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I thought their pronunciation of "Column Meaney" was a gag until I learned that that's how you actually pronounce "Colm."
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Holy moley T'Pol's mom loving sucks. "Hey honey you need to go through with this arranged marriage to some jerk you don't know because his daddy is important, what will Vulcan society think if you back out of your marriage to this rear end in a top hat. And omg quit Starfleet right now, because it looks bad to Vulcan society what will people think, Vulcan society, Vulcan society. omg Vulcan society is the most important thing in the universe, gently caress your happiness, Vulcan society." "OK I'll do it but only because that rear end in a top hat blackmailed me into it by letting me know I'm the reason you were fired from your prestigious research position and you will only get it back if I go through with this bullshit, I am literally letting a man blackmail me into sex just so you can have that prestigious job.""Thanks sweetie, you're doing the right thing."*two weeks later* "Oh hey honey btw I just quit my prestigious job you got back for me because I forgot to mention I joined this desert cult a few years ago when I became totally disillusioned with Vulcan society and stopped caring about what anyone thinks."
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Apr 3, 2018 18:40
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FlamingLiberal posted:Especially since Beyond didn’t do well. I am fine if they decide to just do a completely different Trek story with new characters at this point, but i have to assume that Paramount wouldn’t green light that. Paramount won't even green-light a new Transformers movie any more lol
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Apr 3, 2018 19:26
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I actually liked Enterprise but I must've completely blocked out the existence of a T'Pol's mom episode.
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Apr 3, 2018 19:29
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MillennialVulcan posted:15 million is a large enough number that it doesn't matter what percent of the population it is, it's still pre meditated murder of 15 million people, fucks sake. "One Bajoran murder is a tragedy, 15 million Bajoran murders is a statistic" - Gul Dukat, probably.
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Apr 3, 2018 20:34
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Kibayasu posted:It's probably a joke. Pretty sure they said early on that’s how they thought they’d heard it pronounced before. It honestly doesn’t read as one of their callback jokes/references. And if it is, it’s loving stupid.
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Apr 3, 2018 20:47
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WampaLord posted:"One Bajoran murder is a tragedy, 15 million Bajoran murders is a
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Apr 3, 2018 20:53
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How did they explain away the T'Pol in Starfleet thing? Wasn't Spock supposed to be the first Vulcan in Starfleet? Prequels are the worst.
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Apr 3, 2018 21:17
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Farmer Crack-rear end posted:Paramount won't even green-light a new Transformers movie any more lol Apparently they're doing a reboot after the Bumblebee movie comes out
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Apr 3, 2018 21:22
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Nicole de Boer is in a TV movie about a town where it's always Christmas, called, if I remember correctly, Christmas Town. It's possible that as a TV movie about Christmas it also stars half the cast of Starship Troopers.
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Apr 3, 2018 21:24
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womb with a view posted:How did they explain away the T'Pol in Starfleet thing? Wasn't Spock supposed to be the first Vulcan in Starfleet? Prequels are the worst. T'Pol is never in Starfleet, she's the Vulcan High Command liaison onboard the Enterprise.
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Apr 3, 2018 21:27
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womb with a view posted:How did they explain away the T'Pol in Starfleet thing? Wasn't Spock supposed to be the first Vulcan in Starfleet? Prequels are the worst.
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Apr 3, 2018 21:30
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Nessus posted:I don't think Spock was ever the first Vulcan in Starfleet, at least as treated by most of the story. He may have been the first Vulcan to serve on a non-Vulcan ship since the Intrepid, despite an English name (perhaps translated from the Vulcan?) had an all-Vulcan crew. Oh right, looking at Memory Alpha it seems I got that mixed up with him being "the first person ever admitted to the Vulcan Science Academy who then chose not to attend." 
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Apr 3, 2018 21:43
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T'pol sorta joins, by being more formally integrated into the command structure after a while. Like, I'm pretty sure she gains rank pips by the fourth season. I think that was their way to follow what her character progression was building towards while not undermining Spock.
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Apr 3, 2018 22:57
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The distinction is United Earth Starfleet vs United Federation of Planets Starfleet but that's very close to splitting hairs.
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Apr 3, 2018 22:59
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WampaLord posted:"One Bajoran murder is a tragedy, 15 million Bajoran murders is a statistic" - Gul Dukat, probably. Accurate
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Apr 4, 2018 00:01
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MillennialVulcan posted:15 million is a large enough number that it doesn't matter what percent of the population it is, it's still pre meditated murder of 15 million people, fucks sake. Fair point. Further to that, to most people (and writers) large enough numbers become pretty abstract so it really doesn't matter too much. Of course, we're all nerds on the internet so we care about it way more than anyone else.
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Apr 4, 2018 01:34
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And in the end, Dukat's own hubris gets billions of Cardassians killed by the very Dominion he allied them with.
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Cythereal posted:And in the end, Dukat's own hubris gets billions of Cardassians killed by the very Dominion he allied them with. Truly he was hoist with his own petard. Sorry, I forgot, this is Star Trek. Truly, he was hoist... with his own photon petard.
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Apr 4, 2018 04:10
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Hoist by his own Picard
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Apr 4, 2018 04:18
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CaveGrinch posted:Pretty sure they said early on that’s how they thought they’d heard it pronounced before. It honestly doesn’t read as one of their callback jokes/references. And if it is, it’s loving stupid. They were originally pronouncing Nana wrong, unintentionally, probably. Then they fixed the pronunciation of Nana but started botching Visitor, probably to piss off the people who corrected them about Nana 
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Apr 4, 2018 04:42
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womb with a view posted:How did they explain away the T'Pol in Starfleet thing? Wasn't Spock supposed to be the first Vulcan in Starfleet? Prequels are the worst. Spock was the 'first of his kind' in starfleet, but there were a bunch of Vulcans in Starfleet. I guess he was the first half-human-half-vulcan in Starfleet.
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MikeJF posted:Spock was the 'first of his kind' in starfleet, but there were a bunch of Vulcans in Starfleet. I guess he was the first half-human-half-vulcan in Starfleet. If this was from early TOS I feel like it kind of got soft retconned. It is interesting that TOS seemed to mostly segregate crews by species, although there'd be some logic to it from a life support point of view.
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Apr 4, 2018 05:53
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Especially in Season 1, TOS was really inconsistent about what exactly Starfleet and the Federation were. You could watch TOS and come to the conclusion that the Federation was something like NATO or the UN, and Earth was a soverign member of the alliance.
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Apr 4, 2018 06:15
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nmx posted:They were originally pronouncing Nana wrong, unintentionally, probably. Then they fixed the pronunciation of Nana but started botching Visitor, probably to piss off the people who corrected them about Nana How do you pronounce her name? In all my time, I’ve actually only ever seen it written down. I’m assuming Nar-nuh and then Visitor like the actual word?
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Apr 4, 2018 07:18
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Happy First Contact Eve everyone. Anyone got any plans?
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Apr 4, 2018 08:18
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WattsvilleBlues posted:Happy First Contact Eve everyone. Anyone got any plans? Oh, I was gonna make that T’Plana Hath cake with fondant Zephram like I do every year.
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Apr 4, 2018 08:37
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The_Doctor posted:How do you pronounce her name? In all my time, I’ve actually only ever seen it written down. I’m assuming Nar-nuh and then Visitor like the actual word? Apparently exactly how it looks. I don't know where you're getting the R from though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cBNHwmz_pHA&t=14s I don't know anything about the rest of that video. Just looking for the pronunciation.
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Apr 4, 2018 09:21
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Most people default to pronuncing it with the emphasis on the first syllable. Like "banana" without the "ba". (da bang da bang diggy diggy diggy shake the boogie said up jump the boogie)
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Pakled posted:Especially in Season 1, TOS was really inconsistent about what exactly Starfleet and the Federation were. You could watch TOS and come to the conclusion that the Federation was something like NATO or the UN, and Earth was a soverign member of the alliance.
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Apr 4, 2018 14:26
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CaveGrinch posted:So what’s with the Greatest Generation guys completely butchering Nana Visitor’s name every drat time they say it? They mentioned in an early DS9 episode that it is apparently pronounced "Nah-nah"?
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Apr 4, 2018 14:48
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I'm glad Enterprise is continuing to support the "Section 31 is dangerously incompetent and a bigger threat to Earth than the Borg and Dominion combined" interpretation.
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Apr 4, 2018 15:31
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FlamingLiberal posted:In one episode I think Kirk says they work for the UESPA (a made up Earth agency), or something to that effect Yeah, he used that title in conversation with Capt. Christopher in Tomorrow Is Yesterday. But (possible unpopular opinion incoming) I honestly think fans get too hung up on that. It's likely that UESPA is just an older/olden term for Starfleet that had mostly vanished by Picard's time. Kirk probably said it to Christopher because he didn't want to confuse him or give away too much about the future.
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Apr 4, 2018 17:04
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In Enterprise, there's some background decorations that indicates that the series's Earth Starfleet is part of United Earth Space Probe Agency.
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Apr 4, 2018 17:23
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:Yeah, he used that title in conversation with Capt. Christopher in Tomorrow Is Yesterday. So was this just Kirk loving up and not knowing the UESPA didn't exist yet in Christopher's time anyway. Like when Tom Paris tried to tell Sarah Silverman that he was chasing Soviet spies in 1995
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Apr 4, 2018 17:27
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VitalSigns posted:So was this just Kirk loving up and not knowing the UESPA didn't exist yet in Christopher's time anyway. If he explained the nature of it too much, it might have given Christopher too many details about the future and inadvertently changed the timeline. I think that's why he referred to UESPA instead of Starfleet.
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Apr 4, 2018 17:47
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VitalSigns posted:So was this just Kirk loving up and not knowing the UESPA didn't exist yet in Christopher's time anyway. no this was the series writers not yet having come up with The Federation or Starfleet at that point in TOS production
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Apr 4, 2018 18:20
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Maybe there’s only like 50 million Bajorans. Do we ever get a population figure?
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marktheando posted:Maybe there’s only like 50 million Bajorans. Do we ever get a population figure? From Memory Alpha: 3.8 billion Bajorans lived on Bajor in 2378
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F_Shit_Fitzgerald posted:If he explained the nature of it too much, it might have given Christopher too many details about the future and inadvertently changed the timeline. I think that's why he referred to UESPA instead of Starfleet. Except in that episode, Kirk doesn't seem to care about this at first and is happy explaining everything to Christopher and giving him the grand tour of the ship until Spock is like "hey captain, maybe loving up our own timeline might be a bad idea" and Kirk is like "drat, yeah."
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