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3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Bhodi posted:

Nono, it's always the passive voice

The craft then encountered a building-involved incident

It was in the passive voice. This isn't.

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Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat
Simultaneously, a building-involved incident was happenstanced.

Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Ornamental Dingbat posted:

She just confirmed it's one of these:



That's how DJ Kemistry died.

http://mixmag.net/feature/dj-history-kemistry posted:

Storm was driving Goldie and Kemi home after DJing in Southampton when a cat's eye came loose from the motorway, flew through the windscreen and fatally struck Kemi. She was just 35 years old; at the inquest the Coroner noted, 'She was a victim of a cruel twist of fate.'

"We went from the pinnacle, touring America and having the !K7 release, to me looking at coffins," says Storm.

Bacon Taco
Jun 8, 2006

Now with extra narwhal meat!
HAIKOOLIGAN
Dinosaur Gum

hobbesmaster posted:

He asked a kid's mom for a police report they filed by saying that the detective said she should do it. She kicked him out of her house and called the detective. The detective said that he just spoke to the attorney and the attorney said that the mom had authorized the report's release. While on the phone with the detective, the mother got a phone call from the lawyer asking again for the report saying that he'd just called the detective and the detective said to give the lawyer the report.

I am a lawyer, and that's acting in careless disregard of one's bar admission.

The thing that stands out to me in the indictment is the false attestation of meeting ASTM standards. Whether the designer had a degree or not is ultimately not that relevant, in part because whoever designs the thing, some third party is supposed to verify compliance with those ASTM standards. That's going to be what sends people to jail.

Rad-daddio
Apr 25, 2017

Bacon Taco posted:

I am a lawyer, and that's acting in careless disregard of one's bar admission.

The thing that stands out to me in the indictment is the false attestation of meeting ASTM standards. Whether the designer had a degree or not is ultimately not that relevant, in part because whoever designs the thing, some third party is supposed to verify compliance with those ASTM standards. That's going to be what sends people to jail.

Very true. The CEO of Wright Medical got a few years in club fed for knowingly releasing a device to market that was not tested and vetted properly. He went to jail not due to product failure, but the actual cover up of the lacking regulatory approvals.

Proteus Jones
Feb 28, 2013



Mo_Steel posted:

The narrator for their videos is wonderful, and I want him to narrate everything. His pacing and tone are flawless, and convey gravity and seriousness.

He is so good. Like a nice smokey whiskey being delivered to my ears. Except it's a whiskey made of sound waves.

Bhodi
Dec 9, 2007

Oh, it's just a cat.
Pillbug

Jerry Cotton posted:

It was in the passive voice. This isn't.
what are you jerry, my english teacher?!

Karate Bastard
Jul 31, 2007

Soiled Meat

Proteus Jones posted:

He is so good. Like a nice smokey whiskey being delivered to my ears. Except it's a whiskey made of sound waves.

I'm sorry, it's actually made of turpentine. Also the smoke is made of chlorine gas and/or phosgene.

Ursine Catastrophe
Nov 9, 2009

It's a lovely morning in the void and you are a horrible lady-in-waiting.



don't ask how i know

Dinosaur Gum
There’s growing evidence Tesla’s Autopilot handles lane dividers poorly

quote:

Tesla argues that this issue doesn't necessarily mean that Autopilot is unsafe. "Autopilot is intended for use only with a fully attentive driver," a Tesla spokesperson told KGO-TV.

https://www.tesla.com/autopilot posted:


3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Bhodi posted:

what are you jerry, my english teacher?!

Obviously not.

Space Kablooey
May 6, 2009



ah, but you see, the cars has only the hardware required, and the software is in deve- :commissar:

Gaius Marius
Oct 9, 2012

If you have to be fully attentive than what's the point? You might as well just drive the drat car then

Platystemon
Feb 13, 2012

BREADS
Hey Tesla, maybe you should collect data on driver corrections. If multiple drivers swerve at the same spot on the roadway day after day, there may be a problem.

Powershift
Nov 23, 2009


Platystemon posted:

Hey Tesla, maybe you should collect data on driver corrections. If multiple drivers swerve at the same spot on the roadway day after day, there may be a problem.

I'm sure they do, but only use it to train the algorithm in general instead of targeting specific spots. They probably believe they can fix all corners based on what's learned from a few, rather than needing the data to fix that specific corner.

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!

Powershift posted:

I'm sure they do, but only use it to train the algorithm in general instead of targeting specific spots. They probably believe they can fix all corners based on what's learned from a few, rather than needing the data to fix that specific corner.
BIG DATA and algorithms and poo poo can get you far, but you still need a human touch. A substantial amount of Google's creepy search accuracy can be credited to their army of independent contractors who massage individual search queries.

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Gobbeldygook posted:

BIG DATA and algorithms and poo poo can get you far, but you still need a human touch. A substantial amount of Google's creepy search accuracy can be credited to their army of independent contractors who massage individual search queries.

lol whut

Shinmera
Mar 25, 2013

I make games!

Yeah, Google has a bunch of people that are hired to sift through stuff that it indexes to figure out whether it's appropriate content or not. Many of them quit before long and have to take up psychological treatment afterwards due to the poo poo they have to witness day to day.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Gobbeldygook posted:

BIG DATA and algorithms and poo poo can get you far, but you still need a human touch. A substantial amount of Google's creepy search accuracy can be credited to their army of independent contractors who massage individual search queries.

That was like 6 years ago you may as well be talking about how to game the Dewey Decimal System.

They replaced all them people with RankBrain.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.
Earlier in the thread people brought up other L2 adaptive cruise/lane keeping systems and wondered why they don’t seem to cause as many crashes as Tesla. The main difference is that the rest of the industry will only let you go hands-off for up to 15 seconds* before the system disengages. Tesla will let you go for minutes at a time before prompting you, and the only driver monitoring system is a torque sensor on the steering wheel.

*The exception to this, and the best system on the market, is Cadillac’s Super Cruise. But that only engages on divided lane highways which GM has mapped, and uses a driver-facing camera that does gaze tracking to make sure you are concentrating on the road ahead: https://arstechnica.com/cars/2018/02/the-cadillac-ct6-review-super-cruise-is-a-game-changer/

None of these are self-driving, and in all cases the human driver is 100% responsible for situational awareness. But Tesla tries to have it both ways.

Malek
Jun 22, 2003

Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.
https://giant.gfycat.com/UnrealisticWelltodoIndianhare.webm

Gobbeldygook
May 13, 2009
Hates Native American people and tries to justify their genocides.

Put this racist on ignore immediately!
If you type something into Google there is a chance a human being will eventually get paid to analyze it and the search results.

PostNouveau posted:

That was like 6 years ago you may as well be talking about how to game the Dewey Decimal System.

They replaced all them people with RankBrain.
They did not, they still pay contractors through companies like Lionbridge, Leapforce, etc to evaluate search results.

Buff Skeleton
Oct 24, 2005


The truck looks so embarrassed about what just happened

Xaintrailles
Aug 14, 2015

:hellyeah::histdowns:

Shinmera posted:

Yeah, Google has a bunch of people that are hired to sift through stuff that it indexes to figure out whether it's appropriate content or not. Many of them quit before long and have to take up psychological treatment afterwards due to the poo poo they have to witness day to day.

I think you're confusing search engine evaluator (which I've done, and was not psychologically scarring at all at least for a goon) who gives feedback on searches and the child-porn-and-beheading moderators they also have for youtube etc. which sounds like an incredibly bad job.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

Buff Skeleton posted:

The truck looks so embarrassed about what just happened

It happens to a lot of men as they get older!

boar guy
Jan 25, 2007

Gobbeldygook posted:

If you type something into Google there is a chance a human being will eventually get paid to analyze it and the search results.

they have evaluators that manually grade pages against the algorithm's results in order to improve it but google takes no responsibility for the content in their index and search results have been ruled to be protected free speech under the first amendment so im not sure what the gently caress you're on about mate

or are you saying in general that search queries get evaluated and researched because yeah, they do, it's a marketing platform

Pigsfeet on Rye
Oct 22, 2008

I'm meat on the hoof
https://giant.gfycat.com/UnrealisticWelltodoIndianhare.mp4

Buff Skeleton posted:

The truck looks so embarrassed about what just happened


Azhais posted:

It happens to a lot of men as they get older!

Engine Dysfunction, or ED, is truly a problem of elderly vehicles; luckily, you can be ready anytime the moment strikes by using Valvoline Motor Oil with Cialis!

Malek
Jun 22, 2003

Shut up Girl!
And as always: Kill Hitler.

Pigsfeet on Rye posted:

Engine Dysfunction, or ED, is truly a problem of elderly vehicles; luckily, you can be ready anytime the moment strikes by using Valvoline Motor Oil with Cialis!

Note: Only works with Stick.

ekuNNN
Nov 27, 2004

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

drgitlin posted:

Tesla will let you go for minutes at a time before prompting you, and the only driver monitoring system is a torque sensor on the steering wheel.

I first read this as tongue sensor and was confused.

Azhais
Feb 5, 2007
Switchblade Switcharoo

ekuNNN posted:

I first read this as tongue sensor and was confused.

Only Commie traitors are confused by tongue prints. Please report to the power generation annex and enjoy your new career as reactor shielding.

- Friend Computer

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

Buff Skeleton posted:

The truck looks so embarrassed about what just happened

But at the same time thankful that the embarrassing bit ended with its death.

Say Nothing
Mar 5, 2013

by FactsAreUseless

SLOSifl
Aug 10, 2002


Well poo poo, put a flag on the drat thing, someone could get hurt.

hobbesmaster
Jan 28, 2008

Courtesy yospos:

Powerful Two-Hander
Mar 10, 2004

Mods please change my name to "Tooter Skeleton" TIA.


Mozi posted:

"Turns out things fly faster than Bernoulli said they would."

Navier-Stokes is only approximate and therefore..

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

quote:

*The exception to this, and the best system on the market, is Cadillac’s Super Cruise. But that only engages on divided lane highways which GM has mapped, and uses a driver-facing camera that does gaze tracking to make sure you are concentrating on the road ahead: 

My car will drive itself to work every morning, as long as I am in it, paying attention, and manipulating the controls approximately once a minute.

Trabant
Nov 26, 2011

All systems nominal.

Powershift posted:

I'm sure they do, but only use it to train the algorithm in general instead of targeting specific spots. They probably believe they can fix all corners based on what's learned from a few, rather than needing the data to fix that specific corner.

There's a "corner case" joke in here somewhere.

drgitlin
Jul 25, 2003
luv 2 get custom titles from a forum that goes into revolt when its told to stop using a bad word.

tactlessbastard posted:

My car will drive itself to work every morning, as long as I am in it, paying attention, and manipulating the controls approximately once a minute.

What make? The 15 second interval is common to everything I’ve tested so far (Audi, BMW, GM stuff, JLR, Nissan/Infiniti, FCA, Volvo, Toyota).

tactlessbastard
Feb 4, 2001

Godspeed, post
Fun Shoe

drgitlin posted:

What make? The 15 second interval is common to everything I’ve tested so far (Audi, BMW, GM stuff, JLR, Nissan/Infiniti, FCA, Volvo, Toyota).

I was abusing the word approximately to mock that autopilot's capability. :negative: I drive a manual civic that is almost old enough for a learner's permit of its own. I do have a very simple and largely downhill commute to work, though.

Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
Edit; holy gently caress clicked wrong thread :sweatdrop:

Sockington fucked around with this message at 05:15 on Apr 6, 2018

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Dirt Road Junglist
Oct 8, 2010

We will be cruel
And through our cruelty
They will know who we are

Trabant posted:

There's a "corner case" joke in here somewhere.

It's not the corner cases that get you, it's the edge cases.

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