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Xarbala posted:drat, yo Soon, we'll have to discard our calendar for a new timeline. Otherwise, we'll be invaded by aliens.
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Mar 23, 2018 12:00
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Xarbala posted:drat, yo We are further away in time from Gundam Wing than Gundam Wing was from the original Gundam
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Mar 23, 2018 12:36
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Gundam Wing is probably older than some goons.
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Mar 23, 2018 12:42
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OneMoreTime posted:Hey ya'll, here to ask a question that I'm sure has been asked before. I plan on introducing my girlfriend to a little bit of Gundam and I was thinking about starting out (and probably ending it at) 0080. Do you think this would be a logical starting point or there something else I should go with first? Much appreciated in advance. Turn A... Gundam Seriously, I would love to have been able to watch Turn A Gundam with zero prior Gundam knowledge, because that's the perspective of literally every character but Corin Nander. ...Holy poo poo, we're all Corin Nander.
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Mar 23, 2018 16:25
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To be fair only two shows have had seasons, gundam 00 and IBO. Age completed it's whole lovely run in the usual gundam fashion.
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Mar 23, 2018 18:34
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brainwrinkle posted:Victory is good again after an episode where Flanders and Haro stage a daring rescue mission to save a naked Üso from bath torture That episode was kind of weird. It was like Tomino wrote it as a joke, and then realised ‘oh, right, paedophile rapists are awful’ and played Lupe for unsettling drama from then onwards.
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Mar 23, 2018 20:59
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Darth Walrus posted:That episode was kind of weird. It was like Tomino wrote it as a joke, and then realised ‘oh, right, paedophile rapists are awful’ and played Lupe for unsettling drama from then onwards. It is exceptionally weird and uncomfortable. She just can't understand why he wouldn't be into getting raped by a much older woman as a hostage.
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Mar 23, 2018 23:30
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The Notorious ZSB posted:It is exceptionally weird and uncomfortable. She just can't understand why he wouldn't be into getting raped by a much older woman as a hostage. And the whole episode is framed as wacky comedy hijinks, right up to ending with a naked Uso climbing a curtain while exasperated Zanscare officers poke at him with brooms.
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Mar 24, 2018 00:15
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Raxivace posted:Gundam Wing is probably older than some goons. I am only older than it by 2 months.
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Mar 24, 2018 00:20
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That episode is a lot, but the one before it is worse imo. The one where they purposefully get captured and sent to a POW camp by a Zanscare-aligned colony. Then Marbet and Oliver get married somewhat as a ruse to make the guards less suspicious so that they can escape?? It’s just such a bizarre and lovely treatment for the Marbet/Oliver/Junko subplot since Junko died one or two episodes ago. And they end up getting saved by Katejina and Cronicle loving up their raid on the colony. e: forgot to mention that the colony was preparing to execute everyone not from the Federation military in the group since they were obviously League Militaire terrorists. And they got captured on purpose. brainwrinkle fucked around with this message at 01:11 on Mar 24, 2018 |
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Mar 24, 2018 01:07
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Raxivace posted:Gundam Wing is probably older than some goons. It is 3 years older than me... Speaking of Wing, I just finished my RG Wing Gundam EW the other day. It looks pretty nice IMO.
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Mar 24, 2018 01:21
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Raxivace posted:Gundam Wing is probably older than some goons. 
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Mar 24, 2018 01:47
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Jesus tap dancing Christ I was in high school when Wing came to the states.
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Mar 24, 2018 02:26
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Zedd posted:I'm as old as 0080: War in the Pocket is. You're only 29, my dude. You're still young.
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Mar 24, 2018 04:30
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Beelerzebub posted:You're only 29, my dude. You're still young. Yeah. He's got a whole year before the Sandmen hunt him down to be renewed.
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Mar 24, 2018 04:53
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chiasaur11 posted:Yeah. He's got a whole year before the Sandmen hunt him down to be renewed. Every day hiding from them is hell for me  .
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Mar 24, 2018 05:02
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Hey, I got that reference... to a 42 year old movie.  Thankfully I'm not actually that old.
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Mar 24, 2018 05:44
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Gundam Unicorn made a cameo in Pacific Rim: Uprising. 
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Mar 25, 2018 21:00
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Lord Koth posted:Hey, I got that reference... to a 42 year old movie.
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Mar 25, 2018 21:19
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Darkman Fanpage posted:Gundam Unicorn made a cameo in Pacific Rim: Uprising. In what form? Kit on someone's desk?
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Mar 26, 2018 01:45
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Neddy Seagoon posted:In what form? Kit on someone's desk? The fight takes place in Tokyo, and they end up near the 1/1 scale statue
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Mar 26, 2018 01:50
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Neddy Seagoon posted:In what form? Kit on someone's desk? As a statue outside of the Anaheim Electronics building
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Mar 26, 2018 01:51
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I've been thinking about Victory Gundam lately, and well, what could have been if Tomino wasn't depressed and fighting against toy execs during its production. Like in some alternate world it's actually a good show. If it were up to you, how would you fix it? Some random screencap from the show: 
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Mar 26, 2018 09:54
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Seed Destiny might have been shite, but it did have some good music attached. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ol4pGlJeTpU
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Mar 26, 2018 10:21
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Schneider Heim posted:I've been thinking about Victory Gundam lately, and well, what could have been if Tomino wasn't depressed and fighting against toy execs during its production. Like in some alternate world it's actually a good show. The motorcycle poo poo was loving dumb. Why the hell do battleships need tires. Why are tires a form of flying transportation. His ghost rider send off when he finally gets it as a side character is beyond silly too. I really can't say how disappointed I was by Victory, I expected so much better from it.
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Mar 26, 2018 16:17
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Docker Iqq was the only good part of victory, you take that back.
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Mar 26, 2018 19:56
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Logicblade posted:Docker Iqq was the only good part of victory, you take that back. The name Jinn Gehenam will live on for a thousand years!
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Mar 26, 2018 20:02
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I decided to listen to the Build Fighters soundtrack again today, and hot take it's still really good.
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Mar 26, 2018 20:08
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The motorcycle battleships are the best part of Victory holy poo poo.
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Mar 26, 2018 20:41
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Honestly, so much of Victory is tied up in toy company weirdness and Tomino's issues that it'd be an entirely different show if those weren't involved.
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Mar 26, 2018 21:27
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Hellioning posted:Honestly, so much of Victory is tied up in toy company weirdness and Tomino's issues that it'd be an entirely different show if those weren't involved. Yeah, it's not like Gundam Age or 0083 where the plot is so stupid it's easy to come up with ways it could've been done better. The changes people would want for Victory are stuff like, "make the Shrike Team stick around longer" or "Change the perception of women that the creator had at the time that underlies and informs the whole series"
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Mar 26, 2018 21:35
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah, it's not like Gundam Age or 0083 where the plot is so stupid it's easy to come up with ways it could've been done better. The changes people would want for Victory are stuff like, "make the Shrike Team stick around longer" or "Change the perception of women that the creator had at the time that underlies and informs the whole series" yeah, the thing about Victory is, it's very pointedly not stupid. it's just  as all gently caress from pretty much beginning to end.
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Mar 26, 2018 21:56
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Logicblade posted:Docker Iqq was the only good part of victory, you take that back. This is at least partially true, but it doesn't make the actual concept any less dumb. The physics of all those units (Gundam isn't that loose a robot sci fi with their physics) just hurt my head. None of it makes sense. Nothing that Zanscare does or deploys makes any sense, even in the context of hyper evil space villains. The Notorious ZSB fucked around with this message at 22:26 on Mar 26, 2018 |
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Mar 26, 2018 22:24
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chumbler posted:I decided to listen to the Build Fighters soundtrack again today, and hot take it's still really good. My favourite track that isn't the Meister themes is the match intro one with the countdown. Such an excellent way to hype up the start of every fight  .
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Mar 27, 2018 01:52
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Guy Goodbody posted:Yeah, it's not like Gundam Age or 0083 where the plot is so stupid it's easy to come up with ways it could've been done better. The changes people would want for Victory are stuff like, "make the Shrike Team stick around longer" or "Change the perception of women that the creator had at the time that underlies and informs the whole series" That is true. Might as well be another show entirely. I just have a real soft spot for the Victory and V2 Gundams. I also liked the Akira Senju score, it was somewhat more Western-sounding than the usual fare. Now TV anime F91 would have been something, though.
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Mar 27, 2018 02:10
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There's always the possibility they'll make a TV adaptation of crossbone... Or they'll make yet another federation/zeon conflict
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Mar 27, 2018 02:28
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I really don't get people's fascination with F91 as a concept for a full show. I was completely unsurprised to read that translated interview on Zeonic that talked about how F91 was intended to be the start of a new era of Gundam stories that'd replace the Zeon era now that Char's Counterattack had closed the door on Amuro and Char, because it's basically a soft reboot with a lot of the same factors of 0079. Kid falling in to Gundam a family member designed, masked villain with a family member close to the hero, aristocratic villains in world war II-esque mobile suits talking about elitism on Earth, older and more principled villain ostensibly running the faction while a younger, more charismatic but wilder villain really has the wheel and pushes the faction to doing way more terrible things. And yes, I'm aware that some of those elements are common to more than Gundam, but the point is that F91 just seems like another attempt to capture the lightning in a bottle that was 0079 to me; including emphasizing the bits people liked (the Sayla character has more promience) and pushing to the background the bits people didn't (the Guncannon is just a museum piece used for a short period). It's not a bad concept or anything, there's just nothing there inherently interesting to me because most of it's already been done in UC as is.
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A new New Gundam Breaker trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FTd8xr9y5ig
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tsob posted:I really don't get people's fascination with F91 as a concept for a full show. I was completely unsurprised to read that translated interview on Zeonic that talked about how F91 was intended to be the start of a new era of Gundam stories that'd replace the Zeon era now that Char's Counterattack had closed the door on Amuro and Char, because it's basically a soft reboot with a lot of the same factors of 0079. Kid falling in to Gundam a family member designed, masked villain with a family member close to the hero, aristocratic villains in world war II-esque mobile suits talking about elitism on Earth, older and more principled villain ostensibly running the faction while a younger, more charismatic but wilder villain really has the wheel and pushes the faction to doing way more terrible things. And yes, I'm aware that some of those elements are common to more than Gundam, but the point is that F91 just seems like another attempt to capture the lightning in a bottle that was 0079 to me; including emphasizing the bits people liked (the Sayla character has more promience) and pushing to the background the bits people didn't (the Guncannon is just a museum piece used for a short period). It's not a bad concept or anything, there's just nothing there inherently interesting to me because most of it's already been done in UC as is. At the time the only other stuff in Gundam were the SD shorts and War in the Pocket. It's interesting to look at F91 because it is a glimpse into what could have been for Gundam instead of what we got. If that series had been made instead of 0083 then it possibly could have diverged wildly. Just look at how Crossbone Gundam differs from usual UC stories and extrapolate. While 0080 was the first non Tomino UC series, I feel like it was 0083 that really led to the obsession with One Year War side stories and the endless proliferation of Zaku designs. F91 is seen as the stillborn alternative to that. It probably would have just been feds vs zeon with zeon replaced by the Vanguard, but Gundam will always be about one super white suit mowing down a bunch of green suits. Arc Hammer fucked around with this message at 02:59 on Mar 27, 2018 |
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