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abigserve posted:If you seriously think apu is an example of a racist stereotype I don't even know what to say Are you Indian? Indian people have been saying Apu is some racist poo poo for the entire run of the show. They get to decide, not you. Non Indian opinion on the only recurring Indian character on TV for decades does not matter. How can you possibly think otherwise? If you can't understand why a white actor doing an accent everyone involved knew was offensive, it's still offensive no matter what you think.
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Scudworth posted:Are you Indian? Indian people have been saying Apu is some racist poo poo for the entire run of the show. Just because someone isn't the correct ethnicity doesn't mean they can't have am opinion on an issue just because it's an opinion you don't agree with. What about the Indian guy who doesn't care about apu or think he's offensive. How valid is that guy's opinion?
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Apr 10, 2018 10:12
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What does Apu's accent sound like to a real Indian? I'm Scottish and Groundskeeper Willie is just so bizarre it's like Dan Castellaneta is working off a vague description of a Scottish accent.
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Apr 10, 2018 10:36
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If doing an accent can be considered racist now I guess yeah then its racist as hell
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abigserve posted:If doing an accent can be considered racist now I guess yeah then its racist as hell If only they had an Indian guy doing the voice of apu. Similarly it is also offensive that the male character Bart is voiced by a woman!!!!
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Apr 10, 2018 11:10
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*Watching minstrel show* Hm, I sure don't have a problem with this, so I don't see how anyone else could. White people are portrayed as lovable goofs all the time, and you don't hear us complaining!
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Miss posted:pull up This thread is awful now, much like the Simpsons
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Apr 10, 2018 11:39
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edit; gently caress it back to to more interesting and less political convo
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For me it's hard to say what the lowest point is. I know I haven't downloaded any episodes in almost 4 years, I haven't streamed an episode in about 2 years now, but I know when I stopped losing interest in the show after Ned married Mrs Krabapple (I honestly have no idea how to spell the real version and don't want to start getting pushed ads based off a Simpsons google search) then the awkward silent use of her character when the voice talent died. After that I started just getting annoyed at how often they redo established flash backs like Homer and Marge early years kinda episodes. It seems to just flip flop on if there is any real continuity to the show. It's as bad as jumping into 90s Marvel comics.
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Phlegmish posted:This thread is awful now, much like the Simpsons The Lowest point of the "what was the lowest point of the simpsons" thread
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I think when Homer got on Toadfish's bad side was the lowest point of the Simpsons.
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God Of Paradise posted:I think when Homer got on Toadfish's bad side was the lowest point of the Simpsons. Lowest point of Neighbours was when Toadfish invented a popular cocktail he named the Flaming Toad
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bitterandtwisted posted:What does Apu's accent sound like to a real Indian? Used to have a Indian housemate from West Bengal, he seemed to think that Hank Azaria got the accent perfectly, no idea if he saw Apu as problematic or anything, probably barely had even seen the Simpsons considering how unfamiliar he was with a lot of famous western figures Elvis Presly, Three Stooges, etc.
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:*Watching minstrel show* The reason we white people don't see Apu as a racist caricature (which he definitely is) is because he's been around since 1990, and racist caricatures were commonplace in TV back then. I was 9 years old then and I didn't know any better, and he was just there as I grew up, so I'll even admit that I'm blind to the racism on the surface. The problem is that I have to turn my brain back on, and at 37, I can totally see that everything about Apu is a racist caricature, perhaps the only thing worse would be if he owned the seediest motel in Springfield instead of the Quik-E Mart.
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One of the things about offensive comedy is people will forgive a lot if its actually funny. Even people who are the offended audience. Apu was always offensive but at one point he at least took part in funny episodes. It's somehow worse when it's lovely.
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Apr 10, 2018 13:16
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Ah well, that was a real nice
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Scudworth posted:Are you Indian? Indian people have been saying Apu is some racist poo poo for the entire run of the show. i read this how i imagine a frumpy matron telling someone off for blasphemy would've sounded a hundred years ago and it all fits together
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Apr 10, 2018 13:21
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NiceGuy posted:Ah well, that was a real nice I'm not defending it, shithead.
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abigserve posted:edit; gently caress it back to to more interesting and less political convo Literally the definition of privilege right here to be able to say this
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Oh hey, I saw part of this episode when it aired! quote:Homer meets Neil deGrasse Tyson, Ken Jennings, Suze Orman, and Robert McKee, and sees them being introduced to a group of young female "students" who are actually life-like humanoid robots that will all get into Yale and earn "financial aid" that gets funneled directly to Bourbon. This doesn't include that Homer is literally taken to Bourbon's secret island home, all of the guest stars had no more than two lines, and this entire quoted section took place in the last 4 minutes of the episode.
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https://twitter.com/LetItMelo/status/983457224617021441
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its cool the way they animated marges "nod" by moving her head up and down by exactly ONE pixel. great stuff
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abigserve posted:If you seriously think apu is an example of a racist stereotype I don't even know what to say Apu plays to a bunch of stereotypes about Indian people in the west almost perfectly up to and including: -Convenience store clerk, an occupation to which his entire person revolves around(remember Homer and Apu?). -Works his rear end off to an absurdly comical degree and doesn't perceive anything unusual about it. -Has a gigantic family. -Has a funny accent. -Has a bunch of weird foreign customs that are usually not an actual thing that Indian people do (ie his 'apology' to Homer after he's kicked out of the Kwik-e-mart). In addition to all that the fact that he's voiced by a white guy doing a stereotypical impression of a racial minority which is literally never a good look. South Asian people, who I think have a right to be concerned about this, have voiced their concern about the character a long time before now, and he's kind of obviously reinforced or added to the kind of nonsense they often get from other people, especially his 'Thank you come again' catchphrase. He is one of the more rounded characters in the show and has lots of positive attributes, like his vegetarianism and intelligence, but it doesn't really cancel out the issues that people raise about the character.
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abigserve posted:If doing an accent can be considered racist now I guess yeah then its racist as hell doing an accent could always be considered racist.
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abigserve posted:If you seriously think apu is an example of a racist stereotype I don't even know what to say I, also, don't know what to say when other people are correct and I'm acting like a flaming dipshit.
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ExplodingSims posted:I think a lot of it comes from the general Family Guy-ization of Fox as well. The Simpsons were generally pretty progressive as a whole, but the show is certainly not without its flaws, but ever since Family Guy I don't think Family Guy had any real influence either way on the show's quality. Fox being crude and low-brow was a running joke in the early seasons. 
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I haven't met anyone that still watches the simpsons but maybe that's just my bubble. How is it still alive?
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Elderbean posted:I haven't met anyone that still watches the simpsons but maybe that's just my bubble. How is it still alive? https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3836088
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I hope the internet never finds out about this guy
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Teriyaki Hairpiece posted:That loving clip has broken me That's what got me the most about the clip. Who the gently caress was applauding Apu of all characters?
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steinrokkan posted:I hope the internet never finds out about this guy I don't get it, is he offensive to Dutch people
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between this and the "liberal snowflakes" college visit, this show is loving dead. it's not funny, not clever, and not even animated well. the show is the krusty burglar, homer is time, and we are all the little kid screaming that it's already dead
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Don't cry for The Simpsons, they're already dead.
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abigserve posted:If doing an accent can be considered racist now I guess yeah then its racist as hell In general, people don't like voice actors to voice different races now, whether they do an accent or not. Bojack Horseman got a lot of poo poo for casting Alison Brie as a Vietnamese woman, and she's just doing her own voice. Why is it whenever I see a new Simpsons, the cast sound like they're being held hostage in a basement, reading lines at gunpoint? You're getting half a mil an episode you dicks, put some effort into it.
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Neurosis posted:i read this how i imagine a frumpy matron telling someone off for blasphemy would've sounded a hundred years ago and it all fits together You might want to consider why it's always an unattractive woman in these fantasies of yours...
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TVIV isn't a CD subforum, is it?
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SEX BURRITO posted:Why is it whenever I see a new Simpsons, the cast sound like they're being held hostage in a basement, reading lines at gunpoint? You're getting half a mil an episode you dicks, put some effort into it.
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Strudel Man posted:If you don't like your job, you don't quit. You just go in every day and do it really half-assed. That's the American way. 
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