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MrJacobs posted:I'm sure once Disney hates making money this will happen. Killing a character for the sole purpose to bring them back when the timing is right and most profitable is comic books 101. Justice League dropped the ball by bringing Superman back right away. Because of how the phases are structured, it’s much more likely Marvel will play the long game the right way.
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Barry Convex posted:In interviews, the Russos have strongly implied that the Battle of New York scenes from A4 set pics are actually involving Stark's holographic BARF technology from Civil War, not time travel or flashbacks per se. But I guess we'll see. There's no way that isn't just a cover.
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Mar 22, 2018 19:03
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Fart City posted:Killing a character for the sole purpose to bring them back when the timing is right and most profitable is comic books 101. Justice League dropped the ball by bringing Superman back right away. Because of how the phases are structured, it’s much more likely Marvel will play the long game the right way. I also think, it would have been a lot better to end Batman v Superman with stopping Luthor and having Doomsday be near the start of Justice League.
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Mar 22, 2018 19:03
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Spacebump posted:I agree. i think it would have been a lot better to take the money spent on BvS and spend it on like, anything else remake Pluto Nash i guess why not
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Mar 22, 2018 19:05
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thrawn527 posted:What's the other option? Recast? Or have old man Iron Man and old man Captain America kicking around? Recast the role so kids can still see Iron Man and Captain America on the big screen. Could it suck? yes. but its still the right move for marketing overall. I also grantee you that Wolverine will be recast soon as long as the X-Men films keep making money.
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Mar 22, 2018 19:08
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Fart City posted:Killing a character for the sole purpose to bring them back when the timing is right and most profitable is comic books 101. Justice League dropped the ball by bringing Superman back right away. Because of how the phases are structured, it’s much more likely Marvel will play the long game the right way. Originally he was supposed to come back in the second film.
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Mar 22, 2018 19:09
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MrJacobs posted:Recast the role so kids can still see Iron Man and Captain America on the big screen. Could it suck? yes. but its still the right move for marketing overall. Agreed. Superheroes should be like Bond, just replace the actor every so often. This saves us from having to watch more origin movies.
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Mar 22, 2018 19:13
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Originally he was supposed to come back in the second film. When the dust settles, it feels like there’s going to be a lot of fascinating behind-the-scenes reveals of the development/production/release of Justice League. The movie seemed to be radically changing its shape on a fairly consistent basis, even before Snyder left. I’ll be very interested to see it get something akin to the Superman Lives treatment, because as far as imploding blockbusters go, it’s got a lot ground to cover.
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Mar 22, 2018 19:18
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Avengers 4 is likely going to make me cry because it's going to be filled with flashbacks and nostalgia from 10+ years of the MCU.
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Macdeo Lurjtux posted:Different, Bishop is from a future where mutants are held in concentration camps ala Days of Future Past. Isn't he actually from the DOFP future? Or is that just something that got invented for the 90s cartoon and then reused for the DOFP movie? (I know he's not in the original DOFP comic, but they revisit that future other times, right?)
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Mar 22, 2018 19:34
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Mordiceius posted:Avengers 4 is likely going to make me cry because it's going to be filled with flashbacks and nostalgia from 10+ years of the MCU. Haha people are going to be nostalgic for the MCU, aren't they? I honestly never thought about that. "I remember when Chris Evans was Cap and not <some other guy>...those were the days..." --a guy in 2027
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Mar 22, 2018 19:50
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Mordiceius posted:Avengers 4 is likely going to make me cry because it's going to be filled with flashbacks and nostalgia from 10+ years of the MCU. Same but it's going to be tears of pain that in going to see avengers 4
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BENGHAZI 2 posted:Same but it's going to be tears of pain that in going to see avengers 4
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Crows Turn Off posted:You don't have to see the movie. I believe in hating things properly
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Mar 22, 2018 20:02
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Why even watch a Marvel movie? They're so bland.
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corn in the bible posted:Why even watch a Marvel movie? They're so bland. They're enjoyable, usually.
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Chairman Capone posted:Isn't he actually from the DOFP future? Or is that just something that got invented for the 90s cartoon and then reused for the DOFP movie? (I know he's not in the original DOFP comic, but they revisit that future other times, right?) Combined for the cartoon. The DoFP timeline potential is resolved by the end of the story but similar timelines were invented whenever the writers wanted to dip into that well again. DoFP timeline was created by Mystique when she assassinated Sen. Kelly. Bishop's future was created by the event in my spoiler.
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Mar 22, 2018 20:29
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Haha people are going to be nostalgic for the MCU, aren't they? I honestly never thought about that. The MCU is 10 years old so there's already adults walking around today who grew up with it since they were 8 and they probably don't have a lot of memories of a time before it existed.
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Captain America is a title, no reason Steve Rogers can't "die" now, bring in a new Captain America and then you can still have a surprise return for Rogers a few years down the line if you really want to.
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The MCU is 10 years old so there's already adults walking around today who grew up with it since they were 8 and they probably don't have a lot of memories of a time before it existed. Iron Man 1 came out when I was 21. The MCU has been around for 1/3 of my life. The Harry Potter films only spanned 8 years (originally) and people are still nostalgic over those.
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Mar 22, 2018 21:17
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:The MCU is 10 years old so there's already adults walking around today who grew up with it since they were 8 and they probably don't have a lot of memories of a time before it existed. I had a hell of a moment when I realized that there is a large group of people out there now who look at Batman ‘89 with the same kind of distance I look at Batman ‘66.
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Mordiceius posted:Iron Man 1 came out when I was 21. The MCU has been around for 1/3 of my life. Ten years. Eight films, ten years.
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Edward Mass posted:Ten years. Eight films, ten years. Ah, I figured Harry Potter was a film a year. My bad, didn't check that. Well, at Avengers 4, it will be 22 films over 11 years. If nothing else, that gives people more to be nostalgic about. I would venture to guess there is a somewhat decent percentage of people out there that don't watch every film in the MCU. Maybe some people are only interested in Iron Man. Others only interested in Cap. Others only interested in Guardians of the Galaxy. If Avengers 3/4 are good enough (at least on par with Avengers 1), it is bringing all of those fans together for collective nostalgia. And as much as this thread wants to discount the MCU as garbage not worth discussing, it is an important piece of millions of peoples lives.
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Mordiceius posted:The Harry Potter films only spanned 8 years (originally) and people are still nostalgic over those. Is that true? Usually when I here people talking about Harry Potter it's in relation to the books. I'm not trying to say that you're wrong, but it's not something that I've observed at all. Maybe that just says something about the crowds I'm with, though.
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Schwarzwald posted:Is that true? Usually when I here people talking about Harry Potter it's in relation to the books. Fantastic Beasts pulled in almost a billion dollars.
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HUNDU THE BEAST GOD posted:Originally he was supposed to come back in the second film. I assume by "originally," you just mean in the very earliest plot outlines and such? Because the plot can't have changed that drastically in rewrites and reshoots.
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Barry Convex posted:I assume by "originally," you just mean in the very earliest plot outlines and such? Because the plot can't have changed that drastically in rewrites and reshoots. That was the plan when they were making Batman v Superman. Snyder's planning got thrown out the window when BvS didn't make a full billion.
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Mordiceius posted:Fantastic Beasts pulled in almost a billion dollars. Which is just about as much as the first Harry Potter film and about as much as the two Deathly Hallows films. I'm not arguing that Harry Potter isn't popular, or that the films didn't make money, but I've never heard people talk about thm in the manner people talks about, (for example) the LOTRs movies, the Marvel movies, or the Harry Potter books. I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that people would be nostalgic for the films, but it still seems weird to me.
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RBA Starblade posted:They're enjoyable, usually. So is water. Yet also non distinctive. It's going to be interesting to see what the Deadpool team can do with a budget.
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Fart City posted:I had a hell of a moment when I realized that there is a large group of people out there now who look at Batman ‘89 with the same kind of distance I look at Batman ‘66. Batman 89' came out two years before i was born,i'm 27. Batman forever was my first time seeing batman at the cinema and i was 4,i still remember it 
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Mordiceius posted:And as much as this thread wants to discount the MCU as garbage not worth discussing, it is an important piece of millions of peoples lives.
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Mordiceius posted:And as much as this thread wants to discount the MCU as garbage not worth discussing, it is an important piece of millions of peoples lives. Nobody discounts it, they're often discussed, dissected, and the many horrible messages contained within are the topic of spirited conversation.
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And the award for first on-screen openly gay superhero in the modern superhero movie craze goes to... Negasonic Teenage Warhead in Deadpool 2? https://twitter.com/sofboutellas/status/976835774552395777
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Cythereal posted:And the award for first on-screen openly gay superhero in the modern superhero movie craze goes to... Negasonic Teenage Warhead in Deadpool 2? pretty much confirms the recent plot leaks, yup Sir Kodiak posted:That was the plan when they were making Batman v Superman. Snyder's planning got thrown out the window when BvS didn't make a full billion. Yeah, not buying this, at least the latter half. Justice League started filming just two and a half weeks or so after BvS opened. It's no secret that the film had significant last-minute, on-set rewrites in response to BvS' reception, but I don't see how there would have been enough time to incorporate such a massive change to the overall plot. That may well have been the plan in 2013 or 2014 or whenever, but it would probably have had to change long before cameras started rolling. Barry Convex fucked around with this message at 22:50 on Mar 22, 2018 |
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Barry Convex posted:pretty much confirms the recent plot leaks, yup they made massive changes to the plot in the 6 months prior to the movie coming out what makes you think it would be impossible to do that in the year before that?
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They started retooling Justice League when the suits saw the initial cut of Batman v Superman, completely lost confidence in it, and forced 30 minutes worth of cuts so that they could rake in those lucrative first weekend dollars. It was well-known that the studio did not have confidence in the film prior to release. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XAmY5h8Ep58 Please note the above video was posted over a month before Batman v Superman premiered, and the journo did correctly predict that Snyder would be fired (he just got the timing wrong)
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Could probably also be argued that had they not trimmed down the 30 minutes the movie would have been better critically received
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As much as I'm down on the MCU, the patience it took to pull that off really is impressive. It seems all but inevitable now, but in 2011, both Thor and CA had very modest returns, as had their Hulk movie. But Disney stuck to their guns, and made the Avengers a thing people cared about, which is amazing, given that it's a team up of characters that audiences were mostly lukewarm on individually. If Warner Bros had had even a fraction of that patience, they'd have something amazing. But they've bailed on pretty much every opportunity.
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Marvel pretty much perfected the mass audience appeal of their products. Keep it light, have some nice character interactions, take storylines from comics and just adjust them a tiny bit for the silver screen, and scrub any and all controversial topics like alcoholism and you're good to go. Just like the comic books, it's fluffy. Like soap opera for men
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Schwarzwald posted:Which is just about as much as the first Harry Potter film and about as much as the two Deathly Hallows films. The studios tour in England with all the movie sets and props is still very popular, and the fandom still go crazy for the actors of the original movies. Almost all imagery related to Harry Potter now comes from the movies and not the books.
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