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Actually for coil at least a few of the instant death hits are something like 125% your max HP instead of being a fixed damage amount.
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Axle_Stukov posted:Actually for coil at least a few of the instant death hits are something like 125% your max HP instead of being a fixed damage amount. I wonder if this is an intentional decision to prevent expansions from completely trivializing old stuff. I remember in WoW, the Lich King fight from the second expansion had a move he would use at the end of the fight that instantly killed the entire raid. Nowadays it doesn't even make your health bar visibly move.
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Mar 31, 2018 01:06
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vOv posted:Huh, I have DRK at 62 and I guess I never looked too closely at it. A lot of the animations are actually really cool looking, but you never really get the chance to look at them.
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SonicRulez posted:A lot of the animations are actually really cool looking, but you never really get the chance to look at them. One thing I really like about DRK is that the basic attack animations have a lot of weight to them. There's a bit of a slow-moving delay while your character starts their swing, then the actual attack, then a giant follow-through, and it really looks like your character is swinging a giant heavy sword around instead of just whipping it around like it's made of cardboard.   Also, Deathbringer is cool and good, glowy lines are cool and good.
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Mar 31, 2018 01:23
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I was just in a dungeon with a BLM who macro'd /say "Yoga flaaaames" for every cast of Fire IV. If you put me in a room with them and Hitler and a gun I'd have to think real hard about my decision.
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ImpAtom posted:I was just in a dungeon with a BLM who macro'd /say "Yoga flaaaames" for every cast of Fire IV. If you put me in a room with them and Hitler and a gun I'd have to think real hard about my decision. Shoot Hitler and beat that mage to death with the gun IMO.
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This is extremely Vagrant Story and I love it.
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So I've been mucking around with ninja for something different, and unlocked the third mudra, which immediately spat out four new ninjutsu combos on top of the three I already have. Would anyone mind explaining to me what these new ones do, and which ninjutsu combos are worth using?
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Cythereal posted:So I've been mucking around with ninja for something different, and unlocked the third mudra, which immediately spat out four new ninjutsu combos on top of the three I already have. Would anyone mind explaining to me what these new ones do, and which ninjutsu combos are worth using? Shuriken - Good for weaving in between gcds. Raiton - stronger but slower shuriken. Use with kassastu, the 50 ability. otherwise you'll clip your gcd and lose some damage. Katon - aoe attack. use with any groups. Huton - 70 second speed buff. Maintain this always. Annoying to refresh at first, gets much easier at 54. Doton - aoe dot that tanks will always drag enemies out of. Amazing with kassastu. Suiton - lets you use Trick Attack in combat. Trick Attack is a really good debuff that you want to use whenever possible, or synced up with other damage debuffs. Hyoton - garbage.
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Brainamp posted:Shuriken - Good for weaving in between gcds. Erm, could you clarify what mudra combo goes into which? I get shuriken, lightning bolt, and fireball - just ten, ten-chi, and chi-ten. All the NPC tells you about the -ton combos is one quick sentence of each and with the Japanese names I lost track of what was what immediately.
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Mar 31, 2018 02:43
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Cythereal posted:Erm, could you clarify what mudra combo goes into which? I get shuriken, lightning bolt, and fireball - just ten, ten-chi, and chi-ten. All the NPC tells you about the -ton combos is one quick sentence of each and with the Japanese names I lost track of what was what immediately. https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Fuma_Shuriken https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Katon https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Raiton https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Hyoton https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Huton https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Doton https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Suiton
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Mar 31, 2018 02:48
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Doton's easy to remember because it puts a dot... on.
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If you go to your actions menu, then scroll to the bottom, it will tell you the combinations. There are two for each combo. And yeah, the game just kinda dumps them on you.
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Mar 31, 2018 02:53
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There's two possible orders for each of the 3-string justu, but use jin>chi>ten for Huton, jin>ten>chi for Doton, and ten>chi>jin for Suiton. For Doton and Suiton, those are the orders you're gonna want to use for your level 70 ability when you get it, so its easiest to just learn the muscle memory for those two patterns as you level.
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Cythereal posted:Erm, could you clarify what mudra combo goes into which? I get shuriken, lightning bolt, and fireball - just ten, ten-chi, and chi-ten. All the NPC tells you about the -ton combos is one quick sentence of each and with the Japanese names I lost track of what was what immediately. Here's what I did to wrap my head around the Mudra system: turn it into 3 button combinations. Ten = 1, Chi = 2, Jin = 3. What helps here is that the Mudras follow two simple rules that drastically reduce the number of combinations you need to memorize: Mudras do not double up. A single Mudra is always going to be Shuriken. Thus, all the combinations work like this: Shuriken: any 1/2/3 Raiton: 1-2 or 3-2 Katon: 2-1 or 3-1 Hyoton: Huton: 3-2-1 or 2-3-1 Doton: 1-3-2 or 3-1-2 Suiton: 1-2-3 or 2-1-3 The bold combinations are the easier ones to remember and fit in with Ten Chi Jin at 70. EponymousMrYar fucked around with this message at 03:01 on Mar 31, 2018 |
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Leal posted:You almost have to admire just how much of an extra mile they want to punish you for Savage modes, or the default bahamut coils. Mess up a mechanic? Get hit for 90k damage. That was for level 50 content at what, i80 as the item level? Here we are at level 70 with item levels in the 360 and I still don't think we are at that level. Maybe a War can with thrill of battle? A lot of ARR stuff is survivable these days. The damage cap was only 30k early on so you can survive stuff like Ifrit enrage (he chain casts it and is invincible so it doesn't really matter) not hitting the shield in Leviathan and Twintania enrage even on non-tank classes. It's only once second coil rolls around that you get stuff like the elemental dragons that hit for 90k.
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So my friend and I just started the game, we're both on Excalibur. So far we're only at level 10, I went marauder they went arcanist. Are there any recommendations on what we should and shouldn't do?
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Mar 31, 2018 03:07
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With mudra, what determines what you get is how many you press and which is the last one you press, along with no duplicates. Those are basically the only rules.
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Zokari posted:I wonder if this is an intentional decision to prevent expansions from completely trivializing old stuff. I remember in Cataclysm, we had planned to drag someone through ICC for the hell of it, but couldn't because between the inflated health pools and stat ratings at 85 being lower than what they were at 80, we couldn't get past the "heal up to full, or you die" mechanic, and we didn't have a Disco priest on hand.
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asterioth posted:So my friend and I just started the game, we're both on Excalibur. So far we're only at level 10, I went marauder they went arcanist. Are there any recommendations on what we should and shouldn't do? Tell them not to use Physick unless they become a Scholar.
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asterioth posted:So my friend and I just started the game, we're both on Excalibur. So far we're only at level 10, I went marauder they went arcanist. Are there any recommendations on what we should and shouldn't do? Get in a goon guild.
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EponymousMrYar posted:Here's what I did to wrap my head around the Mudra system: turn it into 3 button combinations. Good info, thank you. I'd already set up my mudras in a similar configuration to make them easier to remember. Getting the impression ninja's a tad clunky, though.
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You want to do 3-1-2 for Doton, otherwise you do Hyoton instead of Katon during TCJ.
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ninja is fun but its also like the hardest dps in the game. i think only bard has a higher apm.
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Sarrisan posted:ninja is fun but its also like the hardest dps in the game. i think only bard has a higher apm. How'd you know bard and ninja were the my fourth and fifth highest level classes?  I'm still primarily a healer, but I'm trying different dps classes now trying to find one to my liking for future MSQ poo poo after playing 1-70 through 4.1 as a healer (WHM, then AST once I reached HW). Never again.
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Cythereal posted:How'd you know bard and ninja were the my fourth and fifth highest level classes? If you want EZ mode for MSQ stuff go Red Mage. It's a DPS class that can also be a low-budget healer.
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Become a summoner, you're gonna also round out your healer classes AND you get to drop dragon lasers.
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Ninja comes together exactly at 54 when Armor Crush lets you enjoy mudras instead of babysitting them with Huton. Then at 60 I feel like 4 man dungeons become fun with some utility and some oGCDs. Then the addition of the bar for stuff until 70 is just extra fun on top. Ten Chi Jin was a mistake.
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I admit I made a keyboard macro for the mudras for when I played ninja and I have absolutely no regrets doing so. Sue me, I'm middle aged.
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Is 1900 health really the best potion there is? Or is that just the best on the market? My dragoon is feeling pretty underpowered right now in the early 60's and going through the stormblood MSQ. I got 260 armor with poetics and i think my spear is 250, but maybe it's just a lot better in longer fights. Seems odd to be going through the rotation 3 times on a simple same level mob, but maybe that's just what it is at that level.
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Eltoasto posted:Is 1900 health really the best potion there is? Or is that just the best on the market? My dragoon is feeling pretty underpowered right now in the early 60's and going through the stormblood MSQ. I got 260 armor with poetics and i think my spear is 250, but maybe it's just a lot better in longer fights. Seems odd to be going through the rotation 3 times on a simple same level mob, but maybe that's just what it is at that level.
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Asimo posted:I admit I made a keyboard macro for the mudras for when I played ninja and I have absolutely no regrets doing so. I will.
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Asimo posted:I admit I made a keyboard macro for the mudras for when I played ninja and I have absolutely no regrets doing so. 
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Eltoasto posted:Is 1900 health really the best potion there is? Or is that just the best on the market? My dragoon is feeling pretty underpowered right now in the early 60's and going through the stormblood MSQ. I got 260 armor with poetics and i think my spear is 250, but maybe it's just a lot better in longer fights. Seems odd to be going through the rotation 3 times on a simple same level mob, but maybe that's just what it is at that level. if you got some poetics to spare go buy the 260 spear from idyllshire and then up it to the 270 one (500+100), it might not seem like much but it's a pretty big jump in power you can also upgrade your shire gear for 100 poetics each too other than that second wind and bloodbath are good for soloing mobs are relatively short c/d, and you can also summon your chocobro (though i never remember to get gyshal greens personally)
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asterioth posted:So my friend and I just started the game, we're both on Excalibur. So far we're only at level 10, I went marauder they went arcanist. Are there any recommendations on what we should and shouldn't do? Join a goon guild. Other than that, in no particular order:
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Two key questions. One, on DRK in random leveling dungeons, I keep running into pubs getting aggro on mobs before I do. Is this them being moto as gently caress or possibly stupid, or is DRK actually kind of hard to grab agg with? (Once I've Unleashed a couple of times it's usually fine.) Two, how do you do /emotes without the emitted message?
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Nessus posted:One, on DRK in random leveling dungeons, I keep running into pubs getting aggro on mobs before I do. Is this them being moto as gently caress or possibly stupid, or is DRK actually kind of hard to grab agg with? (Once I've Unleashed a couple of times it's usually fine.) If you have a regen on you, if it ticks before you can pick up the mobs then they will aggro to the healer. Otherwise, sometimes ranged will tag a mob before you can.
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TheHeadSage posted:If you have a regen on you, if it ticks before you can pick up the mobs then they will aggro to the healer. Otherwise, sometimes ranged will tag a mob before you can.
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Bonfire Lit posted:
New players are still better off doing them when they're vaguely relevant though, yeah.
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