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Halloween Jack posted:Also, the Kree later took Midnight, transformed him from an African ninja to an African cyborg space ninja, glued mirrors to his hands, and sent him to fight the Silver Surfer. That didn't go very well, but at least he got to wear a fedora in space. Totally forgot about this. I thought he looked so cool at the time.
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hadji murad posted:Totally forgot about this. I thought he looked so cool at the time. 
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Is that the Midnight that partnered with Moon Knight and then became a villain who fought Spider-Man and a bunch of other heroes by himself after getting augmentations?
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Is that the Midnight that partnered with Moon Knight and then became a villain who fought Spider-Man and a bunch of other heroes by himself after getting augmentations? Different guy. Being rebuilt by the Secret Empire and not the Kree Empire, the Moon Knight fella had a comparatively boring existence compared to this guy. I guess that you really shouldn't call yourself Midnight if you're a Marvel character unless you want to get rebuilt by an evil empire.
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https://twitter.com/anthonypants/status/980529325861519361
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What's up with this pelican in All New Wolverine? Also, anyone know what a #25 with chicken is?
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Beachcomber posted:Also, anyone know what a #25 with chicken is? I have no explanation for the pelican.
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Beachcomber posted:What's up with this pelican in All New Wolverine? Home is where your pelican statue is.
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Apr 2, 2018 12:36
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The Pelican’s name is Penagos.
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DivineCoffeeBinge posted:IIRC that's the one where Hawkeye saves the day with an old carny trick? Tom DeFalco stole that ending from an earlier Grandmaster story in Giant-Size Defenders #3. There, Daredevil saves the day by challenging Grandmaster to a double or nothing bet based on a coin toss, and then rigs the coin toss by using his super-senses to feel how he has to flip the coin to produce the result that he needs. And then the Grandmaster just decides to honor the bet and fucks off instead of conquering Earth. Also, there's an art mistake that makes it look like Daredevil announces the result of the coin toss wrong, making the ending even more dumb than it already is. (The Grandmaster honoring the bet he makes with Daredevil could arguably be in character for him, except the only reason that the bet happens at all is that Grandmaster betrays an agreement he makes with the Defenders not to try to conquer Earth when they sign on to play in his game to begin with.)    As much as I like Steve Gerber's Defenders run, that's probably the worst Defenders story he ever wrote. DeFalco's ending makes much more sense. I really liked those Avengers annuals too.
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Edge & Christian posted:I wrote about that two-parter, it was my first favorite comic! The best/dumbest part about it is when the Avengers all drop dead in the middle of a softball game and somehow the West Coast Avengers are convinced by the Collector to drink poison so they can save their friends from Death. And the Collector was like "hey Firebird you drank the poison and aren't dead? Guess you are double super immortal now. Good luck squaring that with the tenants of your Catholic faith."
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The Question IRL posted:the tenants of your Catholic faith For all of us who are gathered here in faith, that we may be together with all of our loved ones again in Renter's Paradise, we pray to the landlord. (Landlord, hear our prayer).
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The Question IRL posted:And the Collector was like "hey Firebird you drank the poison and aren't dead? Guess you are double super immortal now. So I guess Englehart was doing some more Mantis-style pet character mystery there. Did it ever pay off? I've never read his whole run on West Coast Avengers.
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Rhyno posted:I will never tire of seeing people's first exposure to the weirdness that is Dave Simm. From a while back but I'm a bad comic book reader and I'd not heard of Dave Sim. Taking a look at his wiki entry and these two sentences quote:Sim's beliefs are based on the premise that conflicts in scripture are the result of an ongoing argument between the true male God and Yoowhoo, a false female God.[43] quote:Sim's letter ended with an ultimatum, requesting that those who wished to receive his return correspondence reply with a letter or online posting and the statement, "I do not believe Dave Sim is a misogynist."  Never before have two sentences told me so much about a person.
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bessantj posted:From a while back but I'm a bad comic book reader and I'd not heard of Dave Sim. Taking a look at his wiki entry and these two sentences He's a crazy man now, but he created some genuinely high-quality stuff before his mind melted completely. Like Frank Miller. 
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prefect posted:He's a crazy man now, but he created some genuinely high-quality stuff before his mind melted completely. Like Frank Miller. It is a problem when bad people create really good stuff.
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bessantj posted:It is a problem when bad people create really good stuff. Nah, everybody is bad in one way or another. Or many. You can't demand perfection from everyone, or else you'll never be able to enjoy anything. The best you can do is be aware of the badness, and not pretend that it doesn't exist.
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It's not really that good, you're not missing out if you just don't read the crazy man's stuff.
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prefect posted:Nah, everybody is bad in one way or another. Or many. You can't demand perfection from everyone, or else you'll never be able to enjoy anything. The best you can do is be aware of the badness, and not pretend that it doesn't exist. When I say bad I'm thinking more sexual abuser or rancid racist rather than maybe tweeted that "all lives matter" Question: Including "fake deaths" which X-Man has died the most? bessantj fucked around with this message at 22:25 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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Apr 8, 2018 22:18
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Servoret posted:Tom DeFalco stole that ending from an earlier Grandmaster story in Giant-Size Defenders #3. There, Daredevil saves the day by challenging Grandmaster to a double or nothing bet based on a coin toss, and then rigs the coin toss by using his super-senses to feel how he has to flip the coin to produce the result that he needs. And then the Grandmaster just decides to honor the bet and fucks off instead of conquering Earth. Also, there's an art mistake that makes it look like Daredevil announces the result of the coin toss wrong, making the ending even more dumb than it already is. frodnonnag fucked around with this message at 22:54 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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bessantj posted:When I say bad I'm thinking more sexual abuser or rancid racist rather than maybe tweeted that "all lives matter" I imagine Wolverine has got to be up there if we're counting like, "appears dead for two pages but actually just fell off a cliff". Oh, and does Xavier count? Because he's a contender too.
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Android Blues posted:I imagine Wolverine has got to be up there if we're counting like, "appears dead for two pages but actually just fell off a cliff". Oh, and does Xavier count? Because he's a contender too. It's almost certainly Xavier if we count fake-outs, I think he does it twice in God Loves, Man Kills alone. Wolverine would be tricky to figure out what counts, because there's times bad guys think they killed him, but the reader knows full well he's still alive, even beyond the fact that we're halfway through a book with his name on the cover. Air Skwirl fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Apr 8, 2018 |
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frodnonnag posted:anyone else realize that he never told him which side was heads and which was tails and probably just called whichever side it landed on heads for him to win.
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Ghostlight posted:He says it in the fourth panel of the second page in the dialogue box that is so closely crammed in with a thought balloon that it's easy to mistake it as more thinking. yeah, sometimes older comics are insane at trying to follow just from text density.
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Skwirl posted:It's almost certainly Xavier if we count fake-outs, I think he does it twice in God Loves, Man Kills alone. I feel like a good rule of thumb might be if the character's friends also think they're dead - or, if the book itself plays it straight like, "I can't believe Wolverine is dead! He was so brave!".
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Skwirl posted:Wolverine would be tricky to figure out what counts, because there's times bad guys think they killed him, but the reader knows full well he's still alive, even beyond the fact that we're halfway through a book with his name on the cover. "The villain thinks you're dead" should never count. 
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Apr 8, 2018 23:04
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prefect posted:"The villain thinks you're dead" should never count. There's a Hulk annual from the 70's that has become kind of funny in retrospect. The Hulk is fighting a bunch of monsters from the Atlas/MC days of the company (including a few that would be regular foes for him), and they all introduce themselves in giant splash panels with "I AM XEMU!" "I AM GLOB!" "I AM WHATEVER!" except for the thing from planet X which gets a monologue instead of saying "I AM GROOT!"
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Grout didn't become catchphrase only until a few years ago. He's very chatty in Annihilation Conquest.
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Giffen wrote Groot with regular speech but Abnett and Lanning eventually turned it into the "I AM GROOT" style somewhere during their Guardians run complete with an explanation from Maximus about how that was just how their species talked.
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Android Blues posted:I feel like a good rule of thumb might be if the character's friends also think they're dead - or, if the book itself plays it straight like, "I can't believe Wolverine is dead! He was so brave!". prefect posted:"The villain thinks you're dead" should never count. If it did there would be hundreds of listing for just about any character. I was reading the Bane arc for the first time a bit back and when Bruce finally returns to action to take down his replacement the Batmobile gets blown up and everyone treats it like he's dead for a page or two. It was absurd.
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X-O posted:Giffen wrote Groot with regular speech but Abnett and Lanning eventually turned it into the "I AM GROOT" style somewhere during their Guardians run complete with an explanation from Maximus about how that was just how their species talked. Yeah, after he was blown up and came back only saying "I am Groot" and then somehow that became the way it always was even though it wasn't even that way in recent continuity. It's just amusing that the other monsters get "I AM" and Groot somehow walks around that phrasing.
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Aphrodite posted:It's not really that good, you're not missing out if you just don't read the crazy man's stuff. It’s true. With so much creator-owned work out there these days, Elfquest and Cerebus don’t seem all that special. They got huge attention back in the day because that was kind of all there was for a while between work-for-hire and undergrounds as far as domestic North American comic books were concerned. Dave Sim’s technique got better as he went along, but I think there’s a lot of self-indulgent stuff in Cerebus that doesn’t work well. He sort of never escaped his own head even besides the obvious lunacy. He never had an editor or a real collaborator outside of his background assistant and he always had a monthly quota of pages to fill, so he had the narrative disadvantages of both underground and work-for-hire comics in a way. (Which probably doesn’t make him remotely unique in a world full of webcomics that disappear up their own rear end.) Cerebus isn’t exactly Fun Home or Can’t We Talk About Something More Pleasant, however much Sim likes to BS about it being a novel. But why would he ever leave his cave to learn that when thanks to his genius he already knows all there is to know about the world and the Feminist-Homosexualist conspiracy behind everything? (His homegrown term for his MRA bullshit IIRC.)
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I haven't ever gotten into Cerebus but I feel like Usagi Yojimbo, of which I have read a decent amount, is probably better anyway.
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Wheat Loaf posted:I haven't ever gotten into Cerebus but I feel like Usagi Yojimbo, of which I have read a decent amount, is probably better anyway. There was that crossover episode of the Ninja Turtles cartoon were Usagi Yojimbo kept referring to women as The Void.
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Skwirl posted:There was that crossover episode of the Ninja Turtles cartoon were Usagi Yojimbo kept referring to women as The Void. Wow they really hate Venus
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Cerebus actually met the ninja turtles in issue 8 of their book. The original run of TMNT was rife (or plagued, depending on your perspective) with crossovers, each weirder than the last.
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Lurdiak posted:Cerebus actually met the ninja turtles in issue 8 of their book. The original run of TMNT was rife (or plagued, depending on your perspective) with crossovers, each weirder than the last. 
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One weird thing about Cerebus is all the semi-obscure 90's comics references. Like, you need to be really aware of Marvel and Spawn and Sandman etc to get a lot of the jokes. Makes it a little hard for the indie comic book store audience that would otherwise get a kick out of it. For all the talk of it being a grand novel, it never loses the parody aspect until the very end.
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I've only read plot summaries of Cerebus, and it's really hard for me to take this grand sociopolitical fantasy epic seriously when it's not only littered with parodic characters, they're a meaningful part of the plot. Cerebus abused his papacy to divorce himself from...a parody of Red Sonja. Then he meets Adam Weisshaupt and Oscar Wilde in this, uh, late medieval world?
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It just sounds like every lovely "gamer jokes" or "half rear end LOTR parody" webcomic that goes on for years and eventually tries to become serious drama. Yes, I'm comparing Cerberus to loss.jpg. gently caress Dave Sim.
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