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I still have a lot of bad memories of CD going through great gymnastics to justify ScarJo in GITS as not whitewashing despite reports of how they tried digitally using yellowface and that ScarJo's character ended up being an asian lady's mind in a white robot's body. CD sucks. Echo Chamber fucked around with this message at 16:57 on Apr 6, 2018 |
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Echo Chamber posted:I still have a lot of bad memories of CD going through great gymnastics to justify ScarJo in GITS as not whitewashing despite reports of how they tried digitally using yellowface and that ScarJo's character ended up being and asian lady's mind in a white robot's body. That seems a bit contraditory. Your argument for ScarJo in GitS being whitewashing is that the story is about whitewashing? It reminds me of the complaints about the "whitewashing" in Netflix's Altered Carbon.
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Bad Wolf posted:As far as I know, CA didn't own League of Super Critics, that was a Maker Studios thing. Lindsey can correct me if I'm wrong, as she was part of that particular clusterfuck too. You're not wrong. But at this point it's probably more like TNA/Impact.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:46
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:
Lol no way are there people that actually believe that.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:47
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Archer666 posted:Lol no way are there people that actually believe that. Trying not to engage BOTL aside, there were indeed people in the TVIV thread who earnestly insisted Kovacs should be played by a Japanese actor.
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Apr 6, 2018 17:53
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Sailor Moon was the first TV show I ever really liked (after I grew out of Sesame Street and Mr Dressup). I remember when I was a young kid about 8 or 9 years old and whenever I watched TV (like Animaniacs or Taz-Mania) it was just to pass the time, something to distract me. When I discovered Sailor Moon, I actually wanted to watch it although like every other boy back then I was in the closet about being a Sailor Moon fan and made up parodies to the theme song with the other kids. I remember the thing that really attracted me to Sailor Moon was discovering that there was a continuity in the show, there was a plot, and that blew my frickin' mind.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:07
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Archer666 posted:Lol no way are there people that actually believe that. The age of the internet should have taught us all by now that, just like there's nothing so mundane that some poor pervert doesn't wank to it, no belief is too stupid for some weirdo to passionately hold it.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:22
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I barely heard of Altered Carbon. But Ghost in the Shell was whitewashed as hell. It's one of those "what more loving proof do you want?" examples of whitewashing, but CD kept on rationalizing it.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:27
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Echo Chamber posted:I barely heard of Altered Carbon. Your example of whitewashing was kind of bad.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:36
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I am excited to watch a white nerd defend whitewashing.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:46
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Roth posted:I am excited to watch a white nerd defend whitewashing.
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Apr 6, 2018 18:52
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Neddy Seagoon posted:Trying not to engage BOTL aside, there were indeed people in the TVIV thread who earnestly insisted Kovacs should be played by a Japanese actor. but he was 
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Echo Chamber posted:I barely heard of Altered Carbon. Wasn’t that character actually meant to be white in the show? (Disclaimer: I haven’t watched all of the anime, nor have I seen it recently) I don’t think that getting bogged down in specific examples is necessarily good tho, it is manifestly obvious to any good faith observer that Western media is both not interested in casting POC and minority actors and that it is interested in substituting white male actors in for minorities whenever possible, even if it means blatantly loving up the source material. Edit: oh I seem to recall they added a twist to the film that was really dumb and quasi-racist even outside the meta context of casting so that’s a thing if I’m remembering correctly.
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Lightning Knight posted:I don’t think that getting bogged down in specific examples is necessarily good tho, it is manifestly obvious to any good faith observer that Western media is both not interested in casting POC and minority actors and that it is interested in substituting white male actors in for minorities whenever possible, even if it means blatantly loving up the source material. How does that apply to the GitS adaptation with its POC actors?
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Apr 6, 2018 19:03
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BravestOfTheLamps posted:How does that apply to the GitS adaptation with its POC actors? It doesn’t, necessarily. My point is that even if a given film isn’t whitewashing and has an appropriately diverse cast for the story, despite charges otherwise, it doesn’t change that the broader trend is to whitewash, not hire minority actors, and not approve or publish stories about minority experiences more generally.
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Lightning Knight posted:Edit: oh I seem to recall they added a twist to the film that was really dumb and quasi-racist even outside the meta context of casting so that’s a thing if I’m remembering correctly. It was the ultimate in "Having your cake and eating it too"
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Apr 6, 2018 19:08
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Echo Chamber posted:I barely heard of Altered Carbon. Beautiful av/post combo. Puppy Time posted:The age of the internet should have taught us all by now that, just like there's nothing so mundane that some poor pervert doesn't wank to it, no belief is too stupid for some weirdo to passionately hold it. But the inverse of this is that despite there always being someone who will believe these bizarre ideas, you have to also question how many people that actually is.
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Apr 6, 2018 19:17
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Roth posted:It was the ultimate in "Having your cake and eating it too" I'm poo poo at baking but the one thing I can do well is a moist chocolate-cake. The key-ingredient is rape-seed oil. They could have dodged a bullet on Ghost in the Shell by just transplanting the basic concept to the US and not having white people running around with Japanese names. It still would have flopped because I don't know how any part this of this half-cerebral, half-cheesecake property would be appealing to a mass audience.
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Apr 6, 2018 22:34
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Lightning Knight posted:Wasn’t that character actually meant to be white in the show? (Disclaimer: I haven’t watched all of the anime, nor have I seen it recently) In GitS? I haven't watched all of the Anime either but from what I remember she both works for some Japanese special division and is meant to be a very generic model, ergo she can blend in very easily to Japanese society as a result. It's not impossible that she might not look Asian I guess but the train of logic to get there is so pained that it's abundantly clear that wanting to cast a marketable white lady in the role was the overwhelming priority against all reason and logic. I must add, I don't begrudge Scarlett Johansson, and I understand that the creator of GitS doesn't really care about the issue, but it was ridiculously frustrating to see Hollywood's lovely views of race become so drat painfully obvious that at least casting an Asian lady for an Asian character in an Asian work which is set in Asia was too much to ask. I mean it's not like Johansson is hard up for work generally, or that her name prevented it from flopping, just take the "chance", drat.
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khwarezm posted:In GitS? I haven't watched all of the Anime either but from what I remember she both works for some Japanese special division and is meant to be a very generic model, ergo she can blend in very easily to Japanese society as a result. It's not impossible that she might not look Asian I guess but the train of logic to get there is so pained that it's abundantly clear that wanting to cast a marketable white lady in the role was the overwhelming priority against all reason and logic. Yeah sorry I meant that as a true/false not a “I think she’s supposed to be white.” I asked a friend after I posted that and he said she’s supposed to be Japanese, and if so then yeah it seems like a textbook case of whitewashing to me.
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Hello friends! Well, I still don't have many subs, but I shot up from 90 to 122 in about a week thanks to my Brigsby Bear video. What will surely keep those numbers going up is this - a video on the 1964 pseudo-propaganda film Soy Cuba, and why it has one of the greatest long takes in all of cinema: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aUXT1GOL1wI Please let me know what y'all think, and if there's a shot you want me to take a look at, I'd love to hear about it.
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Calico Heart posted:Hello friends! Well, I still don't have many subs, but I shot up from 90 to 122 in about a week thanks to my Brigsby Bear video. What will surely keep those numbers going up is this - a video on the 1964 pseudo-propaganda film Soy Cuba, and why it has one of the greatest long takes in all of cinema: This was a good video, great job!
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https://twitter.com/Chris_Stuckmann/status/982317053246885888 https://twitter.com/Chris_Stuckmann...378577013432320 Either he got no response from the Walkers or the response was as pleasing as hotdog water.
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The first I ever heard of Doug Walker was when Retsupurae absolutely wrecked him: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Mlst5OhXAY
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:The first I ever heard of Doug Walker was when Retsupurae absolutely wrecked him: I change my vote of bad Doug takes from Sailor Moon to his LP. God I forgot he tried to capitalize on that trend.
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GoneRampant posted:Let's start with "all of them" and work our way down from there. In terms of his actual production, it always struck me that he did so many reviews after other TGWTG people did them. Someone did the math once and he did ten movies right after MikeJ did them for Shameful Sequels, and he stole Mike's video premise of defending the prequels. Not hard to see why Mike felt like he was ignored by CA. I Hate Everything (March 20, 2018), Woody Woodpecker (2017): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqb80GVmfl4 Dhug, April 4, 2018: Woody Woodpecker. For added "gently caress you" points, the description of the NC video (even the preview of it in a Gaggle search) is an ad for some scummy shitfucker service that "ticks & leeches" onto popular videos.
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(e: borked original message, since it was ninja'd anyways). Re: Chris Stuckman. I figured he'd leave the site, because he didn't need them. Seeing that he actually tried to confront the management about issues at hand, and then left on a moral stance-- okay, I have much more respect for the guy. Sidenote: Horror Guru also left the site. Public-facing message is "no drama, just felt it was time to move on." lornekates fucked around with this message at 00:49 on Apr 7, 2018 |
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rujasu posted:Also, his videos were better when they were like 10 minutes instead of 30+, So, y'know, just putting this out there, buuuuut... Demo Reel's first episode(s) were about a group of "Swedes"-- video producers who wanted to make cheap homemade versions of popular movies, just like in that movie that Jack Black movie no one remembers anymore. (which means that yes, he was making a video series that copies someone elses' work ABOUT copying someone elses' work, which gives quite the insight into TBF...) Anyways, it boils down to he just wanted to make silly stupid versions of popular movies. (Before Demo Reel was rebooted to have, like, a plot-- and then was CANCELLED FOREVER). Flash forward a few years, and 99% of his content is "put on dumb costumes, have my friend fabricate a set, do some poor green screen work-- all to copy a movie's plot in the guise of a 'review'." It makes sense now.
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lornekates posted:I Hate Everything (March 20, 2018), Woody Woodpecker (2017): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqb80GVmfl4 I just can't watch IHE since he spent a long and belaboured part of his Emoji Movie video blaming the design and characterisation of the female emoji on those darn dirty SJWs.
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Viewtiful Jew posted:https://twitter.com/Chris_Stuckmann/status/982317053246885888 Beginning of March 2018:  Beginning of April 2018:  It's like the Rachel Maddow wall, only in reverse.
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The thing that always strikes me about the Bart's Nightmare LP...Retsupurae was made for the absolute worst of the worst. We're not just talking about people who used their ancient webcam pointed at a PC monitor to record LP's, we're talking about people who couldn't even point that webcam at the freaking screen properly - folks who made vids where the game takes up barely a quarter of the screen, on a freaking webcam, with single digit framerates. And yet the video made by folks who apparently do Internet vids for a freaking LIVING is still one of the absolute lowest quality, flat out worst vids they have ever covered. THAT'S how utterly useless and incompetent CA/Doug are.
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Kim Justice posted:The thing that always strikes me about the Bart's Nightmare LP...Retsupurae was made for the absolute worst of the worst. We're not just talking about people who used their ancient webcam pointed at a PC monitor to record LP's, we're talking about people who couldn't even point that webcam at the freaking screen properly - folks who made vids where the game takes up barely a quarter of the screen, on a freaking webcam, with single digit framerates. And yet the video made by folks who apparently do Internet vids for a freaking LIVING is still one of the absolute lowest quality, flat out worst vids they have ever covered. They were also made for deluded grandeur like Dahir Insaat. So it fits a twofer on CA.
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Smooth brained Doug Walker can't even do an LP right, unlike other cultured rational gamers. He's gonna be a Dog Walker soon once this ship sinks...any second now...
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SteelMentor posted:I just can't watch IHE since he spent a long and belaboured part of his Emoji Movie video blaming the design and characterisation of the female emoji on those darn dirty SJWs. Yeah what the gently caress was that all about? Haha, making jokes about that awful Emoji movie, how soulless the movie is! quote:And then you have a FEMALE character who is a WOMAN! SHE is a WOMAN!  uh....I mean, I was kinda falling off from IHE cause he started having some heightened sense of self importance. Namely in his twitter video where he said something like "I am going to kill you and your family" to his brother on twitter and got banned for it. He acts like twitter should of done a full background check to verify that IHE was indeed brothers with the guy, and therefore killing the guy's family would also mean killing himself... Except you know... its possible for someone in the family to want to kill everyone else in the family. This didn't really help reconcile him in my eyes.
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so last few days I have become completely loving obsessed with Todd in the Shadows and have not being able to stop Are their podcasts or videos that are like him but specifically about music scene from... idk, the 60's to the 90's. I seem to like that kind of thing.
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Hemingway To Go! posted:so last few days I have become completely loving obsessed with Todd in the Shadows and have not being able to stop I've plugged it in here like once before but That Awful Sound (the website is a week behind in episodes and is missing a chunk of archive for some reason, but you can find everything through itunes or a podcast app) focuses almost entirely on the 90s and early 2000s.
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IHE was giving the Emoji movie poo poo for trying to be overly political and failing because it's an emoji movie designed to sell apps, and nothing else. (only because the filmmakers couldn't make something else)
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Where the gently caress was the Emoji Movie trying to make a political statement, because slapping a coat of cliche Neoliberal GRRL POWER on your creepily sexualised female design really isn't a statement rather than a half-assed rear end-pull.
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SteelMentor posted:Where the gently caress was the Emoji Movie trying to make a political statement, because slapping a coat of cliche Neoliberal GRRL POWER on your creepily sexualised female design really isn't a statement rather than a half-assed rear end-pull. I remember that mailed fist of misandry and radicalism, the Spice Girls. Andrea Dworkin had nothing on those firebrands! It's a wonder the establishment survived at all.
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