit a sub file for timing and poo poo too. Which I'm happy to enough to try doing but, is there a simple gui interface program for separating an .mkv file in to something like an .mp4 file so I can make a shot at this or am I going to have to have to make a push at command line programs like ffmpeg (at least I think it's command line based on my brief exposure to it) to get any kind of start on this as an idea?
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Bit late on this one but I think people calling Mcgillis plan dumb is disingenuous and ignores what happened in the show. The show clearly indicates in Gjallajhorn, operating bale makes you the leader of Gjallajhorn, no if, ands or buts. While yeah, Rustal (rightfully) said "gently caress that poo poo, we're not going to use laws created 300 years ago in a different time and place to give power to this guy" having Bael was a big enough deal that it led to half of Gjallhorn's seven star families becoming neutral. If it wasn't for Bael, that would no problem curb stomping this little upstart.
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You want handbrake I think? I had the same problem importing mkvs into Lightworks before and Handbrake makes it pretty easy to change the container over to a mp4
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Monaghan posted:Bit late on this one but I think people calling Mcgillis plan dumb is disingenuous and ignores what happened in the show. The show clearly indicates in Gjallajhorn, operating bale makes you the leader of Gjallajhorn, no if, ands or buts. While yeah, Rustal (rightfully) said "gently caress that poo poo, we're not going to use laws created 300 years ago in a different time and place to give power to this guy" having Bael was a big enough deal that it led to half of Gjallhorn's seven star families becoming neutral. If it wasn't for Bael, that would no problem curb stomping this little upstart. No, that's what McGillis thought after poring through all the old books. The whole point is he's essentially working off a fable and reality is far less black-and-white. The reason a few of Seven Star families go neutral (and, you know, not in favour of obeying him) is because the odds of McGillis holding power is pretty loving low and they just want to see how the fallout settles on the off chance he doesn't die horribly within a week or two.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:No, that's what McGillis thought after poring through all the old books. The whole point is he's essentially working off a fable and reality is far less black-and-white. The reason a few of Seven Star families go neutral (and, you know, not in favour of obeying him) is because the odds of McGillis holding power is pretty loving low and they just want to see how the fallout settles on the off chance he doesn't die horribly within a week or two. Except those old fables are still held to be of great importance to Gjalljhorn. It's why People are genuinely concerned that McGillis may become more powerful in the organisation by taking out the mobile armor they found on mars. So those old traditions and laws still hold weight. I"ll have to rewatch the scene in which Gjalljhorn other families turn Mcgillis down. If I recall, they specifically say they don't want to work against the guy who has Bael, but they won't actively support him either. I'm not contending that McGillis is holding a romanticised view of the past. He didn't expect that they wouldn't follow the old laws, but people really seem to misinterpret the plan.
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Monaghan posted:Except those old fables are still held to be of great importance to Gjalljhorn. It's why People are genuinely concerned that McGillis may become more powerful in the organisation by taking out the mobile armor they found on mars. So those old traditions and laws still hold weight. I"ll have to rewatch the scene in which Gjalljhorn other families turn Mcgillis down. If I recall, they specifically say they don't want to work against the guy who has Bael, but they won't actively support him either. The Mobile Armor is an entirely different issue. It's a matter of pride and honor that each family has its standings based on Mobile Armor kills. Bagging the MA on Mars is something they took seriously because it really would change the balance for the first time in centuries. Bael's significance, on the other hand, has diminished because nobody could pilot the drat thing. By the time of IBO it's just another antique.
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Hey ya'll, here to ask a question that I'm sure has been asked before. I plan on introducing my girlfriend to a little bit of Gundam and I was thinking about starting out (and probably ending it at) 0080. Do you think this would be a logical starting point or there something else I should go with first? Much appreciated in advance.
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Its got to be Wing, baby!
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OneMoreTime posted:Hey ya'll, here to ask a question that I'm sure has been asked before. I plan on introducing my girlfriend to a little bit of Gundam and I was thinking about starting out (and probably ending it at) 0080. Do you think this would be a logical starting point or there something else I should go with first? Much appreciated in advance. 0080 is a fine intro. 08th MS Team and Iron-Blooded Orphans are also good starters. Build Fighters is fun and charming, but you’ll miss a fair few in-jokes.
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Darth Walrus posted:0080 is a fine intro. 08th MS Team and Iron-Blooded Orphans are also good starters. Build Fighters is fun and charming, but you’ll miss a fair few in-jokes. I think Build Fighters "works" at its best once you've seen at least one or two other series, even if only a few episodes. It's perfectly watchable without doing so, but I think the context of what everyone's getting worked up over kinda helps colour just how silly it all is. Gundam 00's first season is another good starting point, incidentally.
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Well, while I really enjoyed Ready Player One it's worth the ticket price just to watch an RX-78 fight Mecha Godzilla
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Improbable Lobster posted:Don;t give Ernest Cline money Seriously, if you are thinking about seeing that movie, just read Nerd Porn Auteur and realize this is the man you are supporting.
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Luminaflare posted:Well, while I really enjoyed Ready Player One it's worth the ticket price just to watch an RX-78 fight Mecha Godzilla As someone who loves both of those things, that only makes me hate it more.
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That sounds like a great isolated clip to watch on youtube in six months while not giving Ernest Cline money.
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Babysitter Super Sleuth posted:Really, the biggest issue I have with most criticisms of Tominos writing is that the critics often vastly underestimate the capacity for insane stupidity and cognitive dissonance your average person has at the best of times, much less in the wake of literally the most destructive war in known history Yeah he's heavy-handed with his poo poo but at the same time it's not at all unrealistic. We're doing the same thing right now as far as insane tribalism and cognitive dissonance and we don't even have cool loving space colonies and mining stations on asteroids god drat it.
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It's just how you phrase it really. If you got bonus points for not using elves no one would have a problem with it. edit: wrong thread, ugh Spelling Mitsake fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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bacon flaps posted:Yeah he's heavy-handed with his poo poo but at the same time it's not at all unrealistic. We're doing the same thing right now as far as insane tribalism and cognitive dissonance and we don't even have cool loving space colonies and mining stations on asteroids god drat it. Now? We've been doing it forever. In every time, in every place, the deeds of men remain the same Edit: And on the viewership thing, I find it somewhat interesting that IBO had the opposite demography. Notable majority male viewers, from the polling data I've seen. Kinda makes sense with the show's focus, but (assuming Tomino's got a good grasp of viewership, which I haven't seen reason to doubt) it's interesting how Gundam changes up its main demographic by series. The default assumption is there's a core of "Gundam fans" and some series happen to pick up a small peripheral demographic, but looking at the last handful of main entries, it feels more like each show picks up its own core, and repeat fans are more a matter of overlap than a central target. Neat. chiasaur11 fucked around with this message at 23:17 on Mar 20, 2018 |
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Spelling Mitsake posted:It's just how you phrase it really. If you got bonus points for not using elves no one would have a problem with it. It's the wrong thread and all, but just letting you know I find it funny and appreciate it because I read both. 
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chiasaur11 posted:Now? Well the 'now' I meant as in 'the present' AKA 'having the supposed benefit of history to learn from' and yet nothing's changed. Not literally that bad things started in the 2010s. I'm pretty sure we're agreeing with each other. Or did you just want to get that LoGH reference in?
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chiasaur11 posted:It's even better, I think, since It reminds me a bit of sovcit magical thinking, or: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfSkBONbDwA
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Snooze Cruise posted:Seriously, if you are thinking about seeing that movie, just read Nerd Porn Auteur and realize this is the man you are supporting. ...WELP Guess I'm glad I got the tickets for free.
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Snooze Cruise posted:You want handbrake I think? I had the same problem importing mkvs into Lightworks before and Handbrake makes it pretty easy to change the container over to a mp4 Hardcode the subs in when you make the mp4 so you don't have to worry about timing the sub file. Unless you want to go over the top and have switchable subs but I advise against doing sub retiming.
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Luminaflare posted:...WELP the only reason i plan to watch it is because i work at a movie theater and get in free
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Hellioning posted:Gato is questionable; Schwarz is fairly obviously A CHAR. lol that gato's brilliant strategy was to nuke all the spacenoid sympathizers good work team
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Yinlock posted:lol that gato's brilliant strategy was to nuke all the spacenoid sympathizers Gato's Gihren levels of lovely person without any of the, you know, intelligence. And yet, the show tries to present him as a tragic and sympathetic figure, while Cima is murdered by Kou because Kou is garbage.
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Cima was a space pirate who gave no fucks and just wanted to screw over everyone who had wronged her. Too bad she killed Burning, they would have been great together. Captain Synapse got the raw end of the deal though. Executed for mutiny and only explained to the audience through a text screen. Off topic I just realized Crimson Typhoon might be an unintentional Char reference in Pacific Rim. The epithet similarities and it needs three pilots to handle (three times the speed!). Probably just my lizard brain pattern recognition kicking in but fun to think about. Crimson Typhoon even has a monoeye instead of a traditional helmet head. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 07:28 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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chiasaur11 posted:Gato's Gihren levels of lovely person without any of the, you know, intelligence. Cima is killed by Kou because he's been awake for like over 24 hours, just had to watch someone get murdered, and also he's fought her a tonne of times and she's responsible for his mentor's death. I mean... it's still lovely that she died to her ally (Who she was firing on, even though it's clear it was in self-defense) Honestly I really hate the entire back half of 0083 after the director swap. Also it's like... loving awful at portraying just how much this entire thing is all manipulation by the Titans, and God drat would that have been so perfect to bury Gato under "You know those people you all killed? Yeah, that was all of our political enemies. In fact, everything you've done, is a perfect response to allow us to seize even more power." The beauty of the Titan's plan was that once Gato had the Nuke, it didn't matter if he got stopped. I really wanted that driven into the dumb fucks head, I wished that instead of Cima dying, he got to die realizing not only was everything he did for nothing, but it did the OPPOSITE of nothing, It actively helped his enemies. Arcsquad12 posted:Cima was a space pirate who gave no fucks and just wanted to screw over everyone who had wronged her. Too bad she killed Burning, they would have been great together. I mean probably very intentional, Del Toro mentioned that the design of Cherno Alpha was made to resemble a Zaku. Also I'm fairly certain Synapse was executed for deleting the information regarding the GP-Series. Or at least I remember reading as such, that the reason Kou got out of Jail was because Synapse basically made it so there wasn't any 'evidence' of poo poo going down. Onmi fucked around with this message at 07:31 on Mar 21, 2018 |
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I don't even think the rise of the titans was even the original end goal of the series. That felt like a back end last minute change after they realized they couldn't end the show with Gato nuking the fleet. So jamitov and bask show up out of nowhere to say "psych! It was me all along, Austin!" and the whole thing turns into a clusterfuck. I mean, delaz wants to throw a colony at the Midwest. The federation wants to blow up the colony with a mirror laser. The mirror laser plan fails and the titan founders make their move in allowing the drop to happen basically out of nowhere. Bask looks legitimately shocked when the mirror laser fails due to Gato dicking around in the nue ziel, so I bet the "blame it on the spacenoids and seize power" angle was thought up on the spot. While all this is happening the Albion crew stages a mutiny against Anaheim and steals a mobile armor and the Cima's pirates turn on delaz and aid the federation, only for Kou to kill them all in a moronic rage while still failing to stop Gato. All the while Axis Zeon forces sit on the sidelines for a pointless Haman cameo and wait to see what will happen, the leave delaz forces to die by running a federation blockade to reach them. Confusing clusterfuck is the easiest way to describe what the gently caress happened after the nuke episode.
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Arcsquad12 posted:I don't even think the rise of the titans was even the original end goal of the series. That felt like a back end last minute change after they realized they couldn't end the show with Gato nuking the fleet. So jamitov and bask show up out of nowhere to say "psych! It was me all along, Austin!" and the whole thing turns into a clusterfuck. Not really, the nuke is a good enough reason to form the Titans "Look at what happened because we didn't have a group in place to put a stop to these things pre-emptively." And Bask being shocked when it fails seems on point, it would only have HELPED the Titans to succeed in stopping the colony, because then they'd also be able to point to all themselves as heroes who saved the earth, but failing didn't hurt them either. It was literally no-lose for the proto-titans.
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