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Mar 24, 2018 20:54
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FCKGW posted:wth is a yimby? It stands for Yes In By Back Yard, and is a word for someone who is pro-local development. This acronym is in contrast to a NIMBY (Not In My Back Yard) which is someone who thinks "sure, we should build more housing / a powerplant / etc, just not where I live" See also DINK, HENRY, Yuppie
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Mar 24, 2018 21:02
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If YIMBY just means “pro-development” then there are certainly a bunch of libertarian YIMBYs.
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Mar 24, 2018 21:09
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Trabisnikof posted:If YIMBY just means “pro-development” then there are certainly a bunch of libertarian YIMBYs. Well, it generally means that but it’s also the name for an organized pro-housing voting constituency (in their own words) that puts out voter guides and has officials and stuff. https://yimbyaction.org So there can be some confusion when people use the word, because there can be libertarian YIMBYs, but the YIMBY org generally isn’t libertarian.
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Mar 24, 2018 21:15
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If NIBMY is bad then shouldn’t YIMBY be good then? Just confused why it’s being used in the negative here.
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Mar 24, 2018 21:19
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FCKGW posted:If NIBMY is bad then shouldn’t YIMBY be good then? Because there is disagreement about a bill the organization supports. Some argue it would be good for housing because it reduces regulations others are arguing it will hurt housing by allowing rich communities to opt-out easily while only increasing development of luxury housing.
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Mar 24, 2018 21:25
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Trabisnikof posted:If YIMBY just means “pro-development” then there are certainly a bunch of libertarian YIMBYs. FCKGW posted:If NIBMY is bad then shouldn’t YIMBY be good then? But there are also people on the far left who are renters and are totally okay with transit, bikes and poors, and who oppose development because it's done by private developers for-profit, and often times where they build they must first tear down existing housing, which means existing residents get kicked out. They also believe replacing existing structures with new, "luxury"* housing causes gentrification/prices to go up. This type of person would be fine with dense, urbanist development if it was done by the government or non-profits. * There is some debate over what "luxury apartments/condos" actually means, because in practice many developers/landlords seem to slap the word "luxury" on anything new just as a marketing tactic.
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Mar 25, 2018 01:58
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Cicero posted:* There is some debate over what "luxury apartments/condos" actually means, because in practice many developers/landlords seem to slap the word "luxury" on anything new just as a marketing tactic. If your 600 unit apartment Megacity has Concierge Services, a Gym/Pilates Studio, Heated Pool, Dog Park, Private Screening Area, Rooftop Open Air Wine Lounge etc, it's a luxe development. Basically it's a complex that sounds like a dorm setup so the residents don't actually have to interact with the surrounding community outside of the rarified air of their Preferred Areas. It's different from a returned apartment block with a crappy pool and a steel gate to keep the weirdos out. Luxe Devs sell the place as part of a lifestyle choice.
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Mar 25, 2018 02:07
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Ferry service in the SF Bay to this day is still limited by the environmental damaged caused by hydraulic mining in the 1860s. They filled in the bay with debris. That’s basically the reason why we can’t have a Redwood City ferry terminal, for example. Fewer ferries means less commuter capacity and thus more expensive housing. We’ve barely come to terms with how much historical harm we’re still dealing with across the state.
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Mar 25, 2018 02:45
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FilthyImp posted:It's pretty much like the Italian Themed devs in Downtown L.A. Bay peninsula, Luxury is something built after 1938 which actually has hot water available for more than 15 minutes every morning. 
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Mar 25, 2018 02:49
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Can someone show me one of these new dorm arcologies? A Zillow link or something?
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Mar 25, 2018 03:51
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here's the website for one of them https://www.themedici.com/
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Mar 25, 2018 03:57
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Grand Prize Winner posted:here's the website for one of them which one was the one that got torched during construction, that ruled
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Mar 25, 2018 04:09
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Grand Prize Winner posted:here's the website for one of them
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Mar 25, 2018 04:13
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a sink that gives itself rimjobs?stone cold posted:which one was the one that got torched during construction, that ruled this one, and yeah that was pretty rad https://www.thedavinciapts.com/
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Mar 25, 2018 05:28
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Grand Prize Winner posted:here's the website for one of them I see medium density with communal amenities. A "doorman" seems a little out of place for LA, but maybe they're shooting for NYC transplants. Came to hate it, don't really hate it. I grew up poor af and one of the few advantages was the apartment complex we lived in. It wasn't luxury like this one, but it had communal amenities and there were always kids to play with and at least one adult we could get to supervise. It was a community and one I benefitted from greatly in my single parent, latchkey kid situation. So maybe the bougies who buy into luxury will avoid common areas, but in general, I'd love to see more apartment complexes like this. Beats the gently caress out of single family homes or townhouses.
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Mar 25, 2018 06:16
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Ron Jeremy posted:it had communal amenities and there were always kids to play with and at least one adult we could get to supervise.   Dude, you think a community like that will tolerate kids unsupervised in the commons? Much less provide a kind and patient stranger to watch while they cavort? There's one development in that group that has a kids play area. The rest are geared towards young career minded folks that want to be close enough to the hip parts of town without having to take the metro or live next to a bunch of Mexicans or (ugh) walk around the neighborhood. I'd love to see more complexes of that density, with reasonable amenities (exercise, pool, study area) that were in line with what the local community can afford. Also those building are slumlordy as hell, will steal the deposit, and some are infested with rats. Luxury at its finest
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Mar 25, 2018 18:27
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Yeah I'm not saying this particular complex is that, but that these settings *can be* the communitarian answer to the alienation of American suburbanization. I also agree that it'd be better if they were in line with what the community could afford as opposed to chasing the luxury dollar. It feels quite a bit like it's cheap with a facade of luxury: drywall, laminate, granite counter tops.
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Mar 25, 2018 20:03
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Ron Jeremy posted:It feels quite a bit like it's cheap with a facade of luxury: drywall, laminate, granite counter tops. But yeah... I guess many rentals try to pass just not quite the cheapest finish surfaces money can buy as luxury.
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Mar 25, 2018 21:05
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Ron Jeremy posted:It feels quite a bit like it's cheap with a facade of luxury: drywall, laminate, granite counter tops. Drywall? Is there something better that the non poors use? Also laminate is awesome.
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Mar 25, 2018 21:17
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I'm guessing that it's not that drywall, laminate, and granite counter tops are poor, but rather they're relatively cheap good things you can add to a building to make it seem luxury.
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Mar 25, 2018 21:25
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I'm guessing that it's not that drywall, laminate, and granite counter tops are poor, but rather they're relatively cheap good things you can add to a building to make it seem luxury. What is there that's cheaper than drywall? I thought that was basically the bare minimum now. It's even cheaper than cinderblocks.
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Mar 26, 2018 02:28
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Cup Runneth Over posted:I'm guessing that it's not that drywall, laminate, and granite counter tops are poor, but rather they're relatively cheap good things you can add to a building to make it seem luxury. Yes this is what I was trying imply.
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Mar 26, 2018 03:20
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Sundae posted:What is there that's cheaper than drywall? I thought that was basically the bare minimum now. It's even cheaper than cinderblocks. 
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Mar 26, 2018 04:17
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Completely getting rid of Prop 13 is a bad idea. We had this discussion before and old folks who lived in the neighborhood for 40 years will lose their houses, which is a) legit tragic and b) exactly the kind of story that our economically right-wing media will jump on, thus furthering the bullshit narrative that repealing tax cuts is a bad idea.
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Mar 26, 2018 19:04
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I just got a notice that my rent will go up in June, like it does every year, by 5%. I'm fortunate that I'm way below market right now and I can still afford the new rate, but I suddenly noticed the obvious disconnect between people worrying about property tax increases causing people to lose their homes and the relative silence about how landlords can jack up rent to the same end, with impunity. Also, my landlords are wacko and always send stuff like this via registered mail for like $6. Maybe stop spending so much on postage and my rate wouldn't have to go up! (Also, fix the sprinklers' water leak I told you about a decade ago.)
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Mar 26, 2018 19:14
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Completely getting rid of Prop 13 is a bad idea. We had this discussion before and old folks who lived in the neighborhood for 40 years will lose their houses, which is a) legit tragic and b) exactly the kind of story that our economically right-wing media will jump on, thus furthering the bullshit narrative that repealing tax cuts is a bad idea. that’s a howard jarvis taxpayer association tier lie tho the biggest beneficiaries on the residential side of the prop 13 equation are rich dirtbags in really nice coastal cities (malibu, etc.) now don’t lie to me and start crying about poor old people in malibu of all places
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Mar 26, 2018 19:29
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:We had this discussion before and old folks who lived in the neighborhood for 40 years will lose their houses
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Mar 26, 2018 19:45
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Y'all could just have a homestead exclusion on primary residences when it comes to property tax, but that would go against the general CA model of fixing problems in the most complicated way possible. Or as one of the super liberal guys I eat lunch with said when I told him about PA's homestead exclusions, "But what about all my rental properties? My taxes would go up on those!"
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Mar 26, 2018 20:34
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State-wide rent control there i said it
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Mar 26, 2018 20:43
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Completely getting rid of Prop 13 is a bad idea. We had this discussion before and old folks who lived in the neighborhood for 40 years will lose their houses, which is a) legit tragic and b) exactly the kind of story that our economically right-wing media will jump on, thus furthering the bullshit narrative that repealing tax cuts is a bad idea. Orrrrr, you could let people freeze their home valuation for the purpose of property taxes, with the condition that the state gets right of first refusal at that price when the owner wants to sell. I really like this idea because it separates the two perspectives/uses of a home, you can treat your house as a home OR an investment property, but not both at the same time.
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Mar 26, 2018 20:50
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stone cold posted:that’s a howard jarvis taxpayer association tier lie tho I actually know a couple of people in Mission Viejo who would lose their house if Prop 13 was repealed. One of them has Alzheimer's. So either I'm deep cover anti-Prop 13 or, you know, I think it would honestly hurt vulnerable people. Parts of Prop 13 are necessary because CA's housing prices are too volatile. Please note that commercial real-estate people and landlords can suck it (and I used to be one), I don't care about them at all.
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Mar 26, 2018 20:54
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How about we take the baby step that other civilized places have made where you have an exclusion for elderly homeowners on their primary residence, but nothing for other properties, commercial, rentals, etc etc? Alternatively, I'm all game for making the elderly sell their houses that they can no longer afford. But I'm an rear end in a top hat and that's probably not the best approach either.
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Mar 26, 2018 20:56
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Prop 13 only helps the elderly that also currently hold real estate wealth but takes away from services for all elderly and needy communities by reducing the tax base. So it all comes down to if you favor the haves or the have-nots when subsidizing their needs.
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Mar 26, 2018 23:05
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Prop 13 is never going anywhere, even after the last boomer draws their last breath. I’m set to inherit a dinky two bedroom ranch home in Menlo Park worth nearly a million dollars and so are many of my friends. We need that equity for when we get screwed out of social security.
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Mar 27, 2018 02:02
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Trabisnikof posted:Prop 13 only helps the elderly that also currently hold real estate wealth but takes away from services for all elderly and needy communities by reducing the tax base. look we should only care for the elderly who were smart and rich enough to side with the howard jarvis tax payer association back in their youth in the seventies sorry, havenot olds, you’re far less important than the geriatric rich
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Mar 27, 2018 02:05
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:Completely getting rid of Prop 13 is a bad idea. We had this discussion before and old folks who lived in the neighborhood for 40 years will lose their houses, which is a) legit tragic and b) exactly the kind of story that our economically right-wing media will jump on, thus furthering the bullshit narrative that repealing tax cuts is a bad idea. Won’t Somebody Think Of The Boomer Libs???????
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Mar 27, 2018 02:47
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Grand Prize Winner posted:here's the website for one of them i spit at this place (in spirit) whenever i drive past its ugly rear end. hot gently caress its ugly and huge. out of place and tacky and dumb. always looks empty too. theres this one, the orsini, and like the medicinicinni or some bull poo poo
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Mar 27, 2018 03:40
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im watvhing this gubernatorial debate and its pretty funny. delaine eastin is owning which is cool i think. is she good? she seems cool. idk. e: thjese guys are all making GBS threads on the super train, which is pissing me off. is the super train retarded? yes. will the super train ever get built? no, of course not. is the super train a huge pork boondoggle? absolutely. did i vote for the super train? oh yes. do i support the super train? yes, emphatically. one day i will ride the super train, at over 2000 mph from LA, to SF, and then all the way to the moon base. mark my words
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Mar 27, 2018 03:45
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you will ride the super train from Merced to Fresno and you will like it
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