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ryonguy posted:See, I think it's more the style of animation at the time compared to modern animation because I watched some Real Ghostbusters a few years ago and it just seemed like every bit of dialog was drawn out and staid, with a lot of dead time with the characters not saying anything. Now everything is rapid fire verbal gags and there's always someone talking. A lot of it might be the reason that even the more plot-heavy cartoons nowadays tend to be 11 minute episodes, rather than the 22 minute episodes that were standard since the 80s. There's still 22 minute shows, but they tend to be rarer and high-budget ones. (the new DuckTales, I think?) Animation is expensive, it turns out. See also anime, practically a medium built out of cost-saving measures disguised with elaborate character designs and the occasional expensive action sequence.
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That's entirely possible. I had a similar reaction when I watched an episode of Doug maybe two years ago. I remember thinking as a kid that it wasn't as sassy and quick as, say, Recess or Hey Arnold, but watching it again as an adult really made the difference apparent. Ghost Leviathan posted:A lot of it might be the reason that even the more plot-heavy cartoons nowadays tend to be 11 minute episodes, rather than the 22 minute episodes that were standard since the 80s. There's still 22 minute shows, but they tend to be rarer and high-budget ones. (the new DuckTales, I think?)
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Okay fine. Salvador, Videodrome, Diggstown, Hercules....and maybe that time he played Roy Cohn, but nothing else. poo poo, he was in Cat's Eye too? gently caress, why does he have to be such a poo poo person?Straight White Shark posted:EDIT: while hitting up google for some numbers I learned that the new Tick series cost $5 million a half hour, which is profoundly sad for how cheap it looks. That makes absolutely no sense. Jeff Bezos is laundering money through Amazon Video.
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I think back in the 80s, the 22 minute toy commercial was standard. Around the 90s, the two shorts format became more popular, I think Nicktoons used it most of all.
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I've noticed a lot of the stuff my kids watch is heavily recycled, PJ Masks in particular seems like 50% of every episode is the same canned animations.
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Krispy Wafer posted:Okay fine. Salvador, Videodrome, Diggstown, Hercules....and maybe that time he played Roy Cohn, but nothing else. poo poo, he was in Cat's Eye too? gently caress, why does he have to be such a poo poo person? Seriously, he's a poo poo person that is a far better film presence than he deserves to be.
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Choco1980 posted:Seriously, he's a poo poo person that is a far better film presence than he deserves to be. I'm still broken hearted about finding out what an rear end in a top hat he really is.
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But he plays that type so well. Who else would've been better than him in Any Given Sunday, or Casino? The guy just oozes sleaze.
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ryonguy posted:How much of that is Hollywood accounting to screw anybody who isn't a producer out of revenue? With streaming sites like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc., when I hear about the huge costs of their original programming, I wonder if some of that is tied into projected future royalties or something to that effect. Unlike TV syndication or video sales, as the amount of content increases, I don't know how these services will A) keep the content up and B) figure out how much they have to pay writers, directors, actors, etc. in royalties as the years go by. Unlike shows that start out on TV or shows that have been made for TV and merely licensed to a streaming service on a contractual basis with likely a lot of plans in place in place to determine how much a studio or production company makes off of every airing/licensing, I don't know how/if ORIGINAL streaming programming figures in what the royalties on continued future streamings will be. By a similar comparison, I think someone who did/does streaming on Youtube said something like none of the content they produce actually nets them anything from view/ad revenue because they aren't making enough views per video per month to kick it into actually qualifying. edit: Accordion Man posted:A Doom Patrol movie could be amazing, but I know DC and Warner would never do it justice. I've said before that DP is one of those IPs that might ahve worked well. Not even a lot of comic fans know it too well (God knows I'm not) and it's had different iterations with different tones to it, but I think those qualities could work in its favor with having more freedom to adapt the source without alienating huge fanbases. JediTalentAgent has a new favorite as of 07:37 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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Leavemywife posted:I'm still broken hearted about finding out what an rear end in a top hat he really is. Unfortunately, to a teenager in the 80’s he was cool as poo poo in Best Seller and Cop. I also liked Mickey Rourke too, who also had rear end in a top hat tendencies (but probably less lovely politics).
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Aside from the crap video quality, the only thing that dates the early Curb Your Enthusiasm is the episode where Larry and Jeff try to order the Girls Gone Wild VHS tape.
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fatherboxx posted:Aside from the crap video quality, the only thing that dates the early Curb Your Enthusiasm is the episode where Larry and Jeff try to order the Girls Gone Wild VHS tape. And, you know, Jeff doing the casting couch thing constantly.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Anyone remember Thundarr the Barbarian? Wasn't it a pretty blatant Star Wars rip off? Like down to a lightsaber, a chewbacca clone, etc? Or am I thinking of a different show?
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LIVE AMMO ROLEPLAY posted:And, you know, Jeff doing the casting couch thing constantly. How is that dated? I guarantee it's still going on.
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BiggerBoat posted:Wasn't it a pretty blatant Star Wars rip off? Like down to a lightsaber, a chewbacca clone, etc? Or am I thinking of a different show?  ...yeah pretty much
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Then again, from about 1978-1986, there were approximately 8,000 blatant Star Wars rip offs made.
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JediTalentAgent posted:With streaming sites like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon, etc., when I hear about the huge costs of their original programming, I wonder if some of that is tied into projected future royalties or something to that effect. Hollywood accounting means that the "huge costs" of production allows you to not pay people because royalties only kick in after "costs" have been covered, which is why I'm suspicious of those figures. For example, the author of the novel Forest Gump had to sue to get royalties because according to the studio the film lost money.
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New Line also claims the Lord of the Rings trilogy didn't make money so that they didn't have to pay bonuses to Peter Jackson.
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Did you know that Return of the Jedi was a total flop? Which explains why they stopped making Star Wars movies.
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I recall hearing sour grapes from the music industry in the 1990's about one hit wonders because apparently the expense of printing 10 cent pieces of plastic that are sold for $15 doesn't recoup the costs of paying a new artist virtually nothing. Because you see...reasons. If only all those exec's knew what was in store for them 10 years later, they would have paid those artists even less. Inspector Gesicht posted:Did you know that Return of the Jedi was a total flop? Which explains why they stopped making Star Wars movies. I hear that's what happened with Titanic too. Krispy Wafer has a new favorite as of 15:49 on Apr 9, 2018 |
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I'm suddenly reminded of how the last CGI ninja turtles show had parodies of cheap 70s and 80s cartoon the characters watched, including Star Trek TAS, Thundarr and a hack dub of Voltron. (Casey Jones prefers sub's)
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There was another old (probably HannahBarbara) show that had a sword that was just a hilt with crossed snakes on both ends, and the snakes would move and make a guard and a blade would come out on one side or both sides. I can't remember the name of it but I remember thinking it was cool as poo poo when I was like 9. Anyway, it was basically Darth Maul's lightsaber decades earlier, so I guess Star Wars borrows back.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I recall hearing sour grapes from the music industry in the 1990's about one hit wonders because apparently the expense of printing 10 cent pieces of plastic that are sold for $15 doesn't recoup the costs of paying a new artist virtually nothing. Because you see...reasons. Well, they did cancel Titanic 2
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The Bloop posted:There was another old (probably HannahBarbara) show that had a sword that was just a hilt with crossed snakes on both ends, and the snakes would move and make a guard and a blade would come out on one side or both sides. I can't remember the name of it but I remember thinking it was cool as poo poo when I was like 9. Anyway, it was basically Darth Maul's lightsaber decades earlier, so I guess Star Wars borrows back. Galtar and the Golden Lance maybe?
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Choco1980 posted:Galtar and the Golden Lance maybe? I used to watch that, but I always forget its name and end up confusing it with Thundarr, which I never watched, having been just a few years before my time.
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Choco1980 posted:Galtar and the Golden Lance maybe? Hmmm must be. Thanks! Funny how 30some years later my memory must be mixing it with something else. The snakes thing might be from Conan the Adventurer...
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Solice Kirsk posted:How is that dated? I guarantee it's still going on. Yes, but some might consider it in bad taste to use it as a plot/comedy device considering we're now finding out that the process is so much more rampant and gross than we ever realized, especially since Jeff is a protagonist on the show. Even with a lot of people on CYE being awful, it might feel like crossing a line.
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mostlygray posted:ThunderCats I mean, I named my cat Panthro. Thundercats & Voltron were my whole world when they aired on Toonami in the mid-'90s. I have not seen an episode since 1996 and I don't want to ruin it for myself by rewatching anything now. Admittedly though, Snarf annoyed me even when I was a little kid. sweeperbravo posted:This happened to me with the animated Beetlejuice series. I used to come home from Kindergarten and after Gargoyles wrapped up, Beetlejuice would come on. I loving loved it. I was in love with Beetlejuice, I wanted to be Beetlejuice and/or Lydia at any given time. I guess the show lineup changed because at some point I just must have abruptly stopped watching it. gently caress, I looooooved the Beetlejuice cartoon, and also the Little Shop Of Horrors cartoon. I don't even know how I remember them, since according to Wikipedia they both went off the air when I was 4 years old. Again, I haven't seen either of them since, and I don't even want to know.
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YeahTubaMike posted:gently caress, I looooooved the Beetlejuice cartoon, and also the Little Shop Of Horrors cartoon. I don't even know how I remember them, since according to Wikipedia they both went off the air when I was 4 years old. Again, I haven't seen either of them since, and I don't even want to know. I think Cartoon Network used to show Beetlejuice reruns at some point. I don't remember Little Shop having a cartoon, but this made me remember that Rick Moranis had a cartoon where he was a teacher at some kind of monster high school, in I wanna say 1991
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We were supposed to get an animated Conan movie (an adaptation of the story "Red Nails") with Ron Perlman voicing Conan
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Davros1 posted:We were supposed to get an animated Conan movie (an adaptation of the story "Red Nails") with Ron Perlman voicing Conan I don't think any animated Conan adaptation can surpass this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HT3cl4GJIDs
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GrandpaPants posted:I don't think any animated Conan adaptation can surpass this: "You are overly large, and stupid looking!"
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Iron Crowned posted:I think Cartoon Network used to show Beetlejuice reruns at some point. I don't remember Little Shop having a cartoon, but this made me remember that Rick Moranis had a cartoon where he was a teacher at some kind of monster high school, in I wanna say 1991 Close. 1990's Gravedale High. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGhZegXEj3U
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El Gallinero Gros posted:Yes, but some might consider it in bad taste to use it as a plot/comedy device considering we're now finding out that the process is so much more rampant and gross than we ever realized, especially since Jeff is a protagonist on the show. Even with a lot of people on CYE being awful, it might feel like crossing a line. Yeah it’s not played in a positive light or anything but Jeff doesn’t see much backlash, aside from his wife.
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A Christmas Story is a garbage film only liked by trash people but the part where the kid blames his friend for saying a cuss word and then you hear the kids mom beating the everloving poo poo out of the kid over the phone is bad. I disliked it when I was young and I actively hate the scene now.
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